On Futility: Drew Butera
Much was made of the Twins' lineup yesterday against Atlanta, which featured Nick Punto hitting leadoff, followed by Trevor Plouffe in the 2-hole. With Brendan Harris hitting eighth and Drew Butera batting ninth, the Twins had a run of four hitters who were batting a combined .182. Awful, by any imagination.
Much has been made of Punto's struggles at the plate, of course, and Harris is hitting .160 now and heading for a permanent bench spot. Plouffe is 3-for-23 at the plate in his limited action. But with all this in mind, I want to spare a word for Butera.
Now, very little was expected out of Butera this season. He's with the big club because Jose Morales is still on his way back from an injury (and is hitting just .252 at Rochester), and because Wilson Ramos needs to play more often than he would as a backup catcher, and because Butera's defense is better than either one of those two candidates.
Still, though, Butera is sitting on five major league hits in 39 plate appearances, and is batting .135. That's impressively bad - which of course, got me looking through the historical records. And here's what I found: Butera has a chance to go down in history as one of the five worst-hitting Twins catchers of all time.
Let's run down the current worst five seasons by a Twins catcher, using 40 plate appearances as a baseline.
- Danny Ardoin, 2000 - Remember 2000? Ardoin wasn't the only stopgap at catcher that season - Chad Moeller, Marcus Jensen, and Matthew LeCroy all played at least 40 games behind the plate, and not one hit better than .211. Ardoin, though, was the worst; he got four hits in 40 plate appearances for a sparkling .125 average (though somehow he walked eight times, as well.)
- Ron Henry, 1964 - Henry played only 42 major league games, split between 1961 and 1964 with the Twins. In 1964, he got five hits in 41 plate appearances and batted .122, though amazingly, he had a double, a triple, and two home runs.
- Jerry Zimmerman, 1968 - Zimmerman spent 1962-68 with the Twins, and was mostly valuable for his defense - a good thing, considering he hit .204 for his career. In 1968, he was on his way out; he played in just 24 games, and managed five hits in 50 plate appearances. He not only hit just .111, with only one double, his slugging percentage was an anemic .133.
- Orlando Mercado, 1989 - Mercado was almost the definition of a journeyman; he played for eight different teams in eight seasons, including two stops where he played fewer than ten games for a team. In 1989, he hit .296 for Triple-A Portland - but posted just four hits in limited duty with the big club, for a .105 batting average. Given that he was a .199 career hitter in the majors, this is hardly surprising.
- Tom Nieto, 1988 - In 1987 and 1988, Nieto played early in the season for the Twins, went to the minors for the bulk of the year, then came back up in September when rosters expanded. He was never a good hitter, batting .205 for his career, but in 1988 he was as close to an automatic out as you're ever likely to see in the big leagues. He went to the plate 62 times for the Twins that year, in which time he managed to reach base six times - four singles, a walk, and a hit by pitch. Given that he also hit into two double plays, he was very close to being responsible for more outs than he had plate appearances, which would be an impressive feat. Nieto's line for the year read .067 / .097 / .067 - surely the worst line we'll ever see.
Butera's gone 0-for-3 in each of his last three games. One more of those will put him at .125 for the season - down in Ardoin territory. If Morales or Ramos eventually replaces him, Butera can take heart - he'll at least go down in the books, in one way or another.
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You forgot one noteable guy
Corky “Corky” Miller hit .000. He only was given 12 at bats. Struck out three times and barely got the ball out of the infield otherwise. Butera is in that class.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I went with a minimum 40 plate appearances.
Just to eliminate the Corky Millers of the world. :-)
by Jon Marthaler on Jun 14, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Harris is the worst
I don’t understand why Brendan Harris is still on this team. His role is supposed to be the same as Nick Punto’s with less defense and better hitting. However, he’s been way worse than Punto at the plate this year. IMO, he’s a complete waste of a roster spot at this point. At least Butera fills a needed role (backup catcher). There is absolutely no need to keep Harris on our MLB roster.
-Flip
Back up CF?
Why not ditch Harris and go get someone who can actually play CF behind Span. No, Cuddy can’t do that. I’d much rather have another Jason Tyner than Brendan Harris this year.
-Flip
Jason Repko
He’d be a perfect fit as an extra outfielder. In the process, I wouldn’t have to see Cuddyer in center again.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Irrationality
I realize Repko is younger and has been better so far this year in Rochester, but I’d still kinda like the backup CF callup to be Jacque Jones. Perhaps all this talk about Danny Ardoin and Corky Miller has made me sentimental for the early ’00s.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Brendan Harris does absolutely nothing.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 14, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Contract
I can’t imagine there’s much other reason for him to be on the roster than his $3m contract extension in the off-season. It’s not a lot of money, but I imagine there’s some stubbornness in releasing a guy with a new contract vs. releasing a guy who doesn’t have one.
