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More Best Twins of All Time

 

Following up on DJL44’s recent post on the best Twins of all time, I thought I’d share a similar list I’d created taking a similar, but slightly different approach.  Rankings are after the jump. 

I was inspired by Jay Jaffe’s fabulous JAWS system (JAWS=Jaffe WArp Score, here’s his latest article: http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10070), which evaluates ballplayers’ hall-of-fame merits by adding the sum of their career WARP score to their WARP score for their 7 peak years.  This way a player gets points for having a long, productive career, but then effectively gets double points for their most dominant years.  I suppose it’s a touch arbitrary, but at the same time there is just something that feels exactly right about it to me.  Anyone familiar with the ins and outs of Bert Blyleven’s hall-of-fame case has probably run into JAWS.

So I created a similar measure for the best Twins of all time.  Of course, players only get credit for production they contributed as Twins.  (And no, I’m sorry, time as a Washington Senator doesn’t count.)  For scoring, I used the average of WAR and WARP3 as a rough way of balancing out those systems’ respective strengths and weaknesses.  And since careers with a single team are generally shorter than baseball careers in general, I used a peak of 5 years instead of 7.  Again, sort of arbitrary, but it feels about right to me.

Oh, and I called it TWRPS, for Twins WAR/WARP Score.  (I know, I should have come up with some way to call it GRTTY or SCRPY or PUNTO or something.) 

Like JAWS, I thought TWRPS would be a nice way to evaluate Twins worthy of the Twins Hall of Fame.  I’d be interested to hear what the TwinkieTowners think about the most over- and under-appreciated Twins.  Also fun is to look at who on the current Twins has a shot at the Twins Hall or of surpassing some of the best Twins of all time.  (Mauer vs. Carew?  Morneau vs. Hrbek?)

It was all very educational for me.  (Really, Roy Smalley was good?)  I followed the Twins 87 and 91 World Series teams as a young, somewhat fickle Twins fan, but otherwise didn’t tune in for much Twins action until the mid 00s.  I’d be curious to know what some of the Twins old-timers feel about the rankings.

In addition to the total TWRPS score, I added columns for years as a Twin, major awards the players accumulated as a Twin, hall-of-fame status, and separate columns for career and peak WAR/WARP3 score.

 

