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Mariners, blown call beat Twins 2-1 in 10 innings

Wednesday's biggest story in baseball was umpire Jim Joyce's blown call in Detroit that robbed Armando Gallaraga of a perfect game. Maybe it was just a bad night for the umpires, as an (admittedly much, much closer) blown call by second-base umpire Dale Scott gave the Mariners the 2-1 extra-inning victory over the Twins.

Allow me to set the scene: two outs in the bottom of the tenth inning, Ryan Langerhans on second base, Josh Wilson on first base for Seattle. Ichiro Suzuki at the plate for the M's; Jose Mijares on the mound for the Twins. Mijares got Suzuki to hit the ball on the ground; Matt Tolbert went to his right to make the stop, then flipped the ball to J.J. Hardy at second base for the force. Wilson was out, but Scott made the safe call - and in the time the flip took to make, Langerhans had rounded third and scored far ahead of Hardy's throw to the plate. It was Seattle's first extra-inning win in seven tries on the year.

Cliff Lee pitched eight strong innings for Seattle, giving up just five hits and striking out eight. One hit, however, was enough to give Lee the no-decision. Michael Cuddyer provided the only Twins run, hitting a seventh-inning home run off of Cliff Lee, who had previously gone over 50 innings this season without allowing a home run. (This fact was mentioned about ten seconds before the homer by Dick Bremer, who spent a fair amount of time thereafter attempting to further jinx the Mariners.)

Kevin Slowey pitched probably his best game of the year, finishing seven innings and allowing just one run. Perhaps the most encouraging inning was the seventh, when Slowey put runners on first and second to start the inning, but quickly worked out of the jam by inducing a double-play grounder and a foul pop-up to end the inning.

Minnesota had a chance in the ninth inning to take the lead, as Joe Mauer walked and went to second on a passed ball, then moved to third on a ground-out. Cuddyer nearly was the hero, as he hit a screaming line drive, but it was right at the shortstop, and Jason Kubel flied out to end the inning. Cuddyer and Kubel also had chances in the fourth, with Mauer on third and Morneau on second, but Cuddyer struck out and Kubel grounded out to end that threat as well.

All in all, between umpires Joyce and Scott, in only one day, baseball has likely convinced a large number of fans that it may be time to consider expanding instant replay.

Studs

  • Slowey had probably the best night of any Twin, needing 98 pitches to complete seven innings, something he's struggled with.
  • ALERT: Jesse Crain pitched another 1-2-3 inning. In his last six innings, he's allowed two baserunners and struck out six. On behalf of everyone: WHAAAA?

Duds

  • Tough night for Jason Kubel; 0-4, and left a lot of ducks on the pond when there weren't many out there to begin with.
  • I think I'll refrain from putting Cuddyer on this list, as a game-tying home run helps ease the pain of the two failures.

NOTES

As Stu noted below, lots of team news today, including the news that Cuddyer will be on bereavement leave due to the death of his father-in-law. Danny Valencia has been called up to fill his spot on the roster, and in the same week that he was described as "Nick Punto, but without any of those things that make Punto a useful player." The move leaves the Twins without a backup outfielder, not even Alexi Casilla, who's having arthroscopic surgery on his elbow and will miss a couple of months.

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I always loved that one.

by FoulJack on Jun 3, 2010 1:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Valencia is the silver lining tonight.

Crap call, but whatareyagonnado.

We REALLY need to win tonight. Losing 3 of 4 to Seattle is unacceptable.

I always loved that one.

by FoulJack on Jun 3, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

excuse my French

but that’s a pretty horseshit silver lining

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by fetch9 on Jun 3, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess your a glass is half empty person.

I see the silver lining as well. all the hits came from 3-4-5 except 1 from Tolbert. Tolbert over Punto at 2B. Let Punto sit.

by b1 on Jun 3, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tolbert sucks

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jun 3, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

I always loved that one.

by FoulJack on Jun 3, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, wait...

you would rather have Tolbert in the field than Punto? What is up with you?

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by BCTwins on Jun 3, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, have umpires always been this terrible?

