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Tigers 10, Twins 9: Rotation Decimated, Carnage in the Bullpen and a Loss

Imagine the worst possible outcome of a baseball game that does not involve a natural disaster.  That's where the Twins were at after dropping the final game of a mid-week series to the Tigers.

Umpires have gotten a bad name around the league this year, and for good reason.  They continually blow calls as if they don't want jobs next year and are eager to be replaced by technology.  Meanwhile, with the occasional exception, both defenses played with the same gumption as the umpiring crew.  I lost count of how many double plays were botched--a number of them by the Twins, while the one that really sticks out for the Tigers was on Delmon Young's ground ball in the 11th.  Instead of ending the game, Young picked up an RBI, and we ended up going to the 13th.  But in general, this was a messy game.  On the field, on the score card and, most importantly for Minnesota, how in the hell they're going to stitch together a pitching staff the rest of the season much less just Friday night

Sidebar:  a couple of days ago we conversed in the comment threads about what it would take for the White Sox to catch the Twins.  I said the Twins would need to choke.  Well, losing half of your team to injury (Morneau, Hudson, Thome and Kubel are all still out) allows us to leapfrog "choke" and go right into "death spiral" if things don't go well.  This is condition red right now.

Scott Baker was lifted after two innings due to tendinitis in his throwing elbow.  He received a cortisone shot and will miss at least one start.  After his departure the Twins used seven more pitchers, including long man Jeff Manship (four innings), Jon Rauch, Randy Flores, Matt Guerrier, Jesse Crain...and then Brian Duensing and Nick Blackburn.

Yes, not only did the Twins lose another starting pitcher to injury, but their long man is unavailable for Friday and two other starters pitched in relief.  On top of that, Jesse Crain threw 40 pitches and won't be able to go on Friday; Matt Guerrier has thrown a lot recently and probably needs three or four days off (he'll be lucky to get two); Brian Fuentes still has a sore back; Matt Capps was unavailable Thursday due to soreness.

We'll talk about the resulting fallout, and Minnesota's options for pitching, after the jump.  Ish.

Star-divide

With Blackburn pushed back to Sunday, Minnesota was not just looking at a (very) short bullpen on Friday but they were without a starter.  Matt Fox has been called up to start on Friday, which is a start.  And according to this quote (which was prior to Fox's callup), the Twins plan on calling up a couple of relief pitchers as well.  Thank the baseball gods for September roster expansion.

"They're on the road at Triple-A, and we're trying to get a hold of everybody and trying to make decisions here," Gardenhire said. "So we'll have a starter for tomorrow's ballgame and a couple relievers coming up here. I can't tell you their names right now. We just don't have them."

If you read the link above, Phil Mackey does a great job of running through the Twins' options for callups.  We'll annotate them here.  All of these pitchers are on the 40-man roster, naturally.

Anthony Slama:  Last pitched August 27
Alex Burnett:  Last pitched August 27
Deolis Guerra:  Out with oblique strain / been terrible
Anthony Swarzak:  Threw 101 pitches on Wednesday
Glen Perkins:  Pitched two innings Thursday
Rob Delaney:  Threw one third of an inning Wednesday, but available
Pat Neshek:  Threw 1.2 innings Wednesday, but available

Going back to the Matt Fax callup:  he's had to be added to the 40-man roster.  As of this writing, no move has been made to allocate his spot, but moving Justin Morneau to the 60-day disabled list isn't out of the question.

After all of this mess, the available pitchers for Friday appear to be, after the starter Fox:  Rauch, Flores, hopefully Capps and then whichever two bullpen arms that get the call.

On the plus side, Kevin Slowey comes off the disabled list on Monday.  If he can come back and pitch like he's capable of pitching, he couple play a massive role in the Twins' results down the stretch.

In the end I'm not sure what else really needs to be said about the game itself, other than the fact that the Twins had more than enough opportunities to win (in spite of half the team being out) and Detroit simply managed to pull one out.  It was sort of like Game 163, except terribly executed, without the gravitas and the Twins lost.  Boo.

Boo boo might be more accurate.  Let's get to the game notes.

  • Jason Kubel's wrist doesn't appear to be any better.
  • Joe Mauer caught 13 innings last night, so it's not out of the question that with the injury issues up and down the lineup he gets a night at DH on Friday and again on Saturday for Pavano's start.
  • Has anybody seen J.J. Hardy's arm?  Please return it.
  • It's been lost in all this, but on one of Minnesota's botched double plays Gardy was tossed.  A lot of times a manager will do this because he wants to fire his team up, or because he adamantly believes the umpire has blown the call, but in this case he might just have been tired of watching his defense play like crap.
  • Gerald Laird?!?  Honestly, people.
  • The Twins had 15 hits on Thursday night.  They were all singles.
  • Michael Cuddyer, Jose Morales and Danny Valencia each had three hits.
  • Denard Span, Joe Mauer and Delmon Young were a combined 2-for-18 with a pair of walks.  Ugly.
  • The only Twins pitcher who wasn't charged with a run last night:  Jon Rauch.
  • That eighth inning still makes me cringe.  After seven innings, the Twins led 7-3.
  • We'll finish on a positive note:  Repko's outfield assist that nailed a runner at the plate...that was nice.

Studs

Jeff Manship
Michael Cuddyer
Danny Valencia
Jose Morales
Jason Repko

Duds

All pitches not named Manship or Rauch
Denard Span
Joe Mauer
Alexi Casilla
Delmon Young
Umpires
Injuries

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To ruin the pitching staff like that...

…and not even end up winning the bloody game is, quite literally, adding insult to what has suddenly become an alarming amount of injury. I would honestly be happy if the Twins can take their lumps with some callup arms and salvage one game out of the Texas series, maybe with Pavano on Saturday or Blackburn on Sunday. If one of those guys could go 8 or even the distance it would be HUGE. Then, things look a little more normal for KC, and 2 out of 3 or even a sweep against a bad team is possible. The Twins have days off both into and out of the Cleveland series after that, and could be reasonably healthy heading into the huge series in Chicago.

On a side note, tonight was my third game at Target Field, and in two of them the bullpen has blown a lead of 4 or more runs in the 8th inning or later (my first game was the May game against Milwaukee where it was 6-2 in the 9th and the Twins ended up winning in 12). Has that even happened more than twice? Or am I just THAT lucky?

Anyway, this is indeed condition red, but, if the Twins could somehow get through these next two series without further damage and with a few wins, the schedule does help a lot with two days off very close together, and things might still be OK. Maybe.

by DonnyDonovan on Sep 3, 2010 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Blackburn threw a good pitch to Laird, that fatso just got a good piece of it.

Rough, rough, rough game. I turned it off when it was 7-3 to watch some college football, turned on the Twins game, watched that fall apart… Then watched USC not cover and cost me my parlay… It was not the best night aside from the Gophers getting a win.

by Moojenowski on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Both the Vikings and Twins are doing everything to raise my blood pressure.

But the Twins have another thing in common with the Vikings:

They are a very, very good team capable of fighting through adversity. This was a rough game but the sky is not falling. Hopefully our pitching staff can pitch strongly through the Texas series. And remember the White Sox have a more difficult schedule than us.

by PurplePeopleEaters on Sep 3, 2010 6:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Put the blame on the FO.

Let see, we have Perkins,Nechek,Burnett,Slama,Delaney all relivers at Rochester. I was surprised not to see a relief pitcher in the Sept 1 call-ups. That was just Dumb! One more thing, I didn’t watch the game. Why was Manship pulled? He’s a starting pitcher and if he could have keep pitching he should have, but I don’t know when he last pitched.

by b1 on Sep 3, 2010 7:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Manship really wasn't stretched out.

He hasn’t pitched since August 21, and before that August 18. The last time he started a game was August 8th, for Rochester.

Considering his lack of action, four innings is commendable. Particularly allowing just one run.

The FO probably should have called up an arm or two, but at the same time they couldn’t expect that they’d run into an emergency situation like this…guys hurt, or unavailable for random aches and pains, on top of a performance where 7 relief pitchers were needed in one game.

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manship was teetering

The strikezone was becoming more elusive for Manship (though his stuff was still good). They made the right move. I think he may be meant for the bullpen with that short-arm delivery. His results are much better in the bullpen.

