How good is the Twins' bullpen?
Going into spring training, I was pretty bullish on the Twins' bullpen. We had one of the best closers in baseball, two right-handed set up men who combined for a 2.25 ERA in 92 innings for the Twins in 2009 (Rauch and Guerrier), two more righties with big question marks but big upsides (Crain, Neshek), and a lefty with a career 2.12 ERA through 81 games (Mijares). For me, and many Twins fans, there was every reason to expect the team to field a very good, if not great, bullpen in 2010.
Of course, not everything went as planned. Nathan got hurt, taking away the ace of the pen while shuffling one of the two right-handed set-up men into the role of closer. Neshek only pitched 4 innings before heading to the DL, and is still working his way back to the majors. Crain has been...well, awful and unreliable. Those are three big blows to any bullpen, and could have been a major setback to a Twins team poised for great things in 2010.
So, given those setbacks, how is it that the Twins have one of the best bullpens in baseball? Consider the numbers (after the jump):
Twins 2010 Bullpen, through June 21
- 2.89 ERA, second-lowest in the AL
- 1.15 WHIP, lowest in the AL
- 2.42 walks per nine, lowest in the majors
- Three of the top-15 (and four of the top-25) relievers in the AL, based on Expected Wins Added (Guerrier, Rauch, Duensing, and Burnett, in that order)
Some more specifics on the key contributors, ordered by innings pitched:
|
PLAYER |
IP |
ERA |
K/9 |
BB/9 |
HR/9 |
|
33.1 |
2.70 |
7.02 |
3.24 |
0.27 |
|
|
32 |
1.69 |
5.91 |
2.81 |
0.28 |
|
|
28.2 |
1.88 |
5.02 |
1.88 |
0.94 |
|
|
28 |
2.57 |
6.75 |
0.96 |
0.96 |
|
|
28 |
4.82 |
7.07 |
2.89 |
0.96 |
|
|
19.1 |
4.66 |
7.91 |
2.33 |
1.40 |
|
|
13.2 |
2.63 |
6.59 |
2.63 |
1.98 |
It's easy to see why this bullpen has been so successful: the four guys pitching the most innings out of the bullpen have been filthy, with ERAs ranging from 1.69 to 2.70. They throw strikes, limit walks, and keep the ball in the park.
But are they really as good as their ERAs suggest?
|
PLAYER |
BABIP |
LOB% |
HR/FB |
FIP |
xFIP |
|
Alex Burnett |
0.284 |
78.80% |
3.0% |
3.22 |
4.18 |
|
Matt Guerrier |
0.224 |
82.30% |
2.90% |
3.35 |
4.43 |
|
Brian Duensing |
0.198 |
91.70% |
9.70% |
4.11 |
4.22 |
|
Jon Rauch |
0.310 |
86.30% |
7.30% |
3.34 |
3.95 |
|
Jesse Crain |
0.322 |
58.70% |
7.70% |
4.02 |
4.53 |
|
Ron Mahay |
0.324 |
68.80% |
14.30% |
4.16 |
3.63 |
|
Jose Mijares |
0.313 |
88.60% |
12.00% |
5.40 |
5.04 |
For those familiar with defense-independent pitching statistics like FIP and xFIP, some of these numbers should give you pause (for those who aren't familiar, read here and here). The low ERAs sported by the workhorses of the bullpen - Burnett, Guerrier, and Duensing - are backed by less than stellar peripheral numbers, and perhaps a bit of luck:
- Burnett and Guerrier are both sporting unsustainably low home run per fly ball rates. On average, about 10% of fly balls hit off a pitcher will reach the seats. Anything significantly lower than that (like, say, 3%) could be a sign a pitcher is getting lucky. Note: These numbers don't reflect Burnett's poor outing Tuesday night.
- Both Guerrier and Duensing have seen an unexpectedly high number of balls in play find fielders' gloves. Duensing's BABIP is currently 7th lowest among qualified major league relievers. Guerrier comes in at 15th.
- In total, the Twins currently sport the highest differential between their bullpen ERA (2.89) and FIP (3.82), and the second highest difference between their ERA and xFIP (4.28).
