Twins in on Haren; also on his no-trade list, via MLBTR

Is it weird that I take it personally that someone would put us on their no trade list? The nerve! Anyway, if the Tigers are also in, as the article purports, I hope this doesn't turn into an AL central bidding war (don't worry, they are ALSO on his no trade list, so it's nothing personal. He clearly doesn't like cold weather). They need him more than we do, I suspect, but I really don't like the idea of the Tiggers shoring up their suspect starting pitching staff.

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Agreed

Im not so sure I want Haren if he has the Twins on the No Trade list… O well,

But they say the DBax want ML ready pitching, which the Twins have an excess of, between Bakes, Slowes, Duensings, and Blackeys (Please take him!) the Bax have to want at least one of them! Then give them Revere and something else…

The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot. -Joe Posnanski

by DaTwins on Jul 23, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions

This could be a situation

Where the Yankees or another team implodes due to giving up too much. My guess is that the Texas Rangers will tear apart their staff to get Haren in the offseason.

by Jessy S on Jul 23, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions

so...

what teams Does he want to play for??

by twinscrazy_german on Jul 23, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions

Pirates.

by Jesse on Jul 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions

and orioles i suppose..

btw: we need more day games. i cant stay up past 1 all the time to watch games…. .

by twinscrazy_german on Jul 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Ditto.

During the week it’s rough.

by Jesse on Jul 23, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, at least he won’t be in the AL Central!

I bet this team ends up with Ben Sheets.

by Brady Eyestone on Jul 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions

Well he could waive the no-trade

After all, once you get past the cold, we’re very likeable. Just ask Pavano.

by dctwin on Jul 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

someone

needs to tell him the Twins are working on getting AIRWOLF!

but if that doesn’t work, just kick’em in the shins and remind him what a bad 2nd half pitcher he is…

by caluofmn on Jul 23, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the Twins must be planning to up payroll next year

For them to even be in on guys like Haren and Oswalt makes me think that. It’s probably a good time to be willing to do that. Both of these guys are better than anything that’s going to be on the FA market not named Cliff Lee. You could maybe make an argument for Lilly or Webb but I’d rather have these guys.

Point being they have big contracts but fair contracts so if they’re planning on expanding payroll even more this is a good way to spend it. It upgrades our biggest weakness, doesn’t lock the team in long term which usually guys like Oswalt and Haren would be looking at 4-5 year deals if they were FA this off season, and is a fair price as long as we dont’ overpay in prospects.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Jul 23, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions

That's true.

Maybe they’ve gotten to a certain point in revenue already this season where they can tell it’s going to hit a certain number. I don’t know. But if they’re serious about these guys, then there’s more revenue there than Rob Antony thought there’d be for next year.

by Jesse on Jul 23, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I read

the Twins have already passed 3.1 million tickets sold so maybe they can project out final revenue and if it’s over what they planned maybe they are thinking let’s spend some of next years money this year?

sorry that was alot of “maybes”

by caluofmn on Jul 23, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Have there been

Any reliable estimates on revenue generated by Target Field?

by MarshalltheIrish on Jul 24, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I've heard they can't count that fast

or that high.

by DJL44 on Jul 24, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions

One look at the 2010 Payroll

Puts the Twins at $97.3 million. Joe Mauer will likely increase it to $115 million provided everything else stays the same, in which it will not. Regardless, I would love to see the payroll hit $140 million next year. The only negative is that the Yankees could end up losing the World Series and increase their payroll to $300 million while keeping Derek Jeter out of the mix for next season.

by Jessy S on Jul 23, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions

We already talked about the 2011 payroll this week.

Using in-house options and not retaining any free agents puts the Twins around $98 million next season, and that includes Mauer.

by Jesse on Jul 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope you are kidding about Jeter

Who is John Galt?

by BCTF on Jul 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Jesse

I was talking about the roster staying the same as it is tonight.

As for Jeter, he is slumping his worst since the late 1990’s and there are much better options out there for the Yankees including the man to his right.

by Jessy S on Jul 23, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Twins on his "No trade list?"

Sounds like a prima donna.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
Minnesota Twins 2010: GAME 163 OR BUST!!!

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 23, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

ha - better than oswalt

his demand list is more absurd than santana’s was.

by dctwin on Jul 23, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

speculation

but if it were me, I’d put some destinations that were more likely than others on the list. Gives you leverage not only in terms of where you will go this year, but could mean extra $$ long term. So maybe it isn’t that he doesn’t want to be in MN, but had a hunch we’d be in the mix.

by GACTwinFan on Jul 23, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

What does AIRWOLF want per year?

Baker/ Ramos for Haren? Too much?

by rancher33 on Jul 23, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions

Not if you are talking Dusty Baker and Domingo Ramos

by Corey Koskie on Jul 23, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Haren is overrated

I’d rather bring back Joe Mays and see if he has anything left then let that perennial loser in the clubhouse. We don’t need another spare pitcher we have plenty right now. Once the Rangers drastically overpaid for Lee there ceased to be any starting pitcher of considerable value on the market. Oswalt would be slightly interesting if he didn’t require that the team pick up his laughable option for next year.

by Corey Koskie on Jul 23, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

He's changed his mind on that, apparently.

by Jesse on Jul 23, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Radke's only 37

by rancher33 on Jul 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

Even if Brad had to throw Lefty his pitching smarts would make him an upgrade over Slowey

by Corey Koskie on Jul 23, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Why does Haren have a no trade clause?

He’s not a 5-10 guy, so he must have negotiated it when he signed the extension with Arizona. Can anyone confirm?

by Adam Peterson on Jul 23, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

He doesn't

However any player can make a request on which teams they like and which they don’t. So, if Nick Punto decides he wants a trade before the end of the wavier deadline, he can get it from Bill Smith and specify that he wants to be traded to a team left on the Twins 2010 Schedule so he can kill this organization at the plate. Likewise Haren can request that his current team not trade him to a city where it tends to get cold in October. Translation, the DiamondBacks are talking to the Marlins, Rays, and Braves concerning his services.

by Jessy S on Jul 24, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions