OVT Twins vs Tigers
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 28, 2010 9:06 PM EDT
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PrintGame 163, Orlando Cabrera just hit a 2 run blast to give the Twins a 4 to 3 lead going into the 8th. Rick Porcello has pitched extremly well for the Detroit Tigers, and has become Ron Darlings new favorite player.
Wrong Game sorry. Twins are clinging onto a 6-5 lead right now heading into the top of the 6th.
Jimmers mashed a big two run tater
Hughes with a slightly less as big tater
Kubel with a RBI single
Same With Span
Same with O-dawg as well.
LETS GO TWINS!
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Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
That makes me think of...
Do you like fish sticks?
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
you need to get those runners home, boys.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Hardy is slow. Really slow.
I tried to make this argument a while ago and people told me he was faster than Mauer…
Nah, he's slow
but he also has a bad knee right now. You can tell he’s favoring it when he runs.
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
He said he'll be struggling with it all year.
What would it take to get that knee taken care of?
It's just not fair to Baker to have to pitch the day after Liriano.
Makes him look terrible.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
haha, just said the same thing
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
I'm pretty sure Baker made himself look terrible there
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
over my head
too busy trying to concentrate
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
naw more like 31%
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
my fugglies
Denard Span
Nick Blackburn
Scott Baker
Jose Mijares
my Buddies
Francisco Liriano
Justin Morneau
Michael Cuddyer
Jon Rauch
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
Span will turn it around.
I’m not so sure about the huggers and the human burrito.
What?
he looked like he caught it and then dropped it on the change
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
must be payback
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
No kidding...maybe a little payback?
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Psh, yeah right, the umps are infallible.
Haven’t you heard?
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
two or three steps
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
Aghhh, Gardy's ejected.
Still, what a terrible friggin call.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
He had his hand in the glove when it fell out...
…does that mean anything?
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
baseball is rigged.
Not classy at all.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
a ticklish spot? okay Dick...
I know this is going to get responses, haha
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
How is that NOT a catch?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
apparently he "didn't hold on long enough".
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
What BS
he had it for about 3 or 4 steps
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Apr 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i think so, yes
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
I think they have until the next day, right?
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I just broke my window after throwing a shoe at it because I was so mad the umps didn't overturn it.
that's one weak window
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
A CATCH is the act of a fielder in getting secure possession in his hand or glove of
a ball in flight and firmly holding it; providing he does not use his cap, protector, pocket or
any other part of his uniform in getting possession. It is not a catch, however, if
simultaneously or immediately following his contact with the ball, he collides with a player,
or with a wall, or if he falls down, and as a result of such collision or falling, drops the ball.
It is not a catch if a fielder touches a fly ball which then hits a member of the offensive team
or an umpire and then is caught by another defensive player. If the fielder has made the
catch and drops the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch, the ball shall
be adjudged to have been caught. In establishing the validity of the catch, the fielder shall
hold the ball long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball and that his
release of the ball is voluntary and intentional.
Never seen Neshek curse
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
Our pitching sucks.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
I hate Detroit.
Hate their stupid team, their stupid park, and their stupid fans.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Ok, maybe an overreaction.
but I am not a fan.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
I just knew this wasn't gonna go well
when we went to mahay and neshek, the whole 5 pitchers to get 6 outs theory SUCKS
Cabrera stepped into that one
"You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth." ~Mickey Mantle
by Michael in N.Cali on Apr 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
He definitely did NOT try to get out of the way
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprise surprise
Paul Emmel is from Michigan.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
I'm so mad right now
They just said “that’s for last night” to D-Span.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
No Class.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
"You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth." ~Mickey Mantle
by Michael in N.Cali on Apr 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
And it's only
the 6th inning…
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, Crain.
Thanks for clearing up the bases, they were looking kinda full anyway.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
I don't blame Crain
he’s our worst pitcher in the bullpen right now.
This is all on Gardy. No need to put Crain in for Neshek. No need to take Burnett out.
Gardy didn't throw those pitches, Crain did.
Burnett should have stayed in, sure, I’ll give you that. But Crain is to blame.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
What a load of CARP!!!
Or, are you like Gleeman that the players are only responsible for wins, not crap performances?
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
this sucks
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
DFA Crainwreck
He’ll never stop being horrible. At his best, he has mid ’90’s heat with no movement. Like a tee for a professional hitter.
Oh my god
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
Does anyone know where I can find any information on these umps?
I’m not trying to go all Revolution Muslim on them or anything, I just want to send them a friendly email.
I would LOVE to give Emmel a piece of my mind
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Apr 28, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Game is over.
We don’t have the offense.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
I need
every reason to be negative right now.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
try being positive
its better for your health.
I mean ****ing A
you’re rolling out the bullpen 4 times, you might wanna open the door one more time when this guy can’t get anybody out!
How's that 4 relievers in one inning working out for you now Gardy?
I hope you all realize how ridiculous the managing is this inning
you realize Gardy was tossed, yes?
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
I do.