Mike Lamb
They DFAed him with more than twice the money left on a two-year deal.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Roster construction
Harris is basically an extra guy. So he can leave asap, and we can get another outfielder instead (Jones, Repko, heck even Martin).
Punto should just be a utility player. His performance this weekend should once and for all put all thoughts of him being an everyday player to rest.
When Hudson gets back, Tolbert should go back to Rochester.
Plouffe is a stop gap until Hardy comes back.
Hopefully Morales comes up to take Butera’s place. The end result is what most of us have been arguing for all year:
Starters:
1. Span CF
2. Hudson 2B
3. Mauer C
4. Morneau 1B
5. Cuddyer RF
6 Kubel DH
7 Young LF
8 Hardy SS
9 Valencia 3B
Bench
Thome DH
Punto IF
Morales C
Jones/Repko/Martin OF
That’s a team that should run away with the division with our pitching.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
If Hudson isn't ready to play until the road trip,
we should call up Jones. We could start Cuddyer at 2nd base for a couple games, send Tolbert down, and start Jones in RF. Once we’re on the road in IL play, Jones is a pinch-hitter off the bench. Eventually, Repko needs to be/will be on the roster. Gardy wants 14 position players for IL anyways. Even if Tolbert doesn’t go down, either Repko/Jones has to get the call.
Cuddyer is not a second baseman
He hasn’t played second regularly for four years. He looked like a quarter horse at an equestrian event out there.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I wanted that line-up in April
As far as Butera goes, well Morales is healthy. Sooo, is it the FO or Gardy that keeps Butera in Minn not Rochester. I’ve got a bad feeling Valencia is going down leaving Punto at 3B, Plouffe at SS and Tolbert at 2B or Harris at 3B and Punto at 2B.
by b1 on Jun 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're waiting on Morales to improve is CS percent before they bring him up.
Or at least thats what I’m telling myself.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 14, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Butera should be in New Britain
Its only because of a fluke of injuries and developmental concerns that he ever made the MLB roster.
Then Gardy fell in love with his defense
But what’s the staff ERA when he catches? Over 5 I think.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I agree completely
But wouldn’t two or three games with him at second look a lot better than the lineups we used over the weekend? Obviously he is not a long-term answer, but if it takes Hudson until Friday in Philly to be ready, can’t we put Cuddyer there for at least two games during the Rockies series? The way Tolbert/Punto have been kicking it around over the past week isn’t much worse than what Cuddyer would provide.
Release Mahay
Bring up Repko. Go with 11 pitchers until the infield is healthy. The 3rd lefty in the bullpen is redundant, especially when he isn’t very good.
+1
What’s the point of having a (3rd) lefty specialist when he can’t get leftys out?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 14, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's been good against lefties. He just isn't good against rightes, but Gardy keeps using him for both.
vs. lefties: 9 IP, 7 hits, 1 BB, 7 K’s, .212 BAA
vs. righties: 8 IP, 10 hits, 4 BB, 10 K’s, .286 BAA
I’d like less hits vs. lefties, but really it’s not that bad. He needs to be a lefty specialist only, but he hasn’t been. I agree though, no point in keeping him when we have two other guys.
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
I agree but the Twins FO seems to take a lot longer to figure this stuff out than the fans
Look at 2008 for instance. Liriano was pitching brilliantly in AAA for months before he was finally called up on August 1st. If he had been brought to the big leagues sooner, maybe we wouldn’t have needed the 163rd game (which we lost) to try to clinch the division. And there are similar examples every year of the FO hanging on to poorly performing players too long or avoiding bringing up talented, producing players in the minors.
This year, we all know that Crain, Mahay, Harris, Butera, and Tolbert should not be on this team. I also am not a big fan of Casilla being on the team (I noticed you left him off), but the Twins will probably hang on to him too long when he does come back from injury. In addition, I would be shocked if the Twins actually benched Punto (even though I agree that his role should be as a utility player, not a starter). The Twins’ whole philosophy revolves around pitching and defense with far less emphasis on finding players whose offensive skills outweigh the defensive skills of their current players (specifically Punto and Butera). That’s why I don’t think the Twins will make a trade to address the offensive ineptitude on the left side of the infield. Both Punto and Hardy are good defenders, in spite of their offensive flaws.
I would say
The Twins are patient to a fault. Many times, being patient is the way to go. Sometimes quick action is required. We are talking about the fringes of the roster and any move that costs the loss of a player could be a mistake.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 14, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Name one
We’ve let lots of players go, only one has gone on to do well that I know G. Jones with Pitt.
by b1 on Jun 14, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Casey Blake
That was the big mistake. When you don’t have anyone solid at 3B you start hoarding crap.
