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Au Revoir, Jason Pridie (AKA Welcome Back, Jacque Jones)

Well how about that?

In a move that comes as somewhat of a surprise, the Minnesota Twins placed Jason Pridie on waivers in order to make room on the 40-man roster for Orlando Hudson.  Once again, the 40-man roster is full.  For Pridie fans, don't worry too much as he's already found a home with the New York Mets.  He appeared in ten games with the Twins in 2008 and one game in 2009, amassing a .000/.200/.000 line in just four at-bats.

The bigger news this afternoon is that the Twins have brought back one of the original members of The Soul Patrol:  Jacque Jones.

Jones will be 35 in 2010, and hasn't played in the majors since his paltry .246 OPS between the Tigers and Marlins in 2008.  He has an invitation to spring training on a minor league deal, and it sounds like he won't have a problem waiting in the wings if he doesn't make the trip north.

We all have our own memories of Jones--the bat flip after the uppercut home run swing, the air-mail throws from the corner outfield spots, the strikeouts.  His strengths seemed to be his defense in left and in center, and his ability to hit a ridiculous number of flyballs out of the park.  But that power disappeared in 2007, when he hit .285 but slugged a career-low .400.  2008 was just painful, and we probably shouldn't talk about it too much.  It just wasn't good.

But now it's all come full circle for Jacque, Minnesota's second-round draft pick in 1996.  He'll have an opportunity to play his way back to the Twins one last time, and with a history of playing all three outfield positions he might be able to find a niche.  If he doesn't make it back to the majors this will likely be the end of his comeback, but at least he'll finish where he started.

And I always thought there was something kind of poetic about that.


Jacque Jones

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Torii

might be wishing he was a Twin this year.

Jones and Hudson are two of his best friends in the majors.

by Twins4Life on Feb 9, 2010 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

I'll settle for beating the Angels in the playoffs

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That'll put us in the World Series

We might as well win it, while we’re there.

by JonathanR on Feb 9, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why not?

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow I LOVE this move

He may not make the team but Jaqcue was my second favorite twin of all time behind Torii. This excites me, I really hope he makes the team. And then at the trading deadline this year Billy can call up the Angles and somehow get Torii back here. (Hey a guy can dream cant he)

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

?

If Smith needs to bring Torii back, then something went terribly wrong with Span…

by diehardtwinsfan on Feb 9, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In that case we should probably give Matt Lawton or Shannon Stewart a call,

just to be sure we have appropriate depth. And also either Soul Patrol v.1 or v.2…

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Shannon Stewart was one of my very favorite Twins during his era.

But I am pretty happy that even if he doesn’t make it back to the majors, Jones will end with this organization. That’s just…right.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 9, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats what Im saying

Its where he belongs

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, bring on lawton...

i loved him, but wait maybe we should pay our respects to rick reed since he was more valuable at the time apparently…. ;)

by Cody_3_twins on Feb 9, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Denard Span is the newer, better Shannon Stewart

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by AdamOnFirst on Feb 9, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you could always move

Span to RF and Cuddy to left….. You know what, I just wanna see Torii back in Red and Blue ok. Is that to much to ask. I want him to retire as a Twin :)

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he could do that.

He’d probably like to, he’s said as much.

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya, But I am probably

biased because Torii was and will always be my favorite Twin. The day he signed with the Angels was horrible, I know it wasnt really our fault but I always feel resentment towards the Twins for not re signing him. Yea I know they really didnt have a choice.

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Him and Brad Radke.

Those were my favorites. It was a hard day when Torii left.

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yea I forgot about Brad

He was a great man. Any chance he comes back as pitching coach after Rick steps down?

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And Luis Rivas while we're at it :)

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Denny Hocking anybody?

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt LeCroy.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Ryan!!!!

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I call your Tony Fiore

and raise you a Dustan Mohr.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 9, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Jackson

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Feb 10, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Shane Mack!

"I was told I would never make it because I'm too short. Well, I'm still too short. It doesn't matter what your height is, it's what's in your heart." Kirby Puckett

by I saw Rod Carew Play In Person! on Feb 10, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Tony Batista!

