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Who Am I? (Washington Senators Edition)

We haven't done this too much this off-season, so with the first spring training game tomorrow I thought we'd fit one in real quick.  We'll start easy...

...I hold the franchise record in strikeouts, innings pitched, wins and games started.
...who am I?

Star-divide

...I played for the Senators for 19 seasons.
...my career batting average is .322.
...I hold the franchise record for hits and doubles.
...who am I?

...between 1923 and 1928 I led the league in triples (twice), RBI (once) and batting average (once).
...over that same period I hit .339/.402/.528.
...in my tenth season with the Senators I was traded.  Two and a half years later, I was traded back.  One year and six days later, the Senators traded me a second time.  Four seasons later I returned to finish my career with the Senators...this time as a free agent.
...who am I?

...on one of the worst teams in franchise history, I hit .271/.364/.489 with 25 home runs.
...I won Rookie of the Year...although this wasn't with the Senators.
...but when I was with the Senators, I once led the league in homers and RBI.
...I finished my career with the Senators in a season where they lost the World Series...but I wasn't playing with them.  Strange but true!
...who am I?

...I was a three-time All-Star with the Senators, once in a season when I lost 19 games.
...other than Brad Radke I'm the only pitcher in the history of the franchise that pitched more than 1000 innings for the team and averaged less than two walks per nine innings.
...the Senators drafted me in the rule 5 draft from Atlanta, of the Southern Association.
...who am I?

I'll kick answers back in the morning, although I fully expect you'll figure them all out.

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Who Am I?

1. The Big Train
2. Sam Rice
3. Goose Goslin
4. Roy Sievers
5. Dutch Leonard

Blake (Twinscards.com)

Blake Meyer (TwinsCards)
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by TwinsCards on Mar 3, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Dude!

Nice work, Blake. I thought for sure one or two of those would give somebody a challenge…and it took you all of 19 minutes!

Obviously, 5 for 5.

by Jesse on Mar 4, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Round two?

As a 26 year old second basemen, the club made me player/manager and I took the team to its only WS title in my first season. I managed the Senators in three separate extended periods. I won my second WS for another club between my 2nd and 3rd stints. I’m still #7 on the all-time wins list for managers.
Who Am I?

I spent my first nine seasons pitching for the Senators, putting up a mediocre 72-87 record. At age 28, I was traded to a contender and soon became one of the leagues best workhorse starters for the next decade… retiring with exactly 300 Wins and making the HOF.
Who Am I?

I was one of the games first notable relief aces. The Save wasn’t invented yet, but I grabbed the all-time record in just my 4th big league season and held it for the next 20 years. Plus, I had a really cool name.
Who Am I?

Known more for my days with the Phillies, I did not disappoint when I jumped to the AL to play for the Senators. In my first season with the Senators, I led the AL in double, OBP and SLG. Halfway through my second season, I got drunk and disorderly on a train ride back home from a game Detroit and the conductor ordered me off the train. I wandered drunk onto the International Bridge and either fell/jumped off and died as my body was swept over Niagara Falls.
Who Am I?

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

3. Firpo Marberry
4. (Hint)…1 of 4 Major League Brothers

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by TwinsCards on Mar 3, 2010 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

Enough time has passed that I can feel amazed and amused at the bizarre fate of #4. Wow. Anecdotes like that one make me slightly disappointed that we don’t embrace our Senator legacy. :-)

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be Ed Delahanty

He is also the only player to have won an AL and NL batting crown.

/nerd

by JTW on Mar 3, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the tidbit...

I guess there is a bit of historical controversy because bb-ref gives Lajoie the batting title that year. They gave it to Lajoie at the time, but found more hits of his much later. But MLB still recognizes Delahanty. An added twist is Lajoie had a low number of PA’s that year and might not have qualified.

Still… going over Niagara Falls. Baseball players don’t make exits like that anymore. :-)

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Firpo!

He and Johnny Safron have left the building.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Scot over at http://coffeyvillewhirlwind.wordpress.com/ does a great job keeping the Senators (Nationals) legacy alive. Lot’s of Twins and Senators history…and I agree, we should embrace it more!

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by TwinsCards on Mar 3, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Round Three

My nephew is remembered as being one of the first Latin American stars but it was me who was the first major-leaguer who was born in Venezuela. I was a pitcher and I shared my famous nephew’s last name.
Who am I?
I was the other young middle infielder to take the Senators to the World Series in his first year as player-manager. I didn’t win my World Series though. Traded two years later, I continued player-managing for the next thirteen season, reaching the World Series one more time but losing again. I earned my spot in the HOF with my bat, but I was also a sucessful executive, serving as team GM and League President.
Who am I?
Not long after the person above me on this list left, I became the next great Senator shortstop. A three-time all-star, I was coming off my best season (OPS+ 150, 100+ R/ 100+ RBI) when WWII broke out. Unfortunately, I suffered severe frostbite in the Battle of the Bulge and was not the same player afterwards.
Who am I?
Proof that you don’t need to instill fear into opposing pitchers to have good plate discipline. Most years, I had mediocre batting averages and little power yet I still managed to lead the league in walks six times (finishing second to Ted Williams twice). I had a whopping 124 BB per 162 games over my career. One year I had 151 BB and just 119 H. The Senators traded me for make room in the lineup for Harmon Killebrew.
Who am I?

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

#2 is Joe Cronin

Thats the only one I know off the top of my head. I wanna say #3 is Heinie Manush, but I dont think thats right.

by JTW on Mar 3, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No... not Manush

Manush played OF. #3 is one of the more noted “what if” careers because of the frostbite injury. Ironically, he lived to be 93… just died a few years ago.

  1. is a bit obscure other than the first Venezuelan born bit. Its the same last name as the famous nephew though, so the last name would be good enough here. #4 is one of those great oddities in history… a torpidly slow lead-off hitter who was effective because his OBP was often about .400.

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

#3

Cecil Travis?

  1. - Yost?

by DJL44 on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

#3 is Travis, #4 is Yost

I think you got mixed up on the numbers.

  1. played for the Senators from 39-45. His nephew was a big 50s star. Not close to being a HOF-er but was a 4-time all-star. His name is often mentioned as one of the first Latin-American stars as most of the big names came later in the decade. Frankly, looking at his batting numbers, I expected them to be better, but I guess he was a SS with a good glove.

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bulletized by "#1" again.

the above describes “#1”. Can’t put a ‘#’ at the beginning of a line I guess.

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Had to google it

but #1 is Alex Carrasquel

by JTW on Mar 3, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Got it...

People were getting answers too easily, I saw a famous name on a Senator roster, checked for family connection and went for it.

by DavidRF on Mar 3, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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