KFAN: Twins-Mauer Signing Imminent
by Jesse on Mar 5, 2010 7:55 PM EST
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According to Common (click here for the hour's podcast):
"My source says 'I am not a media member and I don't run a website, but I have a family member with the Twins.' ... The deal will be signed by Sunday. It will be an eight-year deal with an average salary of $22 million dollars per year. It will end up being $165 - $175 million for eight years. It will also include the ninth and tenth year as options with a salary of $23 to $25 million a year. The numbers are set but the length was the holdup, and it has been solved."
If this information is accurate, and Common seems to believe quite confidently in his source (who apparently also helped Common break the Jim Thome and J.J. Hardy moves this off-season), then I'm ecstatic at this result.
We'll find over the weekend. Stay tuned for the latest on the Joe Mauer contract situation.
[Hat tip to Robin G. who pointed this bit out in the comments of today's game thread.]
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Well Done
Well done Jesse, beat me to it by like 2 minutes.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
No prob
Yours is a lot purtyer than mine was anyway!
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Folks
Folks, I’m in Chicago, so I’m only getting secondhand reports on what they’re saying on the radio. If somebody listening in the Twin cities gets more info, put it here so I or one of the other main posters can put it up.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
I heard this on KFAN earlier this afternoon. I remember him breaking the Jim Thome news, so I have to believe he’d only share this information if he really thought it was at least somewhat accurate.
I think I read somewhere today that Bill Smith cancelled an appearance for a “meeting” today. Also, Mauer’s agent visits camp each year, but he remained in Fort Myers for a second day today which apparently isn’t as usual for him.
We’ll see.
Good thing you're a blogger, not a bookmaker
I think the field would have made out like bandits.
But the whole thing sounds good to me. Here’s hoping you write an article in 2018 about what a no-brainer it is to pick up Mauer’s option (even though we’ll need some extra scratch to lock up Sano long-term…and keep the other pieces of the 5-peat World Champs together).
Oh please God, give this to me as a birthday gift!
oh please oh please oh please
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
In fairness, I got it from a guy on Pat Neshek's message board.
Though I tracked down the link, so… I get half credit?
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Ahhhh!
Hopehopehopehopehope!
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I hope it's not that Vomit guy again
This is like being on a rollercoaster ride.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions
Hometown discount?
Personally, I think the Twins got caught in the East Coast hyperbole of what Mauer could get from the Yanks or the Sawx. If those numbers are correct, that is a huge chunk of change and is certainly not a hometown discount. I am excited if Mauer is signed, but like many of us, a little concerned that the Twins will be able to consistently compete with one player sucking up 20-25% of the salary cap.
But… how could you honestly not sign a once-in-a-lifetime talent at a premium position?
by TheBlackFreighter on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 PM EST reply actions
I wouldn't say it's certainly not a hometown discount
Mauer is better than Teixeira, and will be a year younger when the contract starts. Like you said, Mauer is once-in-a-lifetime talent. Teixera is a very good first basemen.
So a little bit less, for a better, younger player sounds like a discount to me. But, yeah, not exactly a huge discount.
The way I think of it, is that our payroll has probably gone up by at least 20 mil for the future. So basically, we’re in the same boat we were for the 00’s, only with Joe Mauer. Sounds good to me.
"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"
by Steven Ellingson on Mar 5, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
although I used Teixeira's contract as a guide,
ARod is probably a better comp in terms of talent. And 8 for 170 is WAY better than 10 for 275.
But, for a more recent signing, and one that doesn’t involve the Yankees…
Holliday just signed for 7 for 120.
Mauer will be 2 years younger than Holliday at time of signing.
CHONE projects Mauer at 7.3 WAR next year (and this isn’t taking into account defense), and projects Holliday at 4.9 WAR (This IS taking into account defense).
I have to think that 2.4 WAR is worth a lot more than 4 mil per year, right?
And although the deal would be for an extra year, he’d be 1 year younger when it ends.
All in all, I’d say the speculated deal is definitely more favorable than the big deals signed the last couple years.
"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"
by Steven Ellingson on Mar 5, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
+1, and speaking of payroll...
I thought this was pretty interesting in Gammon’s article on the Twins up at MLB.com:
“But regardless of the weather, the Twins will realize a significant bump in revenues with their new park. They’re about to sign a new radio and TV deal.