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett

by 33MorneauMVP on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

What about Mickey Hatcher!

"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

by cryhavoc on Feb 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Mark my words

Corey Koskie is next!!!!

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by 33MorneauMVP on Feb 10, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Too good!

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Feb 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dustan Mohr.......

Mike Restivich, Dougie, Luis already somewhere else!

Ryan Radmanovch!!!

Visit www.TwinsCards.com and check out "rosters" to see my collection!

by rosterman on Feb 10, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

my cousin dated Restivich (sp?) for bout a month, found out he was getting traded or waived.. i cant remember.. and SHE ended it…

by hickenizgriz on Feb 10, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Restovich....

…and then he ended up in Pittsburgh? Was this in 2005 sometime or 2004?

by Jesse on Feb 10, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

It was back when I was in 10th grade if i can remember right.

by hickenizgriz on Feb 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

2005

The year of Chris Heintz. Gardy’s second dumbest roster decision.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Second?

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 10, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bartlett/Castro

That’s gotta be first, if it was his decision.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll echo what Roger said in TonyO's fanpost,

and that is this: who would you rather have on the bench? Pridie or Jones? I’d have a tough time thinking Pridie has much of an advantage over Jones in value. Jones can (maybe shouldn’t, but can) play all three outfield positions, and he has a history of bashing RHP. Even if the power isn’t quite what it used to be, he still has a shot to improve the bench if he makes the squad.

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I expected them to sign an MFA outfielder because Pridie is pretty weak

I just thought it would be someone who played int he majors last year, like Endy Chavez or Willie Tevarez.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how much of a step he's lost

I always thought Jones was just fine in center before Torii came up. If he hasn’t lost much range, I’d be perfectly fine with him out there.

I completely agree with you on having him as a bench bat. Like someone mentioned in one of the Thome posts, all the closers in the AL Central are right handed, as are most of the closers throughout MLB.

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by BeefMaster on Feb 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Picture

In that picture above, Adam Dunn just towers over Jones. I knew he was big, but he looks like a monster in that shot!

by TheBlackFreighter on Feb 9, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I think that's Aaron Harang...

…at least that’s what the real caption said.

Either way, the dude’s a monster!

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It is Harang

But he could be on the Pitchers Mound?

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Harang is 6'7

Jones is 5’10

I don’t think he needs a mound… :P

by Twins4Life on Feb 9, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh hahaha never mind then

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid question

Why are there 41 players (21 pitchers, 20 position players) listed on the roster on the front page?
I see that Pridie has been removed, but there’s still 41.
Am I missing something?

by EmeraldTwinkie on Feb 9, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Province is on there for some reason.

Unfortunately it’s an automated widget…which means I can’t change it. I’m assuming it will be updated pretty quickly.

by Jesse on Feb 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Province

According to the Twins website, Chris Province isn’t on the 40-man. But he shows on the page here.

by Twins4Life on Feb 9, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Other widgets

When do we get the updated 50 prospects on the sidebar?

by DJL44 on Feb 9, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

...

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"All morons hate it when you call them a moron." -Holden Caufield

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

A man of many words, I see.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 9, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Speechless

“Everyday Eddie” Guardado is next.

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 9, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And bring back

Doug Menti however the hell you spell his last name back!

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This guy?

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Feb 9, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

That’s the man!

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

pfft

Spelling Mientkiewicz is easy. Well, maybe that has something to do with my dumb superstition of trying to spell out his name between the time the pitcher started his wind up and the swing (I hated when the pitch came from the stretch). It was good luck I swear!. OK, I’m a loser.

by archie2227 on Feb 9, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha sweet ritaul!

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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

...Wow.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I can still remember

I can still remember how to spell Mientkiewicz because of one of the original “Minnesota Twins: Get to know em’” commercials from 2001, still my favorite Twins commercial series of all time. They were all hilarious.