Seems like they’ve just been especially abysmal this year.

by funnytrain on Jun 3, 2010 4:02 AM EDT reply actions  

It started

last year in the postseason with some brutal calls. It has continued this year from what I’ve seen. That said, I am opposed to instant replay unless they shorten the games to seven innings. The games are long enough already.

by wcooley on Jun 3, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be in favor of adding game-ending plays to instant replay

In other words, if a game ends on a controversial call, there would be a required review before a winner is declared. That wouldn’t cover the Gallaraga case. But last night’s game might have had a different outcome if the proper call was made.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

So for the sake of time, it's really not that important to you that the call is right?

There are very few times instant replay would actually be used in a game and at most would add 10 minutes to the game if managers were limited in how many challenges they use. By limiting amount of challenges per game to 2 for instance (same as NFL), the strategy of when to use the challenges would add another interesting element to the game. It’s time to join the 21st century and solve problems rather than complain about them. All the other major sports have instant replay and it has only enhanced the game from my perspective without noticeably lengthening the time of game.

by Sheldon on Jun 3, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blown Call

Yes, it was a blown call, but as Jon noted, it was a very close call and unfortunately the second base umpire was on the wrong side of the bag to make the call as Hardy partially blocked his view of the throw from Tolbert.

What killed me about the call is what happened afterward:

Non Heads-Up Play #1: I understand Hardy being surprised at the blown call, but a heads up fielders has to IMMEDIATELY turn around and check for the runner coming home. The split seconds he lost making facial expressions at Dale Scott is what allowed Langerhans to make it home.

Non Heads-Up Play #2: Why in hell does Jose Mijares cut that ball off in front of Mauer? Is he seriously trying to hold Ichiro at first and avoid the fourth run from scoring? Mauer’s body language after Mijares cut off the ball was priceless. I’d guess it was habit for Mijares though…
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by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Good points all.

I can’t kill an ump for missing that. It was close.

And frankly, I’m not as furious about the Joyce call as some people are. It’s obvious in slow-mo, but I had a hard time with it in full speed; you’re dealing with watching the catch and both players’ feet all at the same time. It’s not a bang-bang play, it’s bang-bang-bang.

by Luke in MN on Jun 3, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of the problem with both the Detroit and Minnesota calls

is that there was no “bang”. When I was umpiring first base for high school games (no claims that I was a “good” umpire…) I would often rely on the sound of the ball hitting the first baseman’s mitt and use my eyes to determine when the runner hits the bag. Trying to use my eyes for both was more difficult (for me, perhaps not for others). For Joyce, it was a shovel from Cabrera to Galarraga, not a hard throw. Not an excuse, since MLB umpires should be able to make these calls, but I suspect the error rate would be higher for close plays involving soft tosses than for hard throws.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your'e absolutley right Adam.

Hearing the ball hit the glove as your watching the base works really well. Soft toss not so much. I’m all for replay but the problem is they are going to pick & choose what can be & what can’t be. We already have seen in football these problems. Pass interference when the ball’s ten feet over everybody’s head. If your going to use replay to get something right then use it for anything involved in the game. Give the coach a set amount of challenges.
That includes strikes & balls. What if the home plate ump calls a ball when it’s a strike & he walks the guy, there goes his perfect game. Unless we use it for everything in the game we will continue to run into different scenarios that can change the outcome of games.

by iowaron on Jun 3, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Ten

Last year it seemed that replay in Big 10 football got the call “right” about half the time. There was the Eric Decker fiasco at Northwestern, which took an interminable amount of time and they still got the call wrong. They also botched a call in the Indiana/Michigan game which allowed the Wolverines to escape (that’s right, their record should have been even worse). Replay is no panacea.

by wcooley on Jun 3, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I’d always been taught that blaming the ump for your loss is a loser’s move, but even ignoring that, I think people are underestimating the value of Langerhans’s heads-up play (or, if he was directed to run by the 3B coach, the coach’s play).

Let’s give the other team credit for being smart and not giving up on the play.

by dwintheiser on Jun 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

That was some real heads up base running by the Mariners. I agree, you have to give them credit. If Hardy had been more heads up (and Mijares doesn’t cut off the throw), we would have thrown Langerhans out at the plate after the blown call.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer

I agree it’s hard to give Cuddyer a “dud” call like I did with Morneau yesterday. Especially since he nailed that line drive right at the shortstop in the ninth inning. But, we’re still talking about a few runs left on the table in situations where we had a runner on third base with one out.

In the end, I had Cuddyer at -0.11 runs for the game.