’It’s not quite a Seattle deal,’ said one club official, but another says it will put the Twins within ‘the top 8-10 revenue teams,’ giving them a higher payroll than the Dodgers."
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100305&content_id=8694276&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
(by the way, anyone know how to do the quotation effect?)
(by the way, anyone know how to do the quotation effect?)
If that’s what you mean, type “bq.”
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
And
it may be less of a home-town discount and more of a there’s-only-one-team-I-can-negotiate-with discount. Mauer would have been offered more than this on the open market this offseason, but he’s not on the open market. To make the open market, he’d have to get another year older and probably wouldn’t be coming off the best season in history by a catcher.
I think it sounds like a number that’s really neither a steal for the Twins or Mauer. Hopefully it works out very well for both.
The players union
would put heavy pressure on any player that gave too much of a discount. I’d bet Joe would be fine with a little less but would his colleagues?
by z-squad on Mar 6, 2010 12:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
We’re paying him what he’s worth. The Yanks would have payed him what it cost to scare away the competition. Frankly, 22 mil a year is about a million less than I expected, and I still think 23 would have been a steal.
If we eat the cost, we eat the cost, but we’re not just paying for talent. We’re paying for a lifetime hometown franchise player. Again, having grown up going to Camden Yards to see Cal Ripken, I can’t begin to tell you what that does for a baseball team. Joe’s going to be worth every penny.
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Today's Rate
Exactly. At today’s general rate, Joe would need to be a 6 win player to justify that contract (though that is not including the “markee” and marketing value a star of his caliber provides, which is worth several million a year at least, so reduces the real cost). That’s a whole lot of wins, though one would think he could average that over the next several seasons, and by the end of the deal, if he’s fallen off some, the market will have inflated by then anyway and he could be even more of a steal.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Did I really just say "The Yanks would have *payed* him"?
I meant “paid”. Total English Language Fail. I’m going to crawl into a hole and die now.
http://www.realityfish.com
heh
Dun’t b sew hard on youself. Oh, btw, since I haven’t posted on this yet… WOOHOO! Go Twins and Mauer
Holy Cow!
I remember seeing a blurb on ESPN that this might happen.
It better be “imminent!”
Mauer FTW!
Ski-U-Mah!
If there was ever a dedicated fanbase that deserved and appreciated a star like Joe Mauer
it is you twinkies.
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by 44FAN on Mar 6, 2010 2:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Classy
thanks, 44FAN. You know, I have to say much the same about Angels fans. Let’s meet up in the ALCS this year, eh?
by Adam Peterson on Mar 6, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
A no AL East ALCS sounds great to me
"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"
by Steven Ellingson on Mar 6, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Imminent
you know, if this story is accurate and we have a signing by Sunday, it’s pretty much in line with what Rosen broke a few weeks ago.
I have a bottle of Scotch waiting to be opened…let’s punch this into the end zone!
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"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
There is a baseball game on the radio right now!!
And its the Twins! Perkins is picthing.
Scoreless in the 3rd. Looks like Leriano started and Perk is in now.
I always loved that one.
Nathan
and Nathan either hurt himself or had a 20 pitch count…strike out and two walks and then out of the game….
fingers crossed
hopefully it was just an absurd pitch count limit. trainer and anderson apparently came to the mound after his second walk to take him out…
optimism unfounded
JoeC on twitter: “Nathan left for precautionary reasons after experiencing soreness in his right elbow.”
Don't worry (yet)
Didn’t I read that he was going to need to ‘work through some scar tissue’ this spring? Probably not a big deal.
Not worried yet
I actually find wildly speculating about his elbow to be a nice distraction from wildly speculating about Mauer’s contract status. I think I’m at least as qualified :)
It is worht mentioning that there has been absolutely nothing abotu Mauer other than the common man story
Not a single other media source has so much as mentioned this report or any of the details in it since it came out. Worth considering before you get too excited…
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Would you say anything?
If you got scooped by a comedian?
Perkins didn’t do himself any favors today.
by z-squad on Mar 6, 2010 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Give the man a pen
I hope Mauer does sign on Sunday! :)
45 minutes
45 minutes into Sunday, tick tock, Common Man
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
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