Guerrier got killed by ground balls with eyes. I’m not saying he was great – he can’t get the bats to miss right now – but he did get them to hit grounders. They just hit everything through the hole.

Detroit’s catcher was bad defensively. JJ Hardy had his worst night as a Twin defensively. Who the hell are half these guys on the Tigers? Ugly all around so it hurts to not get the win.

by DJL44 on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Front Office Question

When you knew that Fuentes and Capps weren’t available last night…Guerrier ineffective and worn out….and Flores basically a one out guy….why wasn’t a plane-load of pitchers on the way from AAA?
You should not have to use 2 starters to finish a game after Sept. 1.
And why didn’t you take a run at a Francouer type of player to fill in at first, have more options with Cuddyer, sit Span down for a couple of games, and have more flexibility in the outfield and at first base?
I’ll hang up and listen.

 

by rancher33 on Sep 3, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably because Rauch, Crain, Flores and Manship should have been more than enough

on a night where the baseball gods didn’t decide to hate you. You do what you have to do to get through a game with who you have…in this situation, they needed to go to two starters. Looking back it’s easy to say certain guys should have pitched longer or whatever, but you’re playing to win and not to just extend the game. Gardy, right or wrong, thought he was making the right moves for certain matchups.

The FO probably should have called up another one or two relievers. With expanded rosters there wasn’t much reason to not have that extra arm up. But the guys that we’re planning on having with us just need to get healthy.

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but this is the team we have and seems

the bull-pen has been a problem with ineffective pitchers(at times) and guy unavailible from aches and pains all year long, and Flores is a joke. They shouldn’t have sent Perkins down. He can handle long relief or short innings.

by b1 on Sep 3, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flores counts for 1 out.

So yeah, that doesn’t add up to much.

by PRegiment on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

seems easy for you to be a smart-ass

This site would be rather boring if we all agreed and no had any opinions that differed from you or Gardy’s or the FO. but I mean no harm to any one, just my opinion which no one has to agree with. The problem that some have with the FO is the roster moved to 40 men Sept 1 and we moved no pitchers up. I think thats worth some discussion, and no I didn’t watch the game and question why we didn’t move any pitchers up?

by b1 on Sep 3, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

my rant wasn't directed at you.

nor at anyone else in particular. I recognize that it looks as if I was directing it at you even though it was a reply to Jesse’s post. Sorry for that.

My life's goal: to force fischean itno using her moderator powers or, at the very least, using her witch magic to impoove my spelling.

by montanatwinsfan on Sep 3, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

I didn’t think it was, but I jumped in. If you would have used the sarcasm font I would have got a laugh out of it. The problem with post are you can’t always pick up the emotions of the poster and the personalities. As for Fox, I tried to get him higher up (actually lower)on the TT- top 50 prospects. I’m glad he’s getting a chance. Now how about getting Waldrop on the 40 man.

by b1 on Sep 3, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha....oh, Montana...

Do you let your sheep watch baseball, too?

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Just In.....

Twins recall plane-load of pitchers from AAA.

by rancher33 on Sep 3, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's an acknowledgement that they screwed up

They could have made those moves Wednesday.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Why no extra outfielder or first baseman? I guess we will find out next week when Rochester’s season is over.

by rancher33 on Sep 3, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Francour

This is the one area I thought the Twins would focus on besides SP. A guy who can hit off the bench (not Thome, who would normally be in the starting lineup these days if healthy) and play in the corners would have been ideal. Maybe not Francour, but a player in that mold—Wigginton, Cantu—guys who have a little stick and can help you out.

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twins....."Cradle of Utility Infielders"

But no back-up plan at first and centerfield.
And another thing….can we get Gerald Laird to provide bunting lessons to Span, Repko and Casilla?

by rancher33 on Sep 3, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not really the problem

The Twins aren’t losing because they don’t have enough crappy players like Francoeur. They aren’t even losing very often.

by DJL44 on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why they didn't call up more arms before last night's game

Especially if they knew Fuentes and Capps were not available.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Sep 3, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it doesn't fit here, but it is one more example of why ESPN sucks:

In one of their new articles by Senior writer Jason Stark they try to predict the major award winners. Fine by me – if you at least stick to the truth. I was not surprised that when talking about the AL Cy Young, there was no mentioning of Liriano. Afterall, ESPN isn’t a fan of Sabermatrics. But upon reading this:

And King Felix leads the league in every meaningful sabermetric pitching stat on Earth except adjusted ERA+

… it made me wonder, if by those he meant such things as FIP and xFIP – things where Francisco Liriano is leading the AL and Felix Hernandez is only third behind Cliff Lee – because if he doesn’t want to mention Liriano thats fine – but if you want to get vague like that, at least have your facts straight.

by twinscrazy_german on Sep 3, 2010 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Because we're in Europe..