But blaming Gardy at this point is kind of ridiculous.
He did what he did, doesn’t mean Crain’s gotta suck as soon as he steps on the mound.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
will you just let me be mad at Crain?!
:)
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
The issue is bad pitching
But the bad pitching kind of throws the spastic bullpen management into sharp relief sometimes. Over the course of 162 games it works better than not. But when it fails it’s apalling.
it's not stratomatic
whenever the bullpen door opens, the opportunity exists for the incoming reliver to be off that day, or not have “it” Burnett was doing fine, but we decide we need to use 3 relievers to get 2 outs and you see what happens when one of the guys didn’t have his good stuff, we’re down 5
I wasn't paying full attention, by the way
why was Burnett taken out?
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Crain is a tool to be used by the manager
Crain probably can’t help that he sucks. I’m sure he feels terrible about it.
But Gardenhire doesn’t have to put him in the game. It’s a lot easier to learn how to not make bad decisions than it is to learn to be an effective major league pitcher.
No, I actually do understand the whole thing.
It’s just frustrating to see him suck in these kinds of situations.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
someone's gotta pitch when we're down 5 runs and need a few innings
Jesse can do that.
Someone has to be the 7th man, garbage reliever, Jesse can do that.
From the beginning
Bringing in Mahay wasn’t a great idea. Damon kills lefties so far this year, Mahay’s average. Burnett was dominant, keep him in there.
I still can't believe we thought getting him was a good idea
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mahay has pitched fine
But this was not the right situation for him to come in. He isn’t Dennys Reyes.
how about we stop throwing it down the middle?
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
Or he could be a tee for batters
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Crain is as bad as he was last season
Crain has been really bad of late. As bad as last year. When Mijares or Condrey are activated, jettison Crain and keep Burnett.
Me
also worth a look
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Crain sucks a nut, but I still blame this on Baker for letting them get right back into it.
"You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth." ~Mickey Mantle
by Michael in N.Cali on Apr 28, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
There's another guy who's consistently sucked
I propose we clone Liriano
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Crain makes no sense.
One outing he pitches a 1-2-3 8 pitch gem where he’s throwing 96 and just nasty. The next outing he gives up 3 doubles on 4 pitches, I just don’t get it.
Just like a train
he’s fine on the straightaways, but when he hits a sharp curve…
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see if we just roll over or if we got some fight
"You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth." ~Mickey Mantle
by Michael in N.Cali on Apr 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
roll over
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
I still blame the umps
I don’t care what anyone says…that blown call started it all.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
2 outs, guy on first
what should’ve been
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya no reason
to lose to such a shitty team. Unless the Umps are out to get us.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It probably did
But we need to get this kind of nonsense out of our systems now. Come mid-October on the East Coast, this is all we’re going to get so we’d better be able to deal with it.
I don't think my throwable objects
and walls can handle any calls like that that lead to runs
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
You know what? I'm good with instant replay now.
I used to be a holdout. I thought that you can’t take the human element out of baseball. People make mistakes. But right now, I don’t care. I know that these calls go both ways. We’ve certainly benefited from them. But when an ump gets to keep his job even- though he clearly wasn’t trying to get himself in good position, and then gets to decide whether or not a potentially game changing play was actually an out, which could be determined by personal feelings towards the player in question, its time for a change.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
Yes
leave the human element in calling the strikezone (although make sure that machines judge the ump’s consistency) and make everything else objective. This is just ridiculous.
It's almost NBA level
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Case in point
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Apr 28, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He had perfect position.
I don’t see any possible way that he could have missed that call, when it was fair two different times and he was standing 10 feet away looking right at it. If that isn’t staged then I don’t know what is.
I've always thought it would be sweet if they just used K-zone for just one game and
let it call all the strikes and balls.
It wouldn't make a difference
I’d still get pissed off
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think umps just need to be punished more than they are.
I’m not really for or against instant replay being used on plays like this. This was a pretty obvious call from the start, he would’ve had time to signal out before Span bobbled it. I think this just shows the umpire’s grudge against Span because Span walked away from him in an intimidating manner last night. That’s just unacceptable, I’d like to see a suspension for Paul Emmel after his performance the last two nights.
Agree
And I’ll add NHL referees (not because of anything that happened tonight, just in general).
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
Good God
What happened? Actually, don’t answer that; I see what happened.
I figured if I went away it would get better…
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
So what's Baker's ERA after tonight?
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Wasn't it over
10 last week???
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Apr 28, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm tired and I'm hungry...
I hope me leaving makes them score more runs.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
how long was it in the glove?!?!
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Nope, Tigers get an automatic run.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
5 consecutive home runs?
we’d only be tied, god damn you jesse crain
I'm dreaming of memories
against the Angels last year…when we came back from a 7 run deficit.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Or the numerous times we've come back on Detroit
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Suicide hotline would be overloaded
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
One good thing today
Kubel has looked way better at the plate
and to not needlessly try and steal 3B.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Caps have blown it
I’m ready for some hope. Here’s to a less failure of a nats season, and a twins world series win!