1. Second Inning, bases empty, one out. Infield single to third base: +0.31 runs.
2. Fourth Inning, second and third, one out. Strikeout: -0.76 runs.
3. Seventh Inning, leadoff batter: Homerun: +1.0 runs.
4. Ninth Inning, runner on third, one out: Lineout to shortstop: -0.66 runs.

I wouldn’t have given Cuddyer a “dud”, if everyone contributed the same number of runs as he did we would have scored three or four runs. I reserve “dud” status for Jason Kubel (-1.61 runs), Delmon Young (-0.92) and Denard Span (-0.80). Heck, even Tolbert (-0.69, mostly due to -0.48 running) and Punto (-0.24) weren’t that bad…

Mauer (0.67, +0.23 of which was base running due to the passed ball) and Morneau (0.36) were the only two hitters in the black.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Your numbers frighten and confuse me.

If we’re going to start having to have facts to back up the Studs and Duds section, instead of emotionally-based rantings, I am going to have trouble correctly completing that section. :-)

by Jon Marthaler on Jun 3, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

:)

No facts or numbers necessary. You know I’ll use them for my own, but frankly I need to be tempered a bit by you and the emotionally based assessments…

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Andrew Kneeland

I always appreciate specious arguments

Valencia is nothing like Punto, in many, many ways. A thorough comparison would take too much time (you can look it up yourself). But Nick Punto had nothing like the minor league career that Danny Valencia has had. Just because Danny’s struggled some in AAA does not mean he’s not a good prospect.

Punto was never a good prospect, is seven years older and, by any estimation, is a far weaker hitter. He’s a better defender. But at third base, his primary defensive skill (range) is not as important in the grand scheme of things.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Valencia is the 3BOTF

And if he gets real playing time (not likely since he’s replacing Cuddyer on bereavement leave), he could force the issue with Casilla or Harris. Ideally, Valencia grabs hold of third base and doesn’t let go, which means Punto can return to his (IMO rightful) role as the primary backup infielder.

But we should also watch Valencia’s plate discipline. Looking at his numbers when he was initially called up to A+/AA/AAA, his walk rate has dropped sharply, rising once he’s gotten comfortable. So I wouldn’t expect too many walks.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Batting 9th won't help Valencia take a walk

If he can manage to get the runner over, put the ball in play, catch the ball, etc. he’ll make Gardenhire happy. As long as he looks better than Harris I’ll be happy.

There is no decision needed on Casilla – he’s out for 4-6 weeks and will get the maximum rehab after that.

by DJL44 on Jun 3, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is it specious?

The argument was that if Valencia were given the starting job now, based on his minor league results he’s likely to produce little more than Punto has offensively, only he would almost certainly be a massive downgrade in the field. Which part that is wrong? Are Valencia’s minor league numbers some sort of mirage, as though he’s sandbagging for his major league callup so he can just blow everyone’s socks off?

Valencia is the Twins’ best “prospect” at third base. That doesn’t mean that he makes the team better now – about the best defense of giving him Punto’s job is that the team is so good right now that the potential slight downgrade at third is not likely to hurt the team’s playoff chances, with the possible benefit of Valencia improving with major league playing time.

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by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valencia doesn't have to be better than Punto

He has to be better than Harris. Punto will get his playing time all around the infield.

by DJL44 on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of

If you put Valencia at third, you are taking time away from Harris, but you’re also taking time away from Punto – you go from a typical week of 5 Punto, 2 Harris to 5 Valencia, 3 Punto (assuming he gets an extra start spelling someone else). Valencia’s starts will probably decrease Punto’s playing time as much as Harris’.

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by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto will start 8 days a week?

I’d say 5 Punto => 2 Harris, 1 Casilla to 4 Punto => 3 Valencia, 1 Tolbert.

by DJL44 on Jun 3, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 starts/week

I wouldn’t put it past him. Dude hustles.

by Luke in MN on Jun 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is not good enough!

We’re talking about 114% effort here.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is not what I wrote
you go from a typical week of 5 Punto, 2 Harris to 5 Valencia, 3 Punto (assuming he gets an extra start spelling someone else)

My assumption was that Punto would go from starting roughly five out of seven games to roughly three out of seven, with Valencia starting five out of seven in Punto’s place and Punto picking up an extra start a week spelling Hardy or Hudson.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also Tolbert

Gardy doesn’t trust Harris at second, so I see Tolbert filling in at second with Punto at third until Hudson comes back. Valencia pushes Tolbert to the bench where he belongs.