…the only game I could watch in its entirety yesterday was the Yanquis/Athletics game. They brought up the Cy Young award, and put up number for four pitcher:

CC Sabathia (duh, he was pitching)
David Price
Cliff Lee
Felix Hernandez

No Liriano. I wasn’t surprised…Liriano doesn’t have enough wins to merit consideration, I guess.

We’ll see how the season finishes. But right now, Liriano has been without question one of the top three starters in the American League. Yet major markets and paint-by-numbers coverage from national outlets perpetuates the stereotype that intelligent baseball fans everywhere place on them: they’re morons.

If you want to have a conversation about the best player at anything, then you need to use the numbers that most accurately reflect whether or not said players are actually good. This movement has been going for 25+ years now, and makes more sense every year than it did the year before: wins are a terrible way to judge a pitcher.

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That quote is pretty stupid

There are dozens of meaningful saber stats that don’t have Felix at the top (FIP, xFIP, fangraphs WAR, SIERA, WHIP). But he’s a pretty good choice for the award at this point. As things stand, it’s hard to argue that whatever advantages Liriano has on rate stats aren’t overcome by the fact that Felix has thrown about 45 more innings. This has him in the lead in most non-fangraphs WAR-type stats. Hopefully Liriano continues to pitch himself into the conversation though.

by Luke in MN on Sep 3, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of ESPN,

they decided to put on the Bottomline yesterday that the Twins were 62-1 or something when leading after 8 innings this year.

42

by Armaskarhu on Sep 3, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullpen

Gardy’s bullpen usage from Thursday night dramatically affected how the bullpen could be used last night… It’s really the reason I have a problem with blowing through arms for matchup purposes, it’s nice to have fresh arms that you can throw the next night if you have a short outing by the starter or go extra innings. And how awful has Guerrier been? I’d argue that coming in with a 7-4 lead isn’t exactly a high leverage situation and I realize that he gave up only 1 ‘earned’ run, but everyone is still putting the bat on the ball against him and his control is wavering. Maybe he needs a few days off too.

by PRegiment on Sep 3, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Definitely.

If we’ve learned ANYTHING about Guerrier the last few years, it’s that he tires down the stretch. Whoever has him next year should seriously consider how he’s deployed, because he’s not a 70-appearances guy…especially not when he’s averaging about an inning per outing.

by Jesse on Sep 3, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not Gardy's best work

I want to start by saying that Gardy usually (the exception is Gurrier) does a great job with his bullpen. Despite having no names and no fireballers, he routinely manages his bullpen into the top 5 in ERA.

The last two days have been a nightmare. Gardy burned thru those two extra arms Wednesday (see my rant from yesterday on the game recap) for, at best, questionable matchups. Those two extra arms combined to give up 4 runs(2 earned) tonight. Should Crain have been left in to handle the 8th Wednesday, Flores and Gurrier might have better arms for tonight and we complete the sweep in regulation.

I was pissed on Wednesday, I’m even more upset today due to the fact that this all played out exactly as I thought it would. Entirely avoidable. Gardy still rocks with bullpan management, but baseball senility might be setting in.

by PinkiePinkerton on Sep 3, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sucked.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Sep 3, 2010 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I went to bed...

with the Twins up 7-3 thinking that despite some ragged play, that was a good sweep. Then I woke up to this.

by wcooley on Sep 3, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that sucks.

