MLB Draft 2010: Day 2 Open Thread
by Jesse on Jun 8, 2010 12:20 PM EDT
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Niko Goodrum, SS/OF
- Birthdate: 2/28/92
- Height: 6'3"
- Weight: 175 lbs.
- Bats: Both
- Throws: Right
Check out his video here, as well as the following scouting report:
Hitting ability: Goodrum is a switch-hitter but hasn't always made consistent enough contact hitting both ways.
Power: There's some raw power with the chance to be average from both sides of the plate, but the question is, will he be able to get to it?
Running speed: He has above-average speed.
Base running: He's the type who could be a threat on the bases.
Arm strength: Has an above-average arm that works okay at shortstop now and would be just fine in center field.
Fielding: Most foresee a move from shortstop to the outfield at the next level.
Range: He should have more than enough range in the outfield.
Physical Description: Goodrum has a streamlined, athletic body, kind of like Dexter Fowler.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Raw athleticsm and tools; above-average speed.
Weaknesses: Everything is raw and needs development, particularly with the bat.
Summary: Goodrum fits the mold of the high-risk, high-reward toolsy high school athlete. He's got plenty of speed and some raw power from both sides of the plate, but his swing and approach will need work so he can tap into that power. Currently a shortstop, most foresee a move to the outfield, where he could put his speed and above-average arm to good use in center field. The big question is whether he'll be able to hit enough at the next level. The team that thinks he will is the one that will take a chance on his high ceiling.
Round 3: Pat Dean, LHP
- Born: May 25, 1989
- Height: 6-2
- Boston College
Round 4: Eddie Rosario, RF
- Bats/Throws: L/R
- Born: September 28, 1991
- Height: 6-0
- Weight: 170 lbs
- Rafael Lopez Landron HS
Round 5: Nathaniel Roberts, CF
- Bats/Throws: L/R
- Born: February 25, 1989
- Height: 6-1
- Weight: 200 lbs
- High Point University
Round 6: Logan Darnell, LHP
- Born: February 2, 1989
- Height: 6-2
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Kentucky
Round 7: Matthew Hauser, RHP
- March 30, 1988
- 6-2
- University of San Diego
Round 8: Lance Ray, RF
- Bats/Throws: L/R
- Born: September 2, 1989
- Height: 6-1
- Weight: 194 lbs
- U Kentucky
Round 9: Kyle Knudson, C
- Bats/Throws: R/R
- Born: September 12, 1987
- Height: 6-3
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Minnesota
Round 10: JaDaimon Williams, SS
- Bats/Throws: S/R
- Born: September 20, 1990
- Height: 5-11
- Weight: 183 lbs
- Brooks-DeBartolo Collegiate HS
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Cartier Goodrum
6’ 3", high-risk, high-reward H.S. shortstop
Toolsy high school bat
Another typical Minnesota pick
You make it sound like a bad thing
ONe of the best talent evaluation staffs in MLB.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean for it to sound negative
It’s just true that their first two picks have been very typical of their past draft strategy. A strategy which has worked pretty well in the past. If it ain’t broke…
reminds me of Reggie Williams
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They drafted his brother
according to LEN3 – JD Williams is related.
From mlb.com
Niko Goodrum – SS/OF
Fayette County HS (Ga.), Sr.
Birthdate: 2/28/92
Height: 6’3"
Weight: 175 lbs.
Bats: Both
Throws: Right
Scout’s report filed: 3/29/10
Scouting Report
Hitting ability: Goodrum is a switch-hitter but hasn’t always made consistent enough contact hitting both ways.
Power: There’s some raw power with the chance to be average from both sides of the plate, but the question is, will he be able to get to it?
Running speed: He has above-average speed.
Base running: He’s the type who could be a threat on the bases.
Arm strength: Has an above-average arm that works okay at shortstop now and would be just fine in center field.
Fielding: Most foresee a move from shortstop to the outfield at the next level.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Here's a bunch of videos
Watch on mute if you don’t want to endure excruciating music.
He has a nice swing from both sides of the plate. He seems to step in from the left side and does a little swoop on the right. I don’t know if that means anything except maybe he’s got a quicker swing from the right side at this point so he can afford a slower stride.
