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Minor League Report...May 22, 2010

With 62% of the 163 votes cast, Danny Valencia was selected as last week's Player of the Week. 

The organization again played sub-.500 ball with 12 wins and 15 losses.  While Beloit and New Britain led the way at 4-3, Rochester has now lost five straight as they won only one game this week.  

After spending much of the week in New Britain two weeks ago, Terry Ryan's influence was evident as the Twins made ten moves affecting the Rock Cats roster.  Joe Benson, Estarlin De Los Santos and Chris Parmelee were sent down to Ft. Myers.  Brandon Roberts, Loek VanMil (both were in Ft. Myers on re-hab assignments) and Chris Cates were promoted from the Miracle to New Britain.  The Rock Cats top reliever, Spencer Steedley, was placed on the disabled list.  Toby Gardenhire and Tyler Robertson were promoted to Rochester with Erik Lis moving back to New Britain from the Red Wings who also placed Luke Hughes on the disabled list with a strained left hip flexor.  Many were surprised when Joe Benson moved back to Ft. Myers.  Jim Rantz told Ken Lipshez of the New Britain Herald when asked to comment on the three players going back to Ft. Myers, "Maybe they'll be back up here before too long but for now, we feel they have to re-start."  

In other moves Jeff Manship was promoted to the Twins, making one appearance in Boston before returning to Rochester.  Matt Tolbert was returned to Rochester with Trevor Plouffe making his first appearance with the Twins last night filling Manship's spot on their roster.  Matt Harrington was placed on the restricted list with 50-game suspension.  Seth Stohs reported from Beloit last night that Brian Dozier has moved up to Ft. Myers with Daniel Santana joining the Snappers from EST.  Bruce Pugh may be on the disabled list, however, that move hasn't been listed amongst the official Florida State transactions.  Finally, it was reported in the comment section of this report last week that Brad Tippett and Bobby Lanigan were placed on the 7-day disabled list, however, Tippett appeared in several games this week as a reliever.    

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Rochester Red Wings (AAA) (1-6, 15-27, 6th place, -11.5 games behind Scranton/WB)

The Red Wings have been struggling of late with their only win this week on Sunday against Louisville.  Jeff Manship got the start, pitching 5.1 innings with 7 hits, 3 runs (2 earned) and 5K/4BB.  Tim Lahey came on for 1.2 innings of relief with two strikeouts and no runs, hits or walks to get his second win in three decisions.  The Red Wings were 5-1 losers to Syracuse and Stephen Strasburg on Wednesday night.  Played before the eleventh largest crowd (12,390) in Frontier Field history, Strasburg pitched 6.1 shutout innings with 3 hits, 9 strikeouts and 2 walks.  Strasburg threw 92 pitches with 60 strikes, consistantly hitting 96-97 with four pitches clocked at 99.  Glen Perkins picked up two losses this week, however, last night was his longest outing of the year as he pitched 6.0 innings with 8 hits, 4 runs (3 earned) and 6K/2BB...picking up his sixth loss in six decisions.  Tyler Robertson was very good in his first AAA start on Thursday, pitching 5.0 innings with 6 hits, 3 runs and 6K/2BB in a 4-3 loss to Syracuse.  Mike Maroth and Anthony Swarzak are working on their rehab in Ft. Myers and are certainly needed in Rochester. 

Perkins last outing dropped his ERA to 9.09.  Ryan Mullins continues to lead the staff with 46.1 innings with a 5.05 ERA.  Matt Fox has the best ERA of the starting staff, 3.06.  Kyle Waldrop made two appearances this week, allowing one hit and one walk in 4.2 innings to drop his ERA to 1.47.  Waldrop also has 19 strikeouts and only 5 walks in 19 appearances (30.2 innings).  Cole DeVries was also very good this week, allowing three hits and one unearned run in two appearances (5.0 innings).  Rob Delaney made two appearances without any runs before allowing 3 hits and 2 runs in last night's loss to Syracuse as his ERA moved up to 4.13.

Slama Watch.....Anthony Slama picked up one save in his three outings (3.0 innings) this week.  Slama didn't allow any hits or runs, walking one while striking out three.  Slama now has a 1.78 ERA with his walk ratio dropping to 3.55 per 9 innings (10 walks in 25.1 innings) after allowing only 3 walks in his last ten appearances (11.0 innings).  Slama struck out 11 hitters in his last ten games to give him 29 for the season.

Jose Morales went 3-4 in his first game and is now hitting .367 Average in 30 at bats since returning to the Red Wings from EST.  Dustin Martin continues to be the Red Wings top hitter, .317/.382/.500, which is tenth best in the International League, while his 31 RBI are fifth best in league.  Wilson Ramos continues to struggle at the plate, going 2-26 since his return from the Twins.  After a slow start, Danny Valencia is hitting .315/.333/.411 in 73 at bats this month.  Valencia leads the Red Wings with 14 doubles, however, is still looking for his first home run.  Jacque Jones is hitting .289/.337/.408 while Brock Peterson is hitting .240/.329/.424 with a team best 6 home runs.