Mientkiewicz’s was a schoolhouse rock parody. The funny announcer guy mentioned some stuff, including his ability to “crush the ball like a flabby grape” and that his “13 letter long last name was long hard to spell, educational program SchoolHouse Rocks! wrote a song about it.”

Doug mientkiewicz,
His size and speed are due to genetics
He’s a tribute to the joy of phonetics
Say M-I-E-N-T-K-I-E-W-I-C-Z
I know it sounds crazy, but that’s how you spell Mientkiewicz

WHen Doug’s on first you’ve got his name,
won’t you come on out and see a game?
And cheer for Doug Mientkiewicz

Yeah, wow. Amazing the random stuff people remember, isn’t it? Anyways, I think I’ll be able to spell Dougie’s name for my entire life.

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by AdamOnFirst on Feb 10, 2010 4:37 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

This is my favorite line:

“For Pridie fans, don’t worry too much as he’s already found a home with the New York Mets.”

I like to think some diehard Pridie fans’ first concern was where Pridie would land, rather than how the Twins and Jones would fare :)

by dctwin on Feb 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

Ha ha

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by BeefMaster on Feb 9, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Johan

He signed with the Mets to get away from those kinds of signings.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Over/under on plate appearance

I’ll go with 45 plate appearances. He hasn’t been worth a darn since 2007. My guess is he’s done and won’t contribute. They must have a lot of faith in Ben Revere.

by DJL44 on Feb 9, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Who plays CF when Span goes down?

That’s the real question. And, do we have some extra speed defense to replace a Kubel or Cuddyer or Delmon late in the game?

It sounds like Gardy is hoping that either Punot or Tolbert will be serviceable. But, given everything else they have done this winter, adding a quality, high defense, speed guy — who can also pinch run and steal a base, would seem highly desirable,

They’ll probably wait until late in ST and try to gobble up a late cut from another team. They are low on the list to be making waiver claims though.

by Old Twins Cap on Feb 9, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Jones

I would hope Jones’s roster spot being contingent on him still beign able to play a serviceable center field.

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"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Feb 9, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I’m happy to give Jacque Jones a shot as a MFA this year, but considering he sat out the entire 2009 season, and played only 42 games in 2008, I expect very little from Jones. But signing him is a low risk proposition. And he’s rated above average in UZR in CF his entire career.

But at this point, I don’t like us dropping Pridie instead of Hughes or Butera. At least Pridie gives us plus defense in CF replacing Delmon, Kubel, etc late in the game. Maybe Jones gives us that as well, but I’m not counting on it.

Hopefully we’re working on a trade of Casilla or Tolbert for a backup outfielder right now. Otherwise, we’re going to end up losing one of them come next season. Maybe not the end of the world, but I’d rather get something in return.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 9, 2010 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

Willy Taveras

At this point, I’d strongly consider signing Willy Taveras as the 5th outfielder. Great baserunner, good defense in CF, at least a serviceable backup if Span were to go down. He’s probably holding out for a major league contract, but I’d even consider that. If you think about it, signing Taveras we’d be at the same point we were after signing Hudson. Drop Casilla or Butera at that point. And Taveras is an upgrade over Pridie. If you sign him to a MFA deal, you delay the 40 man roster decision until he makes the team out of spring training.

Endy Chavez would also be an option, but he’s going to be injured at the start of the season. Will he come back healthy?

by Adam Peterson on Feb 9, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Taveras or Chavez should be picked up. The advantage to Chavez is that he’ll be a MFA no matter what at this point.

by bbeeck on Feb 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Except...

Crasnick says: “Astros GM Ed Wade said the team has interest in bringing Willy Taveras to camp on a minor league deal if he clears waivers.”

by bbeeck on Feb 9, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Taveras vs Gomez vs Chavez

Gomez was an offensive sinkhole, but was used as a defensive replacement when we had the lead. Either Taveras or Chavez could fill that role nearly as well as Gomez, using Thome to ph vs RHP for DY, leaving the Span-Taveras better defensive alignment.

Tell me that Gomez and Punto doesn’t pale in comparison to Taveras and Hardy.

by AM. on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly

Just saw today on MLBTR though that 5 teams are in on Chavez, and the Twins are not one of them. Also, the Astros want Taveras.

by bbeeck on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but the disadvantage is Chavez probably will not be ready

to start the season. I’d be happy with either one. Not sure what we’ll do otherwise though.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd much rather have Tevaras, but he'll get better offers than the Twins can do at this point

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by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think you’re right there. I wonder what we’ll do about the backup CF situation? Another shoe is going to drop…

by Adam Peterson on Feb 9, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it'll be Jones

There’s no other option. Martin isn’t even invited to big league camp. Tosoni hasn’t played at all above AA and has less than two complete years of minor league service (subtracting DL time). Revere probably could handle the role right now, but why start the clock and set back his development? Roberts is probably OK defensively, but I can’t even look at his projections offensively. Jones isn’t the center fielder Pridie is, but he’ll be able to do some things Pridie couldn’t. Not ideal, but not bad. Maybe Tosoni will be ready by midseason. If so, Jones isn’t a bad cheap stop gap.

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by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

risky

Jones used to be able to do some things Pridie can’t, but it remains to be seen if that’s still true. It’s quite possible that right now he’s worse than Pridie at everything.

They must have just thought that Pridie would never contribute much at the major league level. In the long run, there are a bunch of guys who all project to pass him by. And in the short run, there are a lot of guys cheaply available who can do what he can. If he’s never going to be much above replacement level, they must have figured, that means he’s easily replaced. Probably true.

It surprised me though, since they went out of their way to get him two years in a row, first by rule 5, then by trade; and he was the only person lined up to be a backup CF. Oh well, replacement level is fine I guess.

I’m just not sure Jones is that guy. I wonder how his legs are. If he’s used mostly as a defensive replacement and pinch runner, speed will be very important. At least Pridie had that. But if I had to pick a pinch hitter tomorrow, it would be a tough call between those two.

by by jiminy on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Roberts

I forgot about him. You’re probably right that he’s next in line if Jones fails. No big deal if Span stays healthy. Let’s hope Span stays healthy.

by by jiminy on Feb 10, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

+1
Let’s hope Span stays healthy.

Amen to that. Who’d a thunk two years ago that would be such a key issue on a championship team?

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I should go back to the early TT days

and dig up comments about how Span is finished as a prospect. HA!

by Jesse on Feb 10, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Would have found something from me, no doubt

I was completely wrong about Span; never thought he would be able to hit in the majors. I remember arguing with Roger about him once—in a sense we were both wrong, though I was way more wrong.

Roger insisted that Span was so fast that his speed would allow him to get good enough to be a major leaguer. I was of the opinion that the minors are littered with super fast guys who never made it because they couldn’t hit.

Ultimately, though he’s fast, he isn’t THAT fast. There are faster guys. But his approach and plate discipline got so much better, and his ability to make authoritative contact along with it, are things I never thought we’d see.

by Eric in Madison on Feb 10, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I was also wrong on Span. But, occasionally, it is nice to be proven wrong!

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by 33MorneauMVP on Feb 11, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

That’s pretty much exactly where I was with Span. Didn’t see that plate discipline coming…

by Adam Peterson on Feb 13, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Gleeman?
Who’d a thunk two years ago that would be such a key issue on a championship team

by ben2 on Feb 10, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Gleeman hated Span. He ranked him as the 40th best prospect out of 40 in 2007, the year Span broke out for good. Not blaming him, mind you. I too didn’t think Span would turn his pitch recognition skills around on a dime. Who knew laser surgery could turn a career around?

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I was being sarcastic. I remember posts during spring training criticizing beat writers for even making Span a story. Span was being confident and saying he was going to show everybody that he’s the guy for the job. That generated some anti-Span stuff on the internet, but good for Span for proving everyone wrong.

by ben2 on Feb 10, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a little dense this morning

BTW, Gleeman regularly searches for his name here. I’ve probably been the most critical of him. Not that I disagree with him all that often. It’s just his rhetoric that grates on me. Span is an example of this: He often uses past successful analysis as a lead into his posts (“I told you so”). He rarely owns up to his mistakes. If he does, he buries it down in the post. If there was more balance between gloating and owning up, I think more people would recognize him for his often brilliant analysis.