By no means am I trying to suggest the Twins' bullpen is teetering on the brink of collapse. Even accounting for luck, the Twins' bullpen still ranks 4th in the AL in FIP and 5th in xFIP. Rauch is a very good reliever, even if his ERA is a little lower than we should expect. Guerrier just plain confounds FIP-heads every year (seriously, check it out). Alex Burnett was extremely good at limiting homeruns in the minors, too. Left-handed hitters just can't seem to hit Brian Duensing, meaning that if he's deployed strategically his overall numbers could understate his value. Crain's peripherals are encouraging, if not overwhelming. Neshek could return at any time, and has the potential to regain his status as an elite right-handed reliever. On top this, Anthony Slama and Kyle Waldrop are pitching extremely well in AAA, and could become key pieces of the bullpen before the season's end.
The bottom line, in my view, is that this is a good bullpen that has pitched like a great one so far in 2010. We've had solid contributions from guys who were fighting for spots on the roster in spring training, and multiple pitchers waiting in the wings that look ready to contribute at the big league level. Yes, we're seeing the pen pitch above their heads right now, and we should expect to see their performance come back to Earth soon. But given the concerns we had earlier this spring, the Twins' bullpen continues to be a pleasant surprise.
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Good article
When you do projections on the Twins bullpen, it doesn’t look very good. I’ve come to set that worry aside this season, mainly because the bullpen has gotten such excellent results so far. But this article is a good reminder that the good times may not last.
One of the things Gardy has done well in the past
is bullpen management. When he knows which guys are in which roles, it’s basically just painting by number…so if you can do it right and you have enough talent, the bullpen by and large can look better than the sum of its parts. Once he was able to work that heirarchy out this season, it seems guys have settled in.
It’s still an area that needs improvement, though….but like you mention, Slama and Waldrop are knocking on the door, and Neshek is waiting in the wings as well. As we get closer to the trade deadline, I think this is the one area the Twins will be able to upgrade from within…which is nice, because it means we can focus on frying bigger fish.
Like Cliff Lee.
Duensing and Burnett have been godsends
and Rauch and Guerrier have been as good as ever
Interesting about Guerriers career difference between FIP and ERA
he must be the relief pitcher version of Mark Buerhle
It's great to get these young guys every year
Mijares at the end of 08, Duensing in 09 albeit as a starter mostly, and now Burnett this year.
Mijares still makes me nervous as hell for some reason.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
We also have Clay Condrey in the minors trying to work his way back
Whether or not he actually pitches in the majors this year is a different story, but he at least counts as insurance. I still would like to see some changes made in the pen, namely cutting Mahay and/or Crain once Neshek is ready. It’s just good to know that we have options to improve from within for the second half.
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Bullpen backup
Yes. But looking ahead to 2011 — Rauch, Guerrier and Crain all are overpaid, so to speak, to be middle/set-up guys.
Duensing has been a godsend. I’m surprised he doesn’t get more innings rather than just outs.
Condrey might be around to make up for the $1 investment in 2010. His speciality is supposed to be the ground ball.
Neshek should be fully recovered by next season and ligt’s out, considering his delivery. He’s getting hit now because of speed and location.
Slama, Waldrop….don’t forget Manship, who might end up more of a relief than a starter. Plus Delaney, too.
The thing is, the Twins have to get a look-see at these guys before September to see what they can do with the potential free agents. Remember than the Twins bullpen has a payroll of over $10 million, not counting Nathan.
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True.
I still half expect Rauch, Guerrier and Crain to all be gone next season. At best, maybe the Twins give Guerrier a two-year deal?
Someone will overpay for Rauch, at least
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by John Veldhuis on Jun 23, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Also: do the Twins offer Rauch arbitration?
He’s currently a Type-B, and could inch his way up if he stays healthy and continues to pitch well.
Definitely if he's a Type A, not sure if he stays put at B
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by John Veldhuis on Jun 23, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
More likely he'll accept as a type A
I think they offer as a type B but maybe not as a type A. As a Type A he’s less likely to see interest elsewhere and more likely to accept the $7M he’ll command in arbitration. Of course there are always teams like the Cubs out there willing to overlook a career long track record in favor of a one year saves number.