I don’t know what happened to Tolbert, but I’ve seen more awkward plays from him this year than any middle infielder in recent memory. That play on the Bradley steal was just ugly. If he were in position, it would have been close. But he was way out of position and fell down crossing the bag. He did make a nice play that should have ended the inning but ended the game instead. But those have been few and far between for him. And his UZR numbers are scary bad. Tolbert is not a real major leaguer. He’s below replacement level. At least Valencia is above replacement level.

One final thing. You don’t just play for this year. You have to develop guys. All things considered, if Valencia provides the same value as Punto, I’d rather have Valencia playing. Ideally, you don’t have to pick up Punto’s option. If Valencia can make the jump without hurting you now, you also reap benefits next year, in terms of a more developed third baseman and a potential $4 million savings.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Minor league results just from his time in AAA

I contend that his AAA numbers are a little weird. They’re a cause for concern. But if you take his minor league numbers and compare them head to head with Punto’s, well, there’s just no comparison. So to project Valencia as another Punto is short sighted.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valencia's minor league OPS : 823, Punto's minor league OPS: 700

You might say Punto’s major league numbers are more important. OK, if so, I agree. His major league OPS is .644. If Valencia has a similar drop off from his minor league to his major league OPS, he’ll hit .775 in the majors. That’s nothing like Punto.

Besides, the Twins have shown that they need a better utility player to spell Hardy and Hudson. For something like 25 games this year, the Twins have had either Harris, Tolbert, or Casilla playing a middle infield position. If you fill third base with Valencia, you have Punto playing up the middle instead, where you can maximize the value of his glove. Punto is a huge upgrade over any of those guys.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valid points

I do agree that Punto is, in general, best utilized as a utility player, and that Valencia has so far been a better minor league player than Punto, who had to outperform his minor league equivalencies to tread water as a major league hitter.

I’d note, though, that I don’t think anyone “projects” Valencia as another Punto, from a career achievement standpoint – the point is that he isn’t necessary a good bet to out-produce him this season. Of course, that again brings into question the whole balance of developing players vs. winning now (as you mentioned in your response to my other post above).

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by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate the mention...

But if you read the first line of the article at TwinsTarget.com, you’ll see that I did not write that article. Bill Parker is the author of that piece, and made that Punto comment. I can’t say I disagree with Bill, though.

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by TwinsTarget on Jun 3, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I was just responding to Jon’s characterization. But since you don’t disagree with him, no biggie.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with BeefMaster

I don’t think Bill was comparing Valencia’s and Punto’s careers, but their 2010 contribution potential.

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by TwinsTarget on Jun 3, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How you project their 2010 contributions depends on their careers, no?

Projecting Valencia as a .574 OPS hitter is exceedingly pessimistic. The only way you can reasonably come to that projection is if you focus too narrowly on Valencia’s career.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Career" in the other direction

Obviously, their career pasts come into play when attempting to project their 2010 performance, but that is not what I was referring to by “career” – I was talking about his eventual major league career. My point was that just because Bill thinks he’s likely to be the same or less value than Punto this year doesn’t mean that he thinks it’s likely that he’ll end up having a similar career. Saying that Valencia is not likely to be any better than Punto right now and “project(ing) Valencia as another Punto” (as you stated in your post that triggered the discussion) are not at all the same thing.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Jun 3, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi walk rate is better this year

Last year, he came up to AAA and was on fire, hitting everything. When you think you’re invincible, you start swinging at everything and get out of whack with his usual plate discipline. When he slumped, he was not able to get on base at all. His walk rate at AAA was 3 something. This year, it’s 7 something. He still has work to do to get back to his usual double-digit walk rate, but it’s improved.

The other thing that people seem to forget is that he started the year by hitting .111 through the first two weeks of the season. In the last seven weeks, his OPS is in the high 800s. That includes a double-digit walk rate.