Trevor Plouffe is the Red Wings nominee for Player of the Week after a week in which he was 7-19 (.368 Average) with 4 runs scored, 3 doubles and 3 RBI.  To finish off his week, Plouffe got two big hits last night after his promotion to the Twins late Thursday evening.

New Britain Rock Cats (AA) (4-3, 10-29, 6th place, -14.5 games behind New Hampshire)

The Rock Cats responded to the many roster changes with their first winning week of the season.  David Bromberg made two starts, getting the loss on Sunday at Harrisburg when he allowed 4 hits and 2 runs in 5.0 innings.  He returned last night, pitching 6.2 innings with 6 hits, 2 runs and 9K/4BB to even his record at 2-2.  After walking four in the first two innings, he was on his way to an early departure when pitching coach Stu Cliburn talked to him about his composure.  It was reported in the Herald that Cliburn said, "You were the Pitcher of the Year [in the Florida State League] last year.  Go out and show me."  Carlos Gutierrez had an excellent outing in Tuesday's 2-1 loss at Portland when he allowed three hits and two runs (one earned) in 6.0 innings.  Michael McCardell was very good a day later when the Rock Cats won, 4-3, in ten innings after McCardell pitched 5.2 innings with 6 hits and 2 runs. 

Bromberg, who leads the staff with 44.1 innings pitched and 34 strikeouts, has an excellent 3.45 ERA.  Tyler Robertson also had a 3.86 ERA with a 0-3 record in 7 starts (32.2 innings) before moving up to Rochester.  Chris Province has 3 saves with a 5.76 ERA in 18 games (25.0 innings) with 15 strikeouts and 16 walks.  Michael Allen has a 1.23 ERA in his first 4 games (7.1 innings) with the Rock Cats.   

Ben Revere had four multi-hit games for a 9-26 week, getting his average up to .302.  Revere has 13 stolen bases in 17 attempts with only 16 strikeouts and 15 walks in 139 at bats.  Steven Singleton, Yangervis Solarte and Juan Portes all had three multi-hit games while Erik Lis was 6-19 with a home run in his first four games back with the Rock Cats.  Rene Tosoni was 7-20 this week and is now hitting .290/.353/.435 in 138 at bats.

The Rock Cat's top player this week was last year's first round pick, Kyle Gibson.  Gibson pitched 7.1 shutout innings in his first AA start last Saturday with 10 strikeouts and 1 walk in a 6-0 win at Harrisburg.  He returned Thursday when the Cats beat Portland, 6-2.  Gibson pitched 7.0 innings with 4 hits, 2 runs and 6K/2BB to pick up his second win.  Three of the four hits he allowed were to Jacob Ellsbury (2-3 with a double, ground out to second and infield hit) and Mike Cameron (strikeout, ground out to second and double) who were in Portland on re-hab assignments.     

Ft. Myers Miracle (Hi-A) (3-4, 18-23, 5th place, -6.0 games behind Bradenton)

With several starters moving up to New Britain or on the disabled list, Blake Martin made two spot starts this week.  Martin allowed only 1 run in 3.0 innings on Saturday in a 6-5 win versus Bradenton.  Martin returned Thursday in a 7-5 loss to Daytona, pitching 3.2 innings with 7 hits, 7 runs and 3K/2BB.  Liam Hendriks was very good in Monday's 5-2 win versus Clearwater.  Hendriks pitched 6.1 innings with 6 hits, 2 runs and 4K/0BB to pick up his second win with the Miracle.  Michael Tarsi struggled in Sunday's 9-5 loss to Clearwater when he allowed 7 runs (5 earned) in 5.0 innings.  Tarsi returned last night with the best start of the week, pitching 6.0 shutout innings with only 2 hits in a 7-0 win over Daytona.  Brad Tippett pitched 2.0 shutout innings of relief with Andei Lobanov pitching the ninth inning, allowing one walk.  Adrian Salcedo joined the Miracle from EST on Wednesday.  The Miracle lost 6-1 with Salcedo pitching 4.0 innings with 6 hits, 5 runs and 4K/0BB.  Salcedo gave up a lead-off home run in the second inning and went downhill after that to give up four runs before the inning was over.  He was able to return to pitch two more innings with only one more run allowed.  It will be exciting to see if this was a spot start or if Salcedo will remain in Ft. Myers.     

Shooter Hunt struggled in a 2.0 inning appearance last Saturday, allowing 4 runs on no hits, 4 walks, a wild pitch and 2 hit batters.  He returned on Wednesday, pitching 4.0 shutout innings with 1 hit, 2 strikeouts, 3 walks and 1 wild pitch.  Steven Blevins made three more appearances since joining the Miracle earlier this month.  Blevins pitched 6.2 shutout innings with 3 hits and 7K/2BB to keep his ERA at 0.00 in 7.2 innings.  Moscow native Andrei Lobanov maintained his perfect 0.00 ERA since joining the Miracle from EST on May 13th.  Lobanov has appeared in 5 games with 4K/1BB in 4.2 innings.      

Chris Herrmann and Nathan Hanson had two multi-hit games this week.  Herrmann is hitting .256/.316/.355 with a team high 9 doubles while playing left field, center field and catching.  Hanson is hitting .222/.287/.323.  Paul Kelly hasn't played since he was 2-5 last Sunday.  Chris Parmelee was 3-17 and Estarlin De Los Santos was 6-17 since returning from New Britain.

If Joe Benson needed a re-start, that is exactly what he did as he clearly was the Miracle's top player this week.  In five games since his return on Monday, Benson was 9-20 (.450 Average) with 6 runs scored, 3 doubles, 2 home runs, 5 RBI and 2 stolen bases. 

Beloit Snappers (A) (4-3, 25-17, 1st place, +0.5 games over Cedar Rapids)

With their top three starters either on the disabled list (Stuifbergen) or moving on to Ft. Myers (Osterbrock and Hendriks), the Snappers continued to maintain their slim lead in the Western Division of the Midwest League.  Edgar Ibarra was solid in a 4-3 win at Wisconsin last weekend when he allowed 3 runs (2 earned) in 5.0 innings with 3 hits.  He returned last night in a 8-2 loss to Cedar Rapids when Seth Stohs reported that he was much better than his line....5.1 innings, 7 hits, 5 runs (4 earned) with 3K/4BB.  Brad Stillings was very good in Wednesday's 4-2 win over Kane County, pitching 5.1 innings with 4 hits and 2 runs.  Miguel Munoz threw a seven inning complete game shutout on Tuesday, allowing only 3 hits and 3K/2BB.  MIchael Tonkin had an excellent second start against Wisconsin, pitching 7.0 shutout innings with 3 hits and 6K/0BB.   

Munoz leads the staff with 41.2 innings and an excellent 3.24 ERA.  Edgar Ibarra has a 4.06 ERA in 31.0 innings with 29 strikeouts and 16 walks.  Kane Holbrooks has been a reliable closer with a 1.11 ERA and 5 saves in 17 appearances with 35K/5BB.  Jhon Garcia has been nearly perfect since joining the Snappers from EST on May 9th.  Garcia has made five appearances (9.1 innings) with 7 hits, 2 runs (1 earned) and 3K/2BB for a 0.96 ERA.

The Snappers' best hitter the first quarter of this season has been third baseman Anderson Hidalgo.  Hidalgo is hitting .324/.351/.448 with a team high 10 doubles.  Brian Dozier was hitting .278/.347/.338 in 151 at bats with 6 stolen bases in 7 attempts and an equal number of strikeouts and walks, 16.  Angel Morales has the seventh most stolen bases in the league, 13 in 18 attempts, while hitting .248/.325/.380 with a team high 21 RBI.  After hitting for a .164 Average in April, James Beresford is hitting .324/.385/.366 in May.  Aaron Hicks had only one hit in his first 30 at bats, then went on a hot streak to finish April hitting .299/.427/.463 in 67 at bats.  He is now on another cold streak with only 16 hits in 76 at bats this month (.211 Average).  Hicks has tremendous raw tools, however, with 6 stolen bases in 12 attempts and 46 strikeouts in 143 at bats the Twins were correct to send him back to the Midwest League for more seasoning.

The Twins called up B.J. Hermsen from EST to fill one of the vacant spots in their rotation.  Hermsen responded to pitch as well as anyone on the Snapper staff this season.  Making his second start against Kane County on Thursday, Hermsen threw 7.0 innings of shutout ball in a 3-2 Snappers win.  Hermsen allowed 3 hits with 3K/0BB to win his first game in the Snappers best performance of the week.  In two starts, Hermsen has a 0.75 ERA  and 0.75 WHIP in 12.0 innings with 7 hits, 1 run and 5K/2BB.     

Poll
Who is the Twinkie Town Player of the Week?
Trevor Plouffe
49 votes
Kyle Gibson
90 votes
Joe Benson
16 votes
B. J. Hermsen
20 votes

175 votes | Poll has closed

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Waldrop's been better

I think Waldrop is more likely than Slama to jump but I don’t think either show up until September.

by DJL44 on May 22, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Walks no one. Tremendous movement and sink on his fastball. Great numbers. Waldrop has been very impressive. Doesn’t have the strikeous, but the ground balls are huge.

by SethSpeaks on May 26, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I love his approach. He comes right over the top, works out front and gets that good downward plane going.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is Waldrop or Slama

would need to be added to the 40 man. Would they add both?

by b1 on May 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough decisions for Twins.......

Yes, you would consider Slama ready. But the Twins have Condrey and Neshek in the wings. COndrey will need a mroe immediate decision (and who does he bump from the team…probably Burnett, who has performed admirably).

Neshek will get some innings at Ft. Myers, and no doubt will be optioned to Rochester for awhile.

We all talk of Crain being on the bubble. He is, except the Twins are paying him Big Bucks and you can always backend a guy to pitch when the other team bangs out 13 runs to your 3. Duensing sems intact as a lefty and Mijares is showing signs of his old self (come on, did he put all his weight back on with those clubhouse meals)! Mahay, who gets so little and precise work, could be on the bubble.

Doubt that Guerrier or Rauch are going anywhere.

So the Twins do have an embarassment of riches in the bullpen with Crain on the bubble, Burnett being the rookie, and two old vizened veterans that could be replaced as the season ages — Mahay and Condrey (will he pitch/won’t he pitch).