John Carlson: Slays Canadians and Canadiens.
i was hoping that was gone
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
the Twins have lost 3 HRs to this stadium today
Cuddyer lost 2 himself
I love the Twins
and I’d never give up on ’em. But I have given up on this officiating crew.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Everyone except the East Coast teams have
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF?
looks like Bakes got shook and Crainwrecked.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Positive happines come whit sucess if you no have that is all bs" -Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Apr 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Sucks that Mahay gets the loss instead of Crain. Gardy.
ok.ok
by ajmargarine on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Who started that lefty/righty overmanaging stuff anyway?
Anyone? I remember my dad screaming at Sparky Anderson in the Big Red Machine days for doing the “5 pitchers to get 6 outs” stuff. Sparky didn’t start that, did he?
It's not all Gardy's fault.
Generally, he uses his bullpen well, much better than other managers in the league. Tonight, he did what he thought was right based on his options. The umpire did what he knew was wrong based on another guy pissing him off previously, and he wants to see make his hometown team win.
lost in all this is that he sent baker out for the 5th and pulled him after one pitch. gardy does NOT use his bullpen well and I keep pointing that out and people here keep groaning at his decisions, but then they say he uses his bullpen well!
by ajmargarine on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He made some mistakes, but all of the bullpen moves were justifiable from a non statistical point of view
He played with fire by letting Baker go back out, but think about if he has a 1-2-3 inning. Praise. Then he acted quickly and brought in Burnett, which turned out to be a good decision. Then, he pulled Burnett for Mahay to get a lefty-lefty matchup, which didn’t make sense at all based on the platoon splits. At that point, who would you rather have brought in in place of Neshek? Crain was a terrible choice to put in, obviously, but he never would have even had an opportunity had the umpire made the right call. Inning would have most likely been over, Neshek, Guerrier, Rauch shutdown, game over. Gardy definitely made mistakes in this one, but that isn’t what cost them the game. The only one I have a real problem with is pulling Burnett for Mahay, which led to all the other moves.
we're only down 5 because of him.
it’s a vicious circle.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
So there is the answer to chicken v. egg. Wait, what?
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
The answer is 42
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Typical Crain
That’s why his ERA is respectable every year. He has great stuff. Just not in close games.
This is from hittingthefoulpole.com
Jesse Crain
One of my least favorite pitchers over the years, Crain is kind of an annoying relief pitcher. He looks good when he comes in with the bases empty, but can’t seem to take care of business if there are runners on. That isn’t exactly a great quality in a middle reliever/setup man. Crain’s K/9 is in line with his career average so far, his BABIP sits at .323, so I expect that to come down. His GB% (29.2%) is quite a bit below his career average (46.5%). I don’t see him going anywhere, and I expect him to be an average pitcher most of the year. He will look pretty good when nobody is on base, and he will struggle if he is asked to get out of other people’s jams.
I believe Crain is out of options
anyone know for sure?
by ajmargarine on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not even sure sending him to the minors would help that much.
His mechanics are fine, he just has an acute ability to throw it right down the middle every pitch when men are on base in a close game. It isn’t like he’s walking guys at an extreme rate leading to his ineffectiveness, it isn’t like he has a lack of good pitches either. You either try to use him sparingly in blowouts or you trade him for whatever PTBNL you can get for him.
Now they show Span dropping the ball in the exchange and Gardy getting tossed in the BG Leighton video?
makes it even crappier
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
GB BG whatever
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
They still suck
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen them at O'Gara's a couple times.
They’re not as bad in person. Not great, but not as bad.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
Stupid Detroit.
thank god we’re done for a while after tomorrow.
"A-Rod has that arrogance about him. I’d drill him." -Bert Blyleven
I did say I had a bad feeling about this game in the other post before the game started
I didn’t think it would be like this though
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
I knew this game would suck before the first pitch
Two words. Scott Baker
by Arnidor on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF happened?!?!?!
We we up by 1
I left
I came back and down by 5
man that sucked
Bullpen did bad
Baker did bad
And Mauer needs a day off
Mauer did fine
he hit balls really hard, they just happened to be at people.
Where I am from that is called an out
No matter how hard you hit the ball.
by Arnidor on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomorrow is another day
Still a chance for another series win with C. Pav on the mound! (fingers crossed)
Yep, have to either forget this game or use it for tomorrow
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
Well
I’m gonna chalk this one up as “that one game of the series we lose”
tough game though, I’m still pretty mad
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by thewild_viking_twins on Apr 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
I still want an explanation of that call from the ump
I’d have a few choice words for him
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
Hopefully he gives one after the game.
I’m interested in what bullshit comes out of his mouth.
Good lord, there's a Twins fan out there who thinks the Tigers have a better offense than we do.
Then proceeded to point out our 10 point difference in batting average….
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
my thoughts exactly
unless you were serious, then…another Twins fan stated on another website that the Tigers have a better offense than the Twins and listed our team batting averages to prove it.
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
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