That was 8yrs ago, Okay 2 guys in 8yrs
We had Koskie at the time.
by b1 on Jun 14, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He never really got much playing time at the big-league level until 2003
I’m specifically referring to guys who we have seen play for a couple months in the big-leagues, not September call-ups who appear in a handful of games. Was it a mistake not to give Blake much time at the big-league level? Maybe, but we had good reason to believe that Koskie was the third-baseman of the future. My gripe is that players like Tolbert who has had significant playing time with the Twins the past few years and has done nothing to show he can be a productive player at the major-league level continue to get chance after chance when logic says nothing is going to change.
I feel like Hardy still has a chance to be a productive offensive player
Its just unfortunate that he’s had to deal with the wrist thing, which is another discussion of the Twins’ medical failings all together.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 14, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't
He is a low-average hitter with an occasional burst of power. Would I rather have him in the starting lineup than Punto? Sure, but that is only because Punto has absolutely no power whatsoever.
Well, even if we disagree on his offensive value
His defense is phenomenal.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 14, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It's good
But I wouldn’t say phenominal. Though he has excellent range, he’s still somewhat error prone, as we saw this past weekend. He takes unnecessary risks and it sometimes burns him and the team. The last time I saw a guy make two errors that lead to five unearned runs was Danny Thompson.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
He meant Hardy, not Punto.
His defense is phenomenal.
They were talking about Hardy there. I agree with your assessment of Punto’s defense overall, but he has been very good defensively at third. If Hardy and Hudson come back and Punto takes over third, I could live with that.
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 15, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
concur
I’m still not on the Valencia train, but I’m all for giving him a real shot at proving himself, and me wrong.
by Milt on Tilt on Jun 14, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Valencia 8 for 28 .286 Punto 29 for 131 .221
Valencia 8k’s Punto 28K’s
by b1 on Jun 14, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
b1
no offense, but please do a little research on a thing called small sample size. Sometimes abbreviated as SSS. I am one of the world’s worst when it comes to numbers and statistics, so please understand I am not trying to be critical. But attempting to make a definitive statement about someone from 28 plate appearances is just not defensible.
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I made no Statement!!!
I left that to the reader! I just posted the number. I didn’t say which player I liked. You must have read something into simple numbers. Anyone can see that this is a small sample size.
That's about my attitude
I think Punto might actually be the better 3rd base starter, but Punto will have plenty of chances to play as the utility guy.
Agree all the way
I’d prefer Repko, who is a RH hitter and a true CF.
by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Jun 14, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Instead of Jones/Repko/Martin, how about Jermaine Dye?
He could also pinch-hit for Kubel against lefties. (I thought I’d give Mike Lowell a rest and bring up another all-bat, no-glove old dude.)
They don't pinch-hit for Kubel
They pinch-hit for Tolbert and Harris. Jermaine Dye makes sense on quite a few teams but not the Twins.
Don't doesn't mean they shouldn't
668 career OPS versus lefties. He’s Nick Punto versus lefties.
triple negative?
nice.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any of us." - Kirby Puckett
All-bat, no-glove old dudes
Can the team really have two on the roster when they’re operating with a four-man bench? I know, Dye can theoretically fill in in the outfield, but I was under the impression that he’s been so bad the last few years that giving Thome a glove is a better option. If they were to do this, they’d need a very quick trigger when sending guys to the disabled list.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Can we bring in the guys from Office Space to make the Futility Players interview for their jobs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKa68kWkP48&feature=related
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
Just one thought.
Our backup catcher could be Rob Johnson, whirlpool of suck.
Go Twins!
no way buddy!
Rob Johnson is from Butte Montana!
Do you want to rethink your position/statement now?
by montanatwinsfan on Jun 15, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
If Gardy had anything to do with it, 0%.
Matt Tolbert has some serious compromising photos of Gardenhire. No one’s really sure where he got them, possibly from Nick Punto. All we know is that he uses them as blackmail for playing time. Luke Hughes, as far as we know, does not have any of these photos.
Tolbert was brought up to spot start and sit on the bench
The Twins clearly don’t bring up actual prospects to sit on the bench; they prefer to let them play every day, either here or in AAA.
Hence Butera (who is not a prospect) over Ramos at the start of the year. Hughes, Plouffe, Ramos, Valencia: when they were brought up, it was to start, and they did.
Good call
The Twins seem to be very careful with the development of guys they think might contribute. Tolbert was initially brought up to basically fill Casilla’s spot as the last guy on the bench, and he’s only played as much as he has because of nagging injuries to other infielders.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
My theory
Plouffe is headed down today and Gardy did not want his last game in The Show to be sitting on the bench. Punto is now our starting SS and Valencia the regular at 3B.
by PinkiePinkerton on Jun 15, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but he started 8 straight when he came up
before the last 2.

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