Neshek, Slama, Delaney, Waldrop in the wings, fer sure. Not to mention starter converts Swarzak and Manship still out there. And who knows what riches Gibson will bring to the rotation as the season ends!

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by rosterman on May 22, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure...

whether the statement “it was reported in the comment section of this report last week that Brad Tippett and Bobby Lanigan were placed on the 7-day disabled list, however, Tippett appeared in several games this week as a reliever” is to be read as implying this wasn’t accurate or merely that "Tippet was indeed DLd “however” he is now back from the DL.

They were both indeed DLd if we are to believe the official Ft. Myers Miracle website (article linked). Tippett didn’t pitch from the 2nd to the 18th, and presumably the DL was retroactive (assuming retroactive DLing works in MiLB as it does in MLB).

I have to believe Kyle Waldrop may well be a better 0 or 1 out men-on-base high-leverage RH bullpen option than anyone on the Twins staff with the possible exception of Rauch. GB induction is key there, and no one else is even in his league assuming a reasonable level of carry-over to MLB.

Looking forward beyond this season, I am very curious whether there’s been any thought in the front office to getting him back into a starting role since his surgery. His numbers are crazy good and show the steady improvement you like to see two years removed from injury. If he’s full strength and has this kind of stuff, is it crazy to consider him in a starting role, or does he lack the pitches for that (thus the improvement focusing on his good pitches as a reliever)?

by tobynotjason on May 22, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Last year there was a report

That he only has two quality pitches so they have kept him in the bullpen

by clutterheart on May 22, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So..

kinda of like Swarzak. ha

by Kyleb_82 on May 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has there ever been any serious discussion about moving Plouffe to second?

JJ Hardy is going to be our shortstop for a while, and it certainly seems like he’s ready to contribute soon.

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann

by John Veldhuis on May 22, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Hardy have another arbitration year?

He’s already had 3 years of arbitration, but his MLB service time won’t be 5 years yet by the end of the season. Not sure how that works. If he gets expensive, he’s not necessarily “our shortstop for a while.” Plouffe could also presumably fill in at 3rd if he has the arm for SS.

by tobynotjason on May 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll be around for one more year at least

The nice thing is if he ends up having a good rest of the year the Twins could probably sign him to a backloaded extension as Cuddy and Nathan come off the books after 2011 and Kubel will likely be gone after 2011 as well.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 22, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is the question...

JJ Hardy does have another year of arbitration left, but the Twins aren’t obligated in any way to keep him. Could trade him. Could non-tender him. If they believe Plouffe can take over and save them $6.5 million in 2011, has to be considered. That said, Plouffe and Hughes could be playing for 2B in 2011 too.

by SethSpeaks on May 24, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has

Plouffe ever played 2b?

by clutterheart on May 24, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He played 20 games at second for the Redwings in 2008

I’m also willing to bet that he played at second sometime during his little league career.

by 2wins87 on May 25, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just meant we had control over him for another year.

I believe he’ll be with the Twins next year but depending on how the rest of the season goes you’re absolutely right. If the Twins think Plouffe is ready they might explore a trade or even non-tender if it means they can bring in another player. I like the idea of Plouffe and Hughes tag teaming 2B / utility for the Twins next year w/ Hardy at SS and Valencia at 3B.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 24, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

They would never nontender Hardy

He’s too good for that.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on May 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yah you're probably right

even if his bat doesn’t return to pre 2009 ability we now see how good his defense is.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perkins

After spending the first month and a half either pouting or hurt, it’s worth noting that Perkins last start was actually pretty good. He faced 25, striking out 6 and walking 2. 12 of 17 balls in play were groundballs. Not only is this is an improvement, this is actually quite solid. It would quite a bonus at this point if Perkins ends up being worth something, whether to the ballclub as a player or as tradebait.

by tobynotjason on May 22, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe that the Twins need Perkins to start pitching better...

…and getting to where he is consistantly pitching 6-7 innings with 1-2-3 earned runs by the first of July. As everyone approaches the trading deadline, there has to be some team in contention somewhere will need a lefty with starting experience. To me, that is when they should be able to get the most for him.

Because he needs only something like 7 days service time this year to go to arbitration next winter, pitching well the next six weeks should earn him between a half million and a million dollars extra next winter. Hopefully, he understands this and will get it done!

by roger13 on May 22, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perk can pout all he wants

like roger13 stated he needs to pitch well for his own good now. A month and a half into the season he knows he’s not going to be traded and he’s not going to get called up pitching like crap. Time to suck-it-up Perk. Pitch well and get traded, go to arbitration. Or, you can keep pouting, suck and loose money in arbitration.

by b1 on May 22, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might be a month or two early

but I’d like to see Slama as the 8th inning guy. Put Guerrier back to the 7th. Let Neshek pitch some 8th too.

by b1 on May 22, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the report Roger

Nice to see Valencia starting to heat up

Free Anthony Slama

by ajmargarine on May 22, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Dozier to FTM

thats fine with me but, Thompson and Kelly have not played in a long time. What’s going on. The whole roster is infielders. It would have made more sence to bring up Liddle to play outfield

by b1 on May 22, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

injured

I’m sure people will be shocked to hear that Drew Thompson (hamstring) and Paul Kelly (wrist) are hurt.