From the STRIB
Here’s Baseball America’s write-up on him:
Goodrum is part of the deep class of Georgia prep players who are viewed as future outfielders, a list that includes Delino Deshields Jr., Chevez Clarke, Aaron Shipman and Chris Hawkins. Goodrum, like Hawkins, played shortstop in high school but probably will move out of the infield as a pro because he lacks the pure infield actions most scouts look for at short. He has excellent quickness and well-above-average arm strength and is a 60 runner on the 20-80 scale, though he should slow down as he bulks up. Goodrum was committed to Kennesaw State, and despite the Owls’ recent track record of success, he is considered signable. Goodrum is a switch-hitter who got off to a slower start with the bat, thanks in part to him pressing on a modestly talented high school team. As the weather heated up, though, so did Goodrum’s bat and he made more contact. He’s long and lean at 6-foot-3, 175 pounds, and his swing has holes as a result of his long arms. He also has surprising raw power, as his swing has leverage and he has good hands. Scouts like Goodrum’s makeup, and he’s an easy player to dream on. He could wind up at third base, center field or even right and should go out in the first four rounds.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Another tidbit from LEN3
Terry Ryan scouted Georgia
Can he play third?? (tongue-in-cheek)
An athletic, 6-foot-2, 195-pounder, Wimmers holds the record for career batting average (.457) at Cincinnati’s storied Moeller High – a school that has produced the likes of Buddy Bell, Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Larkin.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I like him
not sure he has enough bat though.
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Scouting Video....
….It makes him look insanely skinny. Probably too lanky to stay at SS. Will his bat play in the OF though? His secondary skills (speed, contact, etc.) might not be quite good enough to pass as a Revere-type player in the Kenny Lofton mold. He’d be a great offensive player if he somehow stayed at shortstop.
What kills me is Chrils Sale: listed at 6'6'', 173 lbs.
As someone who was around that size for a very awkward year in high school, I can’t believe someone with those proportions would be drafted that high. Not that he won’t fill out, but it’s amazing he can be a competant athlete with those proportions at the college level. Heck, at that weight, it’s a minor miracle he has enough muscle to animate his frame.
BA says:
Three-pitch lefthander earns Glen Perkins comparisons.
Uh oh
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by John Veldhuis on Jun 8, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully just pitch-wise
Not attitude-wise. But I’ll take someone like that in the third round. Perk was a 1st rounder.
Video looks OK to me
but, really, what do I know? Not much.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Again from the STRIB via LEN3
Like Virginia Tech’s Jesse Hahn, Dean was a skinny, projectable Connecticut prepster in 2007, and like Hahn he blossomed in the Atlantic Coast Conference. Dean’s fastball sat in the 84-88 mph range in high school, but he touched 93 mph and held his velocity deep into games as a sophomore at BC last spring. Dean has not been at his best this spring due to elbow inflammation, which caused him to miss a start in mid-March and another three weeks later. But MRIs and X-rays revealed no structural damage, and the Eagles eased him back into action. Through 67 innings, he was 5-1, 3.76 with 51 strikeouts and 10 walks, demonstrating his outstanding control. The 6-foot-1, 175-pound Dean is a competitive lefthander with excellent feel for pitching, earning comparisons to Glen Perkins. He settled into the 88-91 mph range with his fastball this spring and has topped out at 92 on occasion. He has good command of a four-pitch mix, but his solid-average changeup is his best pitch. His slider and curveball both rate as fringe-average offerings. Dean’s frame gives scouts pause, but his polish gives him a good chance to reach the big leagues as a back-end starter.
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
Perkins, Duensing, Mullins
Sounds like another one, throw him on the pile.
Mullins doesn't have a 90+ fastball
Tops out at 88.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
College arms with control
prep bats with athletic tools. It’s worked pretty good.
You know the last time the Twins took a college bat in the first OR supplemental first round?
I’ll leave that as trivia for a few minutes.
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Supplement with international signings
It has been a pretty good formula.
You are correct
Supplemental first round, 1997.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 8, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Eddie Rosario
OF (Twins wanted him listed at center), 6’0", 170 lbs
Bats: Left, Throws: Right
Out of Puerto Rico
Puerto Rico OF after the 1st round
It’s starting to read like a script. :)
He has a Bobby Abreu comp….
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
Goodrum: a switch hitting Joe Benson
The Twins always take a Puerto Rican in the third round.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I'm too lazy to look it up
and my memory is waning. Can you refresh my menory for me? (or are you joking?)
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose Morales, Eduardo Morlan, Angel Morales
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I can't recall if we drafted anyone from PR last year but...
2010 Eddie Rosario CF 3rd round
2008 Daniel Ortiz CF 4th round
2007 Angel L Morales CF 3rd round
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
Who's Nathan Roberts?
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
Ok here we go...
Our 5th round picks is an Of from High Point University in IL.
Video:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=10018074&content_id=8698921
This is what John Sickels say about him:
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/6/8/1507262/twins-shadow-draft#comments
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
They took a couple of P.R. pitchers...
…late in last year’s draft. Eddie Ahorrio in the 45th round and Richard Calcano in the 47th round. Both signed.
can't say I'm a huge fan of this draft
but the formula has worked for them in the past so whatever.
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lance ray - kentucky
http://www.ukathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2009-2010/teamcume.html
some very good slugging, on base and average numbers. Looks like he didn’t play a ton, maybe injury, but when he did big time production.
Can he play 3rd?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. ~ Terence Mann
by John Veldhuis on Jun 8, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
twins take kyle knudson-gophers-catcher
he’s a pretty good hitter.
jadamion williams - prep - 2nd basemen
theres your infielder.
Twins have signed their top 10 picks the last few years
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
last year Blake Dean was our tenth round pick, simliar to this
And of Course went back to LSU for his Senior year
DIDN"T SIGN
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 8, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Tyler Kuresa
prep 1B, 6’3", very skinny right now
So was I when I was 18
Not such a problem nowadays ;)
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
No not at all
He has a “projectable frame”; so he has good power potential
I wish I knew how my frame was projecting
I would have eaten less
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jun 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
wow twins took deandre smelter, figured to get big bonus
hope they can land him
hope he's healthy, but yeah very, very good pick if they can sign him
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
cue Bert?
best athletes on the field.
by Pedro Munoz is fast on Jun 8, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Go with what you know
If you’re good at finding pitching talent, go with it. You can fill other slots by trading that pitching to teams that pick shooting stars. Add in attrition and drafting 60% pitchers makes sense. This is the era of the 13 man pitching staff. I only count 40% pitchers in the first 10 rounds.
13 of 20
That’s just over 60%. I’m serious that they need to draft over half pitching. Pitchers flame out at a higher rate, cost more per win and take up half the roster.
Valencia might be starting at 3b tonight
he was a 19RD draft pick, if Tolbert startes he was a 16 RD pick. We have no 3Bman in the whole system. Could we please pick some Bats. I guess it’s to late.
by b1 on Jun 8, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Miguel Sano
They have a stud 3B in the system. I suppose they could draft another Matt Moses and make you happy.
Wow, relax bro
Valencia will be fine until Sano is ready. If Valencia can’t do it, we can move Plouffe there. Third base is in better shape than it’s been since we lost both Blake and Koskie a year apart.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I liked what the Twins have done for 3 reasons
1, They played the strength of the draft, not the system needs. This draft class wasn’t very strong (compared to next years anyway) past the top 3 guys. But it was somewhat deep in collage pitching and prep players from Georgia. Looking at the Twins draft, they knew this.
2, You can’t look at this Draft alone, you have to couple this with their international signing over the last year and the Twins signed a lot of young position player, some who will have to move to 3rd, 2nd, and the corner OF as thy mature. Collage pitching was needed more at the rookie levels.
3, They picked a couple signing risks in deandre smelter and Tyler Kuresa. If they can get one of those guys away from college it’s like a extra 2nd round pick.
The Twins will have to trade to fill there holes at the upper levels and they have some pitchers to do it.
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
I believe that the Twins picked Jamie Moyer's son
as a shortstop from a Florida HS. On the other hand, maybe its his grandson.
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