I think they let all 3 guys go and replace with cheaper options. I agree with offering Guerrier arbitration and perhaps signing a 2-3 year deal. What is the point of having lots of marginal pitching prospects if not to build a major league bullpen?
At his pace, he'll be an A by August
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I think you offer Matt arbitration, but you sign him longer term
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I would probably let Rauch and Crain go
Since someone is going to overpay for Rauch. A two year deal makes some sense for Guerrier, depends on the price. $2M or so a year is fine with me if he keeps the 8th inning locked down.
by Adam Peterson on Jun 23, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll get twice that
And he’ll be worth it.
I agree on Rauche and Crain, though. WIth Waldrop, Neshek and Slama in AAA, we have a lot of depth.
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I'm surprised by the xFIP numbers
I wonder if they are severely penalized by pitching in Target Field.
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Target Field might partly explain the difference in ERA and the FIP numbers.
xFIP is based only on Ks, walks/IBB/HBP, and fly ball-to-ground ball ratio (FIP is the same, with HR % in place of FB/GB). So you might get away with a lot of fly balls in target field and generally thrive by putting the ball in play in a way that might not work so well in, say, Philly. They also might just be getting lucky. Home/road splits would be interesting in that regard.
(Oops, actually it doesn't incorporate IBB)
The idea is it’s just things the pitcher fully controls.
I thought xFIP differed from FIP in that it took park effects into account
I must confess I don’t study all the permutations that carefully. But if a stat takes park effects into account, it’s interesting that a pitcher might get penalized for pitching in a pitchers’ park even though he dominates in that park.
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What is the park factor?
Have they moved it off from 100 yet?
I was under the opposite impression
I believe that since xFIP is supposed to capture underlying performance, not results, it wouldn’t take park into account at all – the “home run rate” component of xFIP (basically replacing HR rate in FIP) is derived from fly ball rate multiplied by league average HR/FB. Because of that, someone pitching in a pitchers’ park is likely to have a FIP better than their xFIP while a guy in a hitters’ park will have a better xFIP.
The theory behind this is that the only part of a home run in a pitcher’s control is that he has given up a fly ball, and it’s not under his control whether that fly ball goes over the fence. I’m not sure of the research behind this, but I do recall reading that xFIP correlates slightly better than plain FIP for future pitcher performance.
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Yeah, I think that's the right conclusion, but xFIP doesn't use park factors.
xFIP is worse than FIP for these guys probably in part because of Target Field.
xFIP = ((13*(.106*# of fly balls))(3*BBHBP-IBB)-(2*K))/IP+constant
FIP = (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)3-K2)/IP+constant
So because FIP uses HRs as an input, it will be affected by how easy it is to hit home runs in the parks a pitcher pitches in (Target Field, e.g.), whereas xFIP won’t be, because xFIP doesn’t care whether a fly ball actually went out of the park or not.
Trade
Would anyone possibly consider trading Rauch and moving, say, Guerrier into the closer spot?
We can’t assume that Nathan will be back 100% by the end of spring training. So the Twins actually do need a potential closer.
But with the arms in the wings (who say Brunett coming this fast)…could very well see next year’s bullpen Nathan/Guerrier, Duensing, Mijares, Neshek, Waldrop, Slama and Manship/Perkins/Swarzak.
I don’t see the Twins giving up on Perkins. They can still take an arbitration flyer on him next season and not have to overpay him…especially sicne he ahs no worth on the trade amrket right now.
The Twins could trade off half their bullpen and still win the division? Be competitive in the Playoffs? Anyone think otherwise?
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Why?
Don’t mess with things when they’re going good. Wait until next year to shake it up. Plus, who would trade for Rauch? Most contenders have a closer they like enough to not overpay for Rauch.
Next year could be Nathan, Duensing, Mijares, Neshek, Waldrop, Slama and Manship. Then someone here will be trying to trade Neshek and find a place for Gutierrez in July.
How much do you think Clay Condrey will add when he comes back?
Great article, btw. Basically confirms all my blissful feelings about the bullpen this year, and they have all (except Crain) been a joy to watch. But in my mind we’re not complete until we have Neshek and Condrey back. Condrey I’m looking forward to having because of his role with the recent World Series Phillies teams, and I remember seeing an article on the Twins official site where he said this squad reminds him of the 2008 championship team.
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