1st Yr Yrs Player HOF? MVPs/CY/ROOKIE All Star TWRPS Rank Career Rank Peak Rank
1967 12 Rod Carew MLB, Twins ROY, MVP 12 96.8 1 59.6 1 37.2 1
1970 11 Bert Blyleven Twins 1 80.2 2 47.1 3 33.2 2
1961 14 Harmon Killebrew MLB, Twins MVP 11 80.0 3 50.8 2 29.2 6
1984 12 Kirby Puckett MLB, Twins ALCSMVP,ASMVP 10 71.0 4 44.1 4 26.9 8
1962 15 Tony Oliva Twins ROY 8 67.1 5 39.4 5 27.7 7
2004 6 Joe Mauer MVP 3 66.2 6 33.8 9 32.4 3
1991 7 Chuck Knoblauch ROY 4 65.4 7 35.0 8 30.4 4
1995 12 Brad Radke Twins 1 63.8 8 39.1 6 24.7 10
2000 8 Johan Santana CY, CY 3 62.5 9 32.7 10 29.8 5
1981 13 Kent Hrbek Twins 1 57.3 10 37.0 7 20.3 17
1961 13 Jim Kaat Twins 2 52.0 11 31.3 11 20.7 15
1982 7 Frank Viola Twins CY, WSMVP 1 51.1 12 26.3 14 24.8 9
1961 10 Bob Allison Twins 2 50.9 13 27.6 12 23.4 12
2004 6 Joe Nathan 4 50.9 14 27.0 13 23.9 11
1972 8 Dave Goltz 45.6 15 24.3 17 21.3 13
1963 10 Jim Perry CY 2 43.5 16 24.4 16 19.2 18
1998 7 Corey Koskie 42.5 17 21.7 18 20.8 14
1981 9 Gary Gaetti Twins ALCSMVP 2 42.4 18 24.5 15 17.9 21
1990 5 Shane Mack 40.9 19 20.5 21 20.5 16
1976 8 Roy Smalley 1 38.7 20 20.6 20 18.1 20
1961 6 Camilo Pascual 4 36.6 21 17.5 25 19.1 19
1989 7 Kevin Tapani 35.7 22 18.8 22 16.9 22
1989 11 Rick Aguilera Twins 3 34.4 23 21.2 19 13.2 31
1973 5 Larry Hisle 1 33.6 24 16.8 26 16.8 23
1965 8 Cesar Tovar 33.3 25 17.8 24 15.5 27
1961 7 Earl Battey Twins 5 32.7 26 16.6 27 16.2 24
1997 10 Torii Hunter 2 32.5 27 17.9 23 14.6 28
2003 7 Justin Morneau MVP 3 32.2 28 16.2 28 16.1 25
1961 7 Zoilo Versalles Twins MVP 2 31.2 29 15.3 29 15.9 26
1971 6 Steve Braun 27.4 30 14.0 30 13.4 29
1990 6 Scott Erickson 26.7 31 13.4 31 13.3 30
1969 3 Leo Cardenas 1 26.2 32 13.1 32 13.1 32
1963 4 Jimmie Hall 2 25.4 33 12.7 34 12.7 33
1988 6 Brian Harper 24.8 34 12.9 33 11.9 37
1983 9 Greg Gagne Twins 24.5 35 11.9 35 12.7 34
1976 6 Butch Wynegar 2 24.0 36 11.8 36 12.2 35
1979 3 Jerry Koosman 22.5 37 11.3 38 11.3 39
1982 6 Tom Brunansky 1 22.5 37 10.9 41 11.7 38
1967 3 Dean Chance 1 22.3 39 11.2 40 11.2 40
1998 6 Eric Milton 1 22.1 40 11.3 38 10.9 41
1964 7 Dave Boswell 21.9 41 9.9 46 12.1 36
1993 12 Eddie Guardado 2 21.2 42 11.4 37 9.8 50
1964 6 Al Worthington 20.9 43 10.4 42 10.6 42
1979 6 John Castino ROY 20.2 44 10.1 43 10.1 44
1975 3 Lyman Bostock 19.9 45 10.0 44 10.0 47
1980 2 Doug Corbett 1 19.8 46 9.9 45 9.9 48
1978 3 Mike Marshall 19.5 47 9.6 50 10.0 46
1977 4 Geoff Zahn 19.5 48 9.8 47 9.8 50
1965 4 Jim Merritt 19.4 49 9.7 48 9.7 52
1973 4 Bill Campbell 19.3 50 9.7 49 9.7 53
2005 5 Scott Baker 18.6 51 8.8 56 9.9 49
1986 6 Allan Anderson 18.6 52 9.0 54 9.6 54
1995 7 Matt Lawton 1 18.3 53 9.2 51 9.1 56
1999 7 Jacque Jones 18.3 53 9.0 53 9.3 55
2001 9 Michael Cuddyer 18.1 55 9.1 52 9.0 57
1999 6 Joe Mays 1 18.0 56 7.8 59 10.2 43
1998 5 A.J. Pierzynski 1 17.7 57 8.8 55 8.9 59
1995 9 LaTroy Hawkins 16.8 58 6.7 69 10.1 45
2004 4 Jason Bartlett 16.3 59 8.1 57 8.3 62
1995 5 Marty Cordova ROY 16.0 60 7.6 60 8.4 61
1992 9 Mike Trombley 16.0 60 7.9 58 8.1 63
2004 4 Carlos Silva 16.0 62 7.1 65 8.9 58
1961 8 Rich Rollins 2 16.0 62 7.5 61 8.5 60
2001 6 Juan Rincon 14.9 64 7.0 66 7.9 64
2008 2 Denard Span 14.8 65 7.4 62 7.4 69
1971 4 Eric Soderholm 14.8 66 7.3 63 7.5 66
1979 4 Gary Ward 1 14.7 67 7.2 64 7.5 67
1961 3 Jack Kralick 14.4 68 7.0 67 7.4 68
1961 6 Don Mincher 14.2 69 7.0 67 7.3 72
1980 5 Albert Williams 14.1 70 6.7 71 7.4 70
1978 5 Roger Erickson 13.9 71 6.6 73 7.3 71
2004 6 Nick Punto 13.4 72 6.3 74 7.2 73
1987 4 Juan Berenguer 13.4 73 6.7 70 6.7 76
1991 2 Chili Davis 13.2 74 6.6 72 6.6 80
1968 4 Ron Perranoski 13.1 75 5.4 84 7.8 65
2004 5 Matt Guerrier 12.8 76 6.1 75 6.7 77
1966 7 George Mitterwald 12.6 77 5.7 82 6.9 74
1993 5 Rich Becker 12.5 78 5.8 79 6.7 78
1968 4 Tom Hall 12.3 79 6.0 76 6.3 83
2004 5 Jason Kubel 12.2 80 5.6 83 6.7 78
2004 6 Jesse Crain 12.1 81 5.7 81 6.4 81
1984 4 Mike Smithson 11.9 82 5.8 79 6.1 85
1987 3 Jeff Reardon 1 11.7 83 5.9 77 5.9 87
1997 2 Bob Tewksbury 11.7 83 5.9 77 5.9 87
1999 7 J.C. Romero 11.3 85 5.1 87 6.3 83
1989 7 Mark Guthrie 10.8 86 5.3 86 5.6 93
1983 3 Tim Teufel 10.7 87 5.3 85 5.4 95
1962 4 Dick Stigman 10.6 88 5.1 87 5.5 94
2001 6 Kyle Lohse 10.5 89 4.7 93 5.9 87
1998 6 Doug Mientkiewicz 10.4 91 4.1 104 6.3 82
1973 4 Joe Decker 10.4 92 4.4 98 6.0 86
1999 6 Cristian Guzman 1 10.1 93 3.3 120 6.8 75
1991 4 Carl Willis 10.1 94 4.8 91 5.3 96
1976 5 Mike Cubbage 10.1 94 4.4 95 5.7 90
1992 1 John Smiley 9.6 97 4.8 90 4.8 104
2005 4 Francisco Liriano 1 9.6 98 4.5 94 5.1 100
1974 5 Tom Johnson 9.4 99 4.2 102 5.2 99
1993 6 Pat Meares 9.3 100 3.7 111 5.7 90
1969 5 Dick Woodson 9.1 101 4.4 95 4.7 107
1974 4 Tom Burgmeier 9.0 102 4.4 98 4.7 108
1975 4 Dan Ford 9.0 102 4.3 100 4.7 105
2007 3 Nick Blackburn 8.9 104 4.2 103 4.7 105
1997 2 Greg Swindell 8.8 105 4.4 97 4.4 111
1990 6 Scott Leius 8.8 106 4.3 101 4.5 110
1992 5 Jeff Reboulet 8.3 107 3.7 110 4.6 109
1971 5 Ray Corbin 8.1 108 3.2 125 5.0 102
2006 3 Dennys Reyes 7.9 109 4.0 105 4.0 119
1986 3 Keith Atherton 7.8 110 3.9 106 3.9 123
1991 1 Jack Morris WS MVP 1 7.8 110 3.9 106 3.9 123
1996 3 Paul Molitor MLB 7.8 112 3.8 109 4.0 117
2008 2 Carlos Gomez 7.7 113 3.9 108 3.9 126
1982 5 Pete Filson 7.6 114 3.6 115 4.1 116
2005 5 Lew Ford 7.6 114 3.3 120 4.3 112
2005 5 Mike Redmond 7.6 116 3.4 118 4.2 113
1982 5 Ron Davis 7.6 117 2.5 146 5.1 101
1991 3 Mike Pagliarulo 7.5 118 3.5 117 4.0 117
1999 4 Bob Wells 7.4 119 3.4 118 4.0 119
1983 3 Ken Schrom 7.3 120 3.6 114 3.7 129
1976 7 Pete Redfern 7.3 121 2.1 159 5.3 96
2007 3 Kevin Slowey 7.3 121 3.7 111 3.7 131
1986 5 Roy Smith 7.3 123 3.6 115 3.7 129
1961 4 Lenny Green 7.3 124 3.1 128 4.2 114
1961 1 Pedro Ramos 7.2 125 3.6 113 3.6 133
1978 4 Darrell Jackson 7.2 125 3.3 120 3.9 123
1981 6 Mickey Hatcher 7.1 127 1.8 167 5.3 96
1973 6 Craig Kusick 7.0 128 3.0 132 4.1 115
1987 5 Dan Gladden 7.0 129 3.2 125 3.8 127
1999 3 Mark Redman 6.7 130 3.2 124 3.5 134
2006 3 Pat Neshek 6.6 131 3.3 120 3.3 138
1962 5 Bernie Allen 6.4 132 3.1 130 3.4 137
1964 3 Johnny Klippstein 6.3 133 3.2 125 3.2 139
1998 4 Hector Carrasco 6.1 134 3.1 129 3.1 143
1997 3 Terry Steinbach 6.1 135 3.1 130 3.1 144
1982 11 Randy Bush 6.1 136 2.1 155 4.0 119
1963 2 Bill Dailey 6.1 136 2.3 149 3.8 128
1984 3 John Butcher 6.0 138 2.9 133 3.1 142
2001 3 Bobby Kielty 5.7 139 2.8 136 3.0 146
1961 4 Lee Stange 5.7 140 2.3 150 3.4 136
2001 3 Rick Reed 5.6 141 2.7 137 2.9 149
2006 2 Luis Castillo 5.6 142 2.8 134 2.8 153
1998 1 Mike Morgan 5.6 142 2.8 134 2.8 153
1982 3 Bobby Castillo 9.7 96 4.9 89 4.9 103
1964 4 Mudcat Grant 1 10.4 90 4.8 91 5.6 92
1973 2 Bill Hands 5.4 144 2.7 137 2.7 159
1981 9 Tim Laudner 1 5.4 144 1.8 168 3.6 132
1964 9 Rich Reese 5.4 146 1.5 188 4.0 122
1968 2 Bob Miller 5.2 147 2.6 139 2.6 162
1996 1 Dave Hollins 5.2 147 2.6 139 2.6 162
1993 2 Jim Deshaies 5.2 149 2.1 158 3.1 140
1989 3 Gary Wayne 5.1 150 2.6 141 2.6 166
1987 7 Gene Larkin 5.1 151 2.1 159 3.1 144
2001 3 Tom Prince 5.0 152 2.5 142 2.5 168
1985 2 Mark Salas 5.0 152 2.5 142 2.5 168
2008 2 Jose Mijares 5.0 152 2.5 142 2.5 168
1972 7 Glenn Borgmann 5.0 156 2.3 150 2.7 159
1996 5 Todd Walker 4.9 157 2.1 159 2.9 151
1990 2 Terry Leach 4.9 157 2.5 147 2.5 172
2003 4 Shannon Stewart 4.9 159 2.4 148 2.6 167
1995 4 Frankie Rodriguez 4.8 160 2.2 154 2.7 161
1997 6 David Ortiz 4.7 161 2.1 155 2.6 162
1977 6 Rob Wilfong 4.6 162 1.2 197 3.5 135
2001 1 Tony Fiore 4.4 163 2.2 152 2.2 179
1991 2 Tom Edens 4.4 163 2.2 152 2.2 179
1995 6 Ron Coomer 1 4.4 165 1.5 187 2.9 149
1970 2 Stan Williams 4.3 166 1.9 166 2.5 172
1981 5 Dave Engle 1 4.3 167 1.9 165 2.4 174
1986 1 Neal Heaton 4.2 168 2.1 155 2.1 184
1991 3 Willie Banks 4.2 169 1.6 175 2.6 165
1980 3 Fernando Arroyo 4.2 170 2.1 159 2.1 184
1973 4 Vic Albury 4.2 170 2.0 163 2.2 179
1972 4 Bobby Darwin 4.1 172 1.3 194 2.8 153
1970 7 Steve Brye 4.0 173 1.3 194 2.8 156
1977 2 Gary Serum 3.9 174 2.0 163 2.0 190
1990 5 Larry Casian 3.9 175 1.6 172 2.3 176
1983 3 Rick Lysander 3.9 176 1.7 170 2.2 183
1978 3 Bombo Rivera 3.8 177 1.6 179 2.3 176
1985 3 Mark Portugal 3.8 178 1.5 183 2.3 175
1974 4 Jim Hughes 3.8 178 0.7 231 3.1 140
1995 3 Rich Robertson 3.7 180 1.6 179 2.1 188
1985 4 Steve Lombardozzi 3.6 181 1.5 182 2.1 184
2006 4 Glen Perkins 3.6 182 1.6 172 2.0 192
1981 3 Brad Havens 3.6 182 0.6 237 3.0 146
2001 2 Dustan Mohr 3.5 184 1.6 177 1.9 193
2005 3 Jason Tyner 3.4 185 1.7 169 1.7 197
2003 1 Kenny Rogers 3.4 186 1.7 170 1.7 201
1990 6 Pedro Munoz 3.3 187 0.3 265 3.0 146
1970 7 Danny Thompson 3.3 188 0.4 262 2.9 151
1996 6 Travis Miller 3.3 188 0.5 244 2.8 156
1994 2 Alex Cole 3.2 190 1.6 172 1.6 202
1996 2 Greg Myers 3.2 191 1.6 175 1.6 203
2009 1 Joe Crede 3.1 192 1.6 177 1.6 205
1970 1 Luis Tiant 3.1 193 1.6 179 1.6 208
1983 3 Len Whitehouse 3.1 194 1.4 190 1.7 197
2009 1 Brian Duensing 3.0 195 1.5 183 1.5 209
1990 2 Junior Ortiz 3.0 195 1.5 183 1.5 209
1975 1 Johnny Briggs 2.9 197 1.5 186 1.5 212
1978 5 Jose Morales 2.8 198 1.0 207 1.9 194
2007 5 Jose Morales 2.8 198 1.0 207 1.9 194
1990 1 John Candelaria 2.8 200 1.4 189 1.4 218
1993 5 Scott Stahoviak 2.8 200 0.9 218 2.0 190

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