It’s a common problem for prospects who have a great spring, especially the last cuts. It’s such a let down going back to AAA that they slump out of the gate. But he’s about where he needs to be now. As you say, hopefully he makes such an impression that they send Tolbert back when Cuddy comes off to give him a longer look. Then when Casilla comes back, they’ll have a tough decision to make.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I scoff at the notion

No way Valencia is a Punto without the benefits! Everyone knows Punto hopes and prays his way onto base by trying to foul off enough pitches to get walked. When he does get a hit it’s a lucky slap of the bat… I’m not sure Valencia will end up being anything special but he at the very least does project as a everyday starter, which Punto clearly would not on any team except a Gardy coached one. I’m relatively certain Valencia while a downgrade defensively from Harris/Punto is an upgrade in the bat department. I also, think his recent lack of power is an anomaly and being called up just might be the spark to get that going.

by SpanFan on Jun 3, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

On any other team

I think if Harris were let go, he would be poor anywhere, ultimately losing playing time and likely cut.

On the other hand, if Casilla were released, I could easily see him getting a regular playing
 gig and becoming an average or even better
than average regular.

Punto would be about the same anywhere, not that it matters.

by AM. on Jun 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I disagree about Harris

He seems like a classic “change of scenery” guy to me. He’s just been in and out of Gardy’s doghouse so many times he’s a head case and has zero trade value. Harris actually had quite a promising rookie season in Tampa Bay, +2.3 WAR and .282/.343/.434 line, which was partially driven by a high .331 BABIP, but that was in line with his 21.3% line drive rate.

The main difference that I see in his numbers is that once he got to Minnesota, he immediately started hitting a ton of ground balls. His GB% was 43.5% in Tampa, hasn’t been below 50% since he’s been here. That smells to me like coaching to “hit like a Twin”.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good insight

Do you have numbers on called strikes? I see a guy who wants to be a patient hitter, but he takes a lot of strikes. His K rate is alarmingly high throughout his career.

The biggest thing I see this year is a really low BABIP—.194. His BABIP was relatively high in past years (in the mid .300s). So it’s a combination of being overrated in the past and being a little underrated this year. Still, even with a .350 BABIP, he is not putting enough balls in play to hit much over .200.

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by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going the opposite way?

Most hitters when they struggle start to press at the plate. I wonder if Harris is going the other way and trying to force better pitches, but laying off too much. I surmise he would be swinging a little more liberally if he could get ANYTHING to drop.

Great point on the groundballs Adam. I just think Gardy hates this guy. If he had a chance to go elsewhere he probably would post a .750 line again.

by PinkiePinkerton on Jun 3, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade

It was a horrible trade. Neither Young or Harris are “Twins Guys,” but they are trying really hard to be, overcompensating, and we fans are paying the price.

In both cases, Harris and Young are often just trying too hard.

by wcooley on Jun 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny

They traded a couple of guys because they weren’t “Twins guys” for a couple of guys who are even less “Twins guys.”

When I mean funny, I don’t mean “funny haha” I mean “bag over the head, punch in the gut funny.”

WORST. TRADE. IN. TWINS. HISTORY

That is, if you don’t count selling Jim Kaat for $500 to your biggest divisional rival. At least they got Landreaux for Carew and Smalley/Cubbage for Blyleven.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jun 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

worst ever?

Bruno for Tom Herr?

Rod Carew?

by wcooley on Jun 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the same thing we saw with Delmon Young

2007 TAM: 46.3%, 32.6%, 21.1% GB-FB-LD
2008 MIN: 55.2%, 27.8%, 17.1%
2009 MIN: 49.7%, 34.1%, 16.2%
2010 MIN: 46.3%, 39.7%, 14.0%

I like that Delmon’s fly balls have increased, he’s got power to turn those fly balls into home runs.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No numbers on called strikes

but the data is out there if I wanted to analyze it. It sure feels like Harris has watched a bunch of good pitches go by.

Good point on the BABIP. I haven’t updated my software to analyze on a per player basis, but according to my hand written analysis, Harris’ “expected” BABIP is .270 based on number of GB/FB/LD, etc. So he appears to have been unlucky on batted balls. And that would bring his batting average up from .163 to .234. As you note, still not good, but not NL pitcher territory either.

by Adam Peterson on Jun 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's swung at 62% of pitches in the zone this year

which is low, but not crazy low. Both he and Punto just don’t swing all that much. I guess I see the logic when you’re a weak hitter trying to get on base, but when you’re struggling like they are, and everyone’s just going strike 1, strike 2 while you keep the bat on your shoulders, maybe it’s time to start swinging at some pitches early in the count.

Here’s a link if you want to see more. (O=outside strikezone, Z=inside strikezone)

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=3b&stats=bat&lg=al&qual=n&type=5&season=2010&month=0

by Luke in MN on Jun 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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