by SethSpeaks on May 24, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revere

Is on his way to adjusting to AA and hitting the crap out of the ball. Does he make it to AAA this year?

by clutterheart on May 23, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd say yes but the question is

who would they drop to make room for him? Jones,Dinkelman,Martin,Repko or do they drop Gardy Jr. or Macri? they need room for Tosoni and singleton too, by years end.

by b1 on May 23, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll say no

AAA only by the end of the year. People here get excited and think a player should be promoted any time they have a hot streak. Leave him in AA. Let him consolidate his game while working on his defense and driving the ball to the gap.

by DJL44 on May 23, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cliburn was on the Radio

with Ruesse and Mackey on Friday and one thing he said about Revere is he has to learn the strike zone. He swings at balls and is overanxious at times. And almost all his hits are singles. It would be nice to see him hit more doubles.

This said, I’d like to see him spend the entire year there. I don’t see a need to bring him up to AAA. Next year, assuming he improves at the plate and field, he can be called up in a moments notice.

by Kyleb_82 on May 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do..

if you go to the “Listen” tab, then go to “On Demand”.
http://1500espn.com/ondemand/

They’ve done a better job of habing these actually work of late. Although I have trouble the the “Hour 2” tab on the shows the same day the audio was put on. Seems like I usually have to wait till the next day to listen to that part.

by Kyleb_82 on May 23, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with 'no'

He needs to stay in AA. Lots of areas for improvement. He may still be the guy added if Span had to ever go on the DL (I’d currently say probably Repko) whether he is at AA or AAA. So, let him stay at the same level and be comfortable and keep working on those things (strike zone judgment, patience, defense, arm, etc.).

by SethSpeaks on May 24, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at Twinkie Town's Top 50

I’d say we did a nice job. Out of the top 25 players Parmelee is the only one not playing well. Morales could pick it up a little and I think Benson is fine, he’s finding his power. Out of the next 25. Fox could jump up a couple spots and DeLosSantos could drop along with Tootle. Lanigan and Lobanova could move-up and Bashore and a couple GCL players have yet to play. What do you think?

by b1 on May 23, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's early

But Kyle Gibson is probably #1 next year

by DJL44 on May 23, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

In general, we did a good job...

…but there also were some glaring mistakes. I recall every time I had Jeff Manship and Alex Burnett on the ballot towards the end of the top 10, they couldn’t get enough votes until finally ranking #18 and #17, respectively. Personally, I think Manship should have gone towards the end of the top 10. I think we knew last fall that there was a high probability that Manship will have a solid career as a #3-#4 major league starter.

Burnett could have been as high as fifth and certainly should have gone in the top ten. I know I had Burnett ranked as the Top pitcher in the organization last year, so his success isn’t a surprise to me although I didn’t expect him to be with the Twins to start the year.

Personally, I also have a hard time putting someone like Sano in the number one slot considering that the minor league seasons are nearly a third over and he has yet to play his first professional game. I also don’t disagree with DJL44 below, that as of now Gibson is on track to be #1 next winter, assuming he still has rookie status!

by roger13 on May 23, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revere

Revere continues to pound 3/4 today average up to .324 now. 15 stolen bases on the season now. Fastest guy in org.

Carlos Gutteriez got the win

7.2 innings
7 hits
2 er
4k’s

15-3 ground ball to flyout ratio….He’s a serious ground ball pitcher dang!

I think he will make a good mid to back end rotatoin guy. I think his ceiling is higher than blackburn.

by hotshotschamp on May 23, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Gutierrez

They’ll probably move Gutierrez to the bullpen. He’s just in the rotation to work on his secondary pitches..

by kcoryell on May 23, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gutierrez

I just posted this on my blog, but I think it’s noteworthy:

• Carlos Gutierrez improved to 1-3 with a 3.75 ERA. In his first start of the season, he gave up four runs in four innings. In his April 24th start, he gave up eight runs in four innings. In his seven other starts, he has given up two or less runs.

by SethSpeaks on May 24, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Need a friendly competition

Gibson and Gutierrez should have a friendly wager as to which one can give up the fewest flyballs.

by DJL44 on May 24, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Benson was the org pick this week

Rantz said Benson could be back to AA in a month.

by DJL44 on May 23, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Theories on organizational strength

Roger,
Last year after some critics bashed the strength of the Twins’ system you retorted that the win-loss records of these clubs belied that line of thinking. Yet this year the organization is off to a horrible start in terms of wins and losses in the minor leagues. What explains this? Were the critics right? Or is this year a fluke?

Can we judge an organization’s minor leagues through wins and losses?

by wcooley on May 24, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats an interesting question...

…Our strength last year was in the lower levels (DSL-GCL-Appy) with a very strong Ft. Myers team with New Britain making the playoffs. Overall, the organization had a very good winning percentage.

One could argue that you could have teams with poor records, yet, have two three great prospects on each team. That line of thinking could mean a poor won-loss record, yet strong in the sense of developing stars that eventually help the big league club.

With Beloit’s weakness last year, Ft. Myers record was to be expected. The big surprise is how poorly New Britain has done with a combination of several solid players from last year’s team (Portes, McCardell, Tosoni, Robbins (injured), and Gutierrez) plus the nucleus of the Miracle team moving up. On paper, this is a great lineup. Jim Rantz talked about the jump to AA as being the biggest jump. AA is also difficult for teams with younger, inexperienced players. We would feel a lot different if New Britain was winning. Beloit is doing well, which was expected with the GCL-Elizabethton records from last year.

Will see how it shakes out, but right now the critics certainly do look like they may be proven right.

by roger13 on May 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't judge organizational strength by wins and losses

A team can have a lot of organizational players who are old for their level and win a lot. Another team can be full of young prospects and lose a lot. I think the Twins try to balance those two things. It’s not always easy. But winning is not a very good indicator of organizational strength.

I think the average age at AA has increased over the last few years, so that jump has gotten tougher. It’s no longer the young league were all the pitchers throw hard. Most of the guys are 24 or 25. All the pitchers have good breaking stuff, even if they can’t always get it over.

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by cmathewson on May 24, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

AA closer to AAA?

If the jump from A to AA has become more difficult then the jump from AA to the majors is probably less difficult. It is a good thing for MLB to have a strong AA and AAA to draw from.

by DJL44 on May 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just checked...

…The Rock Cats are the youngest team in the Eastern League, about a year younger (23.3) than the average. That may explain some of the problem.

by roger13 on May 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Nice nugget. That makes some sense then.

by Kyleb_82 on May 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Informative stat. Funny, considering the Twins are rarely accused of rushing prospects.

by wcooley on May 24, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ft. Myers and Beloit...

…are within a month or two of the league average. CMath may have hit it on the head when he talked abou the Eastern League getting older rather than the Twins rushing younger players. Unfortunately, that makes it tougher for New Britain to compete when they are stocked with younger guys playing their first year of AA while playing teams with alot of AA veterans.

by roger13 on May 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This could

Be solved if the twins signed some quality minor league FA at AAA. Rochester needs more guys like Jones, Repko and less guys like Gardenhire. Maybe some more guys like Henn, and not Layhey

by clutterheart on May 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question CMath...

….Which would you rather have, a) an organization with seven teams that wins five division titles with maybe ten top prospects in the entire organization; or b) an organization that wins maybe one division title with four or five teams with losing records, but they have two or three top prospects at each level…just not as good players surrounding them?

by roger13 on May 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you asked CMath this

but I would go for option “b.” A couple high-ceiling guys at each level are more valuable than a stable of above-average organzational fillers with little chance at making an MLB impact. But who knows who is a top prospect and who is filler?

by wcooley on May 24, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

In the past three years (I think it was 2008), the Twins had five teams in the playoffs at the end of the year. But they had only four or five high-ceiling guys. Most of the talent that was not in the majors was above average. Not much of it was stellar.

This year, they might only have two or three teams in the playoffs (Beloit, E-Ton and GCL Twins) yet they have at least a dozen high-ceiling guys in the org, and another dozen who have major league futures. It is much stronger now than it was in 2008.

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by cmathewson on May 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't count out Rochester Yet

Have you seen the way they have pounded out the hits of late. Get Perk out of the rotation and that Team is the best we’ve got.

by b1 on May 24, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're probably right

The two best hitters are slated for the majors, though (Valencia and Morales).

I do think they’ll be better as they straighten out their pitching.

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by cmathewson on May 24, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ a billion

Wins and Losses mean very little or nothing in judging the organization’s strength. I think since a couple of years ago, when the agreement stated that teams retained control of a player for another year before needing to make a decision on whether to add them to the 40 man roster has created this increased age at AA. Look at the Twins. Guys like Parmelee and Benson don’t have to even be added to the 40 man until after the 2010 season, and then they get three years of options. But that extra year allows them to be more patient with them.

by SethSpeaks on May 26, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guerra's line tonight

7IP, 6H, 2R, 2ER, 2BB 5K

He gave up 2 runs right off the bat and held them scoreless the rest of the way. 95 Pitches, 59 for strikes.

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by cmathewson on May 24, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

and the Wings still lost

Armando Gabino got the Save he is having a nice year.

by clutterheart on May 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

salcedo

5 innings
5 hits
2 run
1 er
3bb
3k’s

He gave up as many walks tonight as all of last year, all came in first 2 innings, then he found his groove. Defense behind him was shaky. All in all he pitched well though and his curve ball sounds like a plus pitch.

by hotshotschamp on May 24, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised

at how many week hitters we have at all the levels, except Rochester. Beloit is winning with pitching, they have 4 hitters right now the rest or sucking. Ft.Myers IMHO needs to drop 3 infielder and 2 outfielder off the roster. They are just filling spots, but suck. Thompson and Kelly please get better. New Britian needs to play the hot hitters, sit Portes for a while. Lis and Robberts with Rever and Tosoni need to get hot. The good thing is there is still time to turn it around. Thank God for ggod pitching.

by b1 on May 25, 2010 6:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Part of it is the run scoring environment

It is spring and the minors haven’t been producing a lot of offense. Still….