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Taveras is ideal, Chavez is more realistic. Going into the season with Cuddyer/Punto as your backup CFs is scary. Especially since nobody on the 40-man can play the position at all. Even if Pridie hadn’t made the 25-man, he would have been a day away if Span had gotten hurt.

We can always get Gomez back mid-season when the Brewers get sick of him :)

by bbeeck on Feb 9, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd argue it's doubtful

If the Twins were overly concerned about having a for sure backup outfielder on the 40 man roster, there is very little chance they would have let Pridie go. They must feel confident that somebody in the system can at least field well enough to fill an emergency hole.

by archie2227 on Feb 9, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

How about the Fact

that Jones is yet another left-handed bat? We’re gonna need to get some RH power…maybe we’re waiting for Crede to agree to a MFA deal, loaded with playing incentives?

by Ben Better on Feb 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Probably not

At this point they’d lose even more flexibility if they signed him. He can’t pinch-hit because of his back, and can only play 3B. We already have Thome, who can’t play in the field.

I’d be all for it if Harris and Punto look terrible early on. Then get rid of one of them and sign Crede.

by bbeeck on Feb 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be ok with that

or letting go of tolbert aready and giving the 3B job to crede

by Ben Better on Feb 9, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

How is it that

Crede could play 3B but not pinch hit due to his back? Either way, a moot point I think. Harris is their guy at 3B, they gave him a two-year deal. I gotta think he’ll platoon w/Punto.
With the way they’ve spent I guess it wouldn’t completely surprise me if they gave a major league contract to someone but it seems a bit of a waste.
Tell me more about Revere’s readiness.

by z-squad on Feb 9, 2010 10:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gardy

Crede pinch-hit 2 times last year (I didn’t look it up, but it was less than 5). He was only on the DL 1 or 2 times and didn’t start a ton of games. Gardy didn’t want to bring him in cold and risk screwing up his back on a swing.

Then again, in Target Field they actually have a batting cage/track that DHs, PR/PHs can warm up on prior to entering the game.

I think you’re right; Harris is the starter. We all know the season will begin that way, but Harris will slump in May and go 1-12 or something and by June 1 Punto will be our everyday 3B. Then again, Punto often finishes strong when handed a spot midseason (see: 3B in 2006, 2B last year, etc.).

by bbeeck on Feb 9, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Crede....

avoided the DL because of incentives in his contract. Always thought he could be back the next day OR the next day OR maybe the next day…..

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by rosterman on Feb 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

His back was a lot worse than they led us to believe

He’d go two or three days without getting loose. Then he’d play two or three games. Lather, rinse, repeat. They just can’t afford a guy on the roster who can’t play more than half the time.

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

True

I’m pretty sure most of his incentives were based on at-bats though. Which he still didn’t get ha ha.

by bbeeck on Feb 10, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason he was always day to day rather tan DLed is the lack of other options

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Also...

He generally was back within a couple of days, up until he finally went on the DL in August. When a core guy is only going to miss two or three games, you don’t put him on the DL, because then he’s gone for at least two weeks.

Of course, with Crede, those two or three missed games were coming every week or two, which was the real problem.

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by BeefMaster on Feb 11, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuddyer is going to hit 80 HRs

and gives us all the RH power we need. By himself.