Team rank in hitting (OPS)

Rochester 7th of 14
New Britain 10th of 12
Ft Myers 11th of 12
Beloit 15th of 16

by DJL44 on May 25, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Like I said Thank God – for good pitcdhing

by b1 on May 25, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

That does not bode well for the future. Hopefully Keppler and Sano can hit

by clutterheart on May 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revere and de Los Santos were injured...

…in last night’s game. Revere suffered an ankle injury. de Los Santos pulled a hamstring legging out a double. Revere was 2-5 with 2 runs scored and a stolen base before leaving late in the game that New Britain won in 10 innings, 8-7. de Los Santos was 2-3 with a double and RBI.

I don’t know how serious both injuries are and whether or not they will go on the DL.

by roger13 on May 25, 2010 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Roger do you know much about de Los Santos?

The Twins putting him on the 40 man roster last year puzzled me. They must have seen something they really liked to put him on the roster over guys like Singleton. I don’t know hardly anything about him, other then he’s fast and has an allegedly outstanding arm.

by kcoryell on May 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

de los santos

looks to be taking the same route as D. Romero.

by b1 on May 25, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

De Los Santos being added to the 40-man roster...

…was surprising to most fans. The Twins must have believed that there was a higher probability of losing De Los Santos in the Rule V draft than either Singleton or Dinkelman. Perhaps they were right as neither Singleton or Dinkelman was lost. On the other hand, they could have kept Steve Tolleson rather than exposing him to waivers where he was claimed by Oakland. Tolleson is hitting over .300 in the PCL while being up with the A’s for a few games.

As for De Los Santos, he does have good speed and has hit reasonably well. The biggest problem last year was that he missed much of the season with injuries. And yes, he is considered one of the better defensive shortstops in the organization. As for being added to the 40-man roster, consider me amongst those who are puzzled by that move.

by roger13 on May 25, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Nobody would have taken him via rule V if they did, he would not have stuck

by clutterheart on May 26, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it didn't make sense

I would rather have had Tolleson.

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

OR anyone else

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 26, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor League portion

Would the Twins feel that they might lose him in the minor league portion of the draft, perhaps…so that’s why they protected him?

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by rosterman on May 26, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then protect him from the minor league portion by moving him to Rochester...

…The only thing I can see is that, 1) they really like him as a prospect; and 2) their scouts believed that some team would take him. I don’t know, but I suspect their scouts hear things and management has some idea of which players specific teams are interested in. They must have thought some other team was very high on De Los Santos.

by roger13 on May 27, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Twins wanted both Revere and Benson to get a lot of innings in CF.

Or, maybe they wanted to see what they have with Brandon Roberts before the 2011 season (does he need to be added to the 40-man roster next year?).

Or, other.

by benhertz on May 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

surprises

Good- Solarte,Pugh,Rohlfing,Dozier,Holbrooks,Hildalgo,Fox,Lanigan. Bad- Province,Parmelee,Bigley,Ramos,Perkins,Portes,Cates. Feel free to add a player or comment on the first month and a half stats.

by b1 on May 25, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

adding a few

good- Gibson, Bromberg, Waldrop not as big of a surprise but still better than I thought
also, Michael Tonkin
bad- Angel Morales, Aaron Hicks(to a lesser degree), ESTARLIN de los santos, Joe Testa

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 25, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So when does Gibson go to AAA?

I’m not for rushing a guy but he is absolutely dominating AA, with the only two runs coming mostly from the combination of two major league hitters (Ellsbury, Cameron) who were on a rehab assignment. Here’s Gibson’s stat line through 3 starts

3-0 20/2 K/BB ratio, 76% GB rate, 15 hits, .84 ERA in 21.1 innings.

so how much longer does he need to keep it up? 2, 3 more starts? more?

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 26, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I say three more starts

He’s certainly not doing himself any harm facing AA hitters, who aren’t much below AAA hitters.

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

He isn't on the 40 man, is he?

I’m guessing we won’t see him this year, unless three of the Twins starters go down with injuries or with suck, all in the next couple of months. I would think they would want to limit his innings, he’s coming off of an injury and the college season is much shorter. Also there’s the roster issue, surely they’d add Slama to the 40 man roster before Gibson, right? I’m not saying I don’t want to see Gibson this year, I think everybody does, but it’s unlikely, and it’s probably best long term we wait until next year.

by kcoryell on May 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'll see him this year

But here’s a scenario where it would make sense. Say he continues to pitch like this in AA and AAA for a dozen starts. And say one of the Twins starters goes down with an injury. Also suppose no other starter in the organization warrants a call up ahead of him (Manship, Guerra, Gutierrez, Swarzak, etc.) Then he would be a good choice to pick up some starts. If so, he would need to be added to the 40 man. Because the Twins are more thin in bullpen help than starters, I think they’ll add Slama to the 40 man before they add Gibson. But there’s a chance they add Gibson first.

The main thing keeping him from a meaningful role this year is innings. He only threw something like 100 innings last year because of the stress fracture. The Twins are careful to limit the percentage increase in innings from one year to the next to less than 30%. When he gets to the 130 inning mark, I could see them moving him to the bullpen, as they have with Gutierrez the last two years. If he keeps pitching like this, he’ll hit 130 innings before September.

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think the Twins will wait

until he reaches the 130 inning point (if that’s accurate) to move him to the bullpen or will they do it a ways ahead of that point so he ends up around 130?

by Kyleb_82 on May 26, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

The target should be around 130. That might be somewhat flexible depending on how much he labors in this starts.

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let him beat Binghamton

New Hampshire is probably the best hitting team in AA and he dominated them last night. Binghamton is another good hitting AA team and they’re in early June.

by DJL44 on May 26, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revere played in both games of yesterday's double header...

…although he was removed from game one after two at bats. In the nightcap, the Rock Cats beat New Hampshire, 2-1, behind a seven inning complete game by Kyle Gibson. Gibson allowed 7 hits and one unearned run to go with four strikeouts and no walks to pick up his third AA win in three starts. Jair Fernandez moved up to New Britain, although it is unclear if de Los Santos has been placed on the DL.

by roger13 on May 26, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Morales

The FO seem they don’t what him at FTM. Goncalves,Benson and Santana are the only outfielders. Goncalves has only played GCL and Santana is an infield transfer who played at Beloit with Morales last year. Why woun’t they move Morales to FTM????

by b1 on May 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would they?

He’s just 20 years old, no reason to rush. He’s been striking out at an almost 30 percent clip at Low A and has a .740 OPS. It’s not like he’s tearing up the league by any stretch of the imagination.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 26, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess my point is that

the FO seem to be going out of its way not to advance him ( FTM is shy on outfielders) I get your point but I’ve read that the Coaching is better at Home base FTM. Do you think the are playing Morales against Hicks or keeping them together for another reason. Two year at a low level for a top prospect is odd.

by b1 on May 26, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll get advanced after the draft

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hicks & Morales

You think they both get promoted to Ft Myers after the draft or minor league all star break? What do you think happens to the current outfield – anybody get released?

by bballfan on May 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harrington would be my guess

And I expect Benson to be up in New Britain by then.

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by cmathewson on May 26, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think it's a travesty that he's still in Low A

You’re right though 2 years at Low A did seem odd to start the season but so far both Hicks and Morales look like they could use time there. I’d like to see them both up to Ft. Myers by the halfway point. Then next year the same thing, start in High A hopefully move up to AA by midway 2011

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on May 26, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wonder if Morales

would do better in Ft.Myers. I think he would. Plus the guys their are no better then him. Better pitching some times leads to better hitting. I think he’s stuck in Beloit and a change would do him good. Better compitition and better players around him.

by b1 on May 27, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll get there

Sometimes there are reasons beyond numbers that hold guys back. Maybe he’s regularly missing the cut-off guy. Maybe he’s swinging hard at every pitch, when they want him to dial it down in certain situations. Maybe he’s having particular difficulty with a certain pitch. He’s young enough that he could spend the entire year in the Midwest League if he’s got stuff to work on.

I don’t think that’ll happen. I think he’ll be up there by the end of June.

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by cmathewson on May 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Glen Perkins read Twinkie Town?

…He must, as he responded with a solid start last night in Rochester’s 4-3 win against the Durham Bulls. Perkins pitched 5.2 innings with 4 hits, 3 runs, 9 strikeouts and 3 walks. 61 of 96 pitches were strikes as Perkins left the game one out short of a quality start. Good game Glen!

by roger13 on May 28, 2010 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

9 Ks is encouraging

Maybe he’s finally getting his velocity back.

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by cmathewson on May 28, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly why you don't just dump talented players for no reason

It doesn’t hurt anyone except the fans in Rochester to let Perkins rehab there all year long.

by DJL44 on May 28, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

someone will take a chance

on him as the year goes on. What will we get or need. A AA-shotstop (need)

by b1 on May 28, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know

But you can never have enough scrappy little middle infielders

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by cmathewson on May 28, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest hole in this org is right-handed power bats at the higher levels

Valencia, Ramos, Plouffe, Hughes, Peterson, Portes, Benson, Hicks, Morales, Hidalgo, Rams, Sano

I probably missed some guys. Most of those guys are gap power guys, or they’re a few years away. I could see trying to get an outfielder with right-handed power for AA. Someone in the mold of Austin Kearns. Then again, maybe you just call up Benson.

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by cmathewson on May 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love

A right handed power hitting 3B
Even if he is a rental I would still take him.

by clutterheart on May 29, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because someone always mentions trades like this:

Obviously we trade Perkins, Tolbert, and Harris for Cliff Lee

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by what_would_gil_thorp_do on May 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

no Casilla?

come on, man! If we are going to trade our “stars”, we must trade Casilla too!

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by BCTwins on May 30, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Benson has cooled off some.

Benson last 6 games: 4H 2BB 8K’s. Batting .277/.346/.617 and .963 OPS since his demotion.

Parmelee’s last 6: 13H 2BB 4K’s. Batting .357/.438/.548 and .984 OPS since his demotion

I know Joe has gotten the hype but I’d say Chris is doing just as well.

by Kyleb_82 on May 28, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they are

working on his swing to generate more power. More power often leads to more K’s. That’s the trade-off

by b1 on May 29, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember.....

They dropped abck down a level.

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