Or maybe he’ll get some help from Demon and Hardy.

by ckb on Feb 9, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

5 consecutive home runs on 16 separate occasions

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by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I suspect

that would break some kind of record.

by montanatwinsfan on Feb 10, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I never thought Pridie had a chance

to make the team, but why would you drop him and not Hughes. Hughes has 5 guys in front of him and he can’t field. I guess Martin or the other guy (Roberts) can back-up CF. Also did you see Toby added to spring training team. I’m telling you he will be at AAA as the back-up catcher, with Lehmann, Ramos starting at AA. Don’t get in Toby’s way!

by b1 on Feb 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Hughes can hit, Pridie can't

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by cmathewson on Feb 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Pridie can run and catch,

Hughes can’t. He’ll be hitting at AA or AAA. Let him go. clear the spot.

by b1 on Feb 9, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

Hughes will not make the 25 man roster this year.
Pridie was one injury away. And I have doubts that Jones can still play center

by clutterheart on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Relative depth

We are really thin at catcher. So Butera had to stay. We are thin at third base, whichis why Hughes had to stay. We are less thin in center, which is why Pridie is gone.

Also, I highly doubt the Twins are done. There are a lot of outfielders holding out for guaranteed money. There aren’t a lot of roster spots for them. Is Patterson still out there?

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot to mention

with a new 2Bman, Punto will need playing time, this will make him back-up to every postion other then catcher and 1B. He could be the new LF’er.(HAHA)

by b1 on Feb 9, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Plouffe?

I don’t think that in all the speculation of who’d lose a 40-man spot for Hudson, I saw Plouffe’s name come up at all. I expected him to be nearly expendable at this point.

by latestalias on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Plouffe

Is still a first round draft pick, still fairly young, and look for the Twins to try him at second and third at AAA Rochester. He just might make it, or at the least be the next super sub!

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by rosterman on Feb 10, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Pridie

I still haven’t forgiven him for that gaffe against the Blue Jays two seasons ago. Good riddance.

by wcooley on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Was this intentional?

I just noticed that the headline for the post says “goodbye” in French while also mentioning a guy named “Jacque”.

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by BeefMaster on Feb 10, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

It's a play on words.

When Jones left, my title was “Au Revoir, Jacque”.

by Jesse on Feb 10, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Smalley looks like he could still play

That would confirm my theory that he’s a vampire.

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, he couldn't play in day games

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Better hope none of the new stadium food has high quantities of garlic, too.

RonGarde: Target Field is going to be exactly like Progressive Field, except you'll have a chance to die of frostbite in the middle of July

by fischean on Feb 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably for the best anyway

He kept freaking out the locker room when his reflection didn’t show up in the mirror

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Feb 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And every time a Latin player crosses himself, Smallley shrieks

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He definetely won't be able to play in Safeco

I could smell those Garlic Fries from my apartment when I lived in Seattle.

by matty_b on Feb 10, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Long thread but....

what does everyone think the bench looks like??

Who is our 2nd CF going to be?

by Joshua P on Feb 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Roy Smalley

For night games anyway

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, no clue

My best guess is we sign someone like Tevaras or Baldelli. Barring that, who knows? Jones? Roberts? Tosoni? Revere? Nobody really stands out.

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by cmathewson on Feb 10, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason Tyner, anyone?

If you could afford the bench spot, Jason Pridie is the perfect 4th outfielder, but the Twins have given that spot to Kubel, now that Thome has signed.

Even if he was AAA, Pridie is not necessarily the best call-up. For the Twins, he might’ve been, as the real prospects are a season or two away. What you hope to have at AAA is the guy ready to become the 4th outfielder at times, or jump into regular duty if something happens up in the majors.

Span did that beautifully. He played everyday at Rochester, then got the call…rather than sit on the bench in Minnesota. He became more hungry.

The Twins have a bunch of Pridies on the minor league rosters — Dustin Martin, Brandon Roberts.

They have legit outfielders. Tosoni, Benson, Revere, Hicks, Morales, Parmelee to name a few…but they are all a season away. You can plug in Revere and let him learn on the job. Would he be worse or better than, say, Gomez. But you’d also have to 40-man him and give him service time.

Which brings to mind Jason Tyner? Where is he? He can run. He can field. He can hit, albeit singles. He just got too expensive for the Twins to keep and couldn’t break thru the prospects of any other organization. But as a backup, he would be a much better grab than, say, Pridie, even at his age.

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