We had better go into Chicago with a purpose. They are gunning for us & we better be ready.

by iowaron on Sep 3, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depth

I was going to post today about the impressive depth exhibited in this series. And then, disaster!!! and the Twins are stuck with an emergency starter and burned two guys in the rotation. WTF?

by wcooley on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

From The Strib
But first, an update on Scott Baker.
The tendinitis has returned, and Baker left the game after two innings to have another cortisone shot. It takes a couple of days for the medicine to work through the area, and Baker probably rest a couple days after that. He’s going to need some time to get his elbow, we just don’t know how much time.
The Twins were unable to announce who will start Friday against Texas.
``Tomorrow we will find a pitcher,‘’ Gardenhire said. ``We’re looking for about 2-3 but they are on the road in Triple-A. We’re trying to get a hold of everybody and are trying to make decisions. We’ll have a starter for tomorrow and a couple of relievers. We can’t tell you their names right now. We just don’t have them.’’
One position player update: Gardy said after the game that Jason Kubel will have more X-Rays and possibly an MRI on his left wrist on Friday. They don’t like the fact there’s been little change in his condition.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Sep 3, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Gardy got ejected because he was fed up

with Jabba the Hutt’s Joe West’s craptacular umping.
Casilla clearly got the runner out at 2nd, then fumbled the transfer. In the video you can see West saying “Bullsh*t” and “You’re wrong.” No wonder Gardy got pissed.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Sep 3, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Some interview with some umpire I heard about...

The ump was asked how often he made a wrong call behind the plate. The ump said, “Never. Nothing’s a ball or strike until I SAY it’s a ball or strike.” That’s a guy like Joe West’s attitude. Being wrong simply isn’t an option for him.

by Luke in MN on Sep 3, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

SHIT!

Being a professional ump/ref is one of the hardest, most pressure filled (excluding life or death type situations, i.e. ER doctor) public job there is. NO one is ever happy and every action or decision is scrutinized and complained about. They are constantly traveling and every morning they get to wake up to yet another jackass finding yet another way to complain about something they did, or didn’t do.

West screwed up last night, but to expect that he is going to say I was wrong in the middle of the game with the manager in his face – ridiculous.

When the league shows him the replay there will be time enough for him to admit that he made a mistake. If he doesn’t, I am sure the league has ways of handling that too.

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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 3, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, it's a tough life.

Has an umpire ever said he was wrong in the middle of a game? Anyway, it wasn’t that big a call; it’s not like it decided the game or anything. The defense and pitching did that… I doubt if the league will be that interested in reviewing a close call at second like that.

"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"

by rubberbiscuit on Sep 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't expect him to admit he's wrong in the middle of the game.

And I don’t expect him to get all calls correct or even that call in particular (although it was a pretty bad call). Nothing about having a pressure-filled, generally underappreciated job makes it impossible to be an arrogant jerk. That’s what I think Joe West is, and I think the video evidence is pretty compelling.

by Luke in MN on Sep 3, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

West makes horrible decisions before, during, and after the game

Before: Allowing the Sox-KC game a few weeks ago to start despite obviously imminent storms
During: Too many to list, but his strike zone is brutal and sounds like he blew a call last night
After: Lay off the post-game buffet Joe.

by moroots on Sep 3, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct on all three.

The Twins were probably fortunate to be in a close game though. Anytime you get out-homered five or six to none, it’s not a good sign…

"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"

by rubberbiscuit on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

West is an angry man

but I would be too if my chin swallowed my neck…

by caluofmn on Sep 3, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

umpires should be charged with errors

someone mentioned the idea after the galarraga not so perfect game and i didn’t think it made that much sense but i’ve changed my mind. charge the error to the umpire so it’s not a hit or an error to the player who made the play but an error to the umpire who is the one who actually screwed up.

the reason i changed my mind on this is so that you could have umpiring statistics. baseball is full of so many statistics for everything but there is no stats to measure how good an umpire is. you could do ump%=correct calls/total calls. and then we’d have some solid data to demand that joe west get fired.

you could also have a separate stat for ball/strike calls which would put pressure on umps to call a more uniform strike zone

by gardy's dog house on Sep 3, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great idea

I really like this. Make it like BA and a call that could go either way would be like a walk and not count against it.

You are correct that with SO many stats in baseball, that they have not branched out to the umpires yet is a little amazing. I’m sure it’s coming.

I’m not too concerned about the uniform strikezone. As long as a blue is consistant, I don’t really care what their zone looks like. Even so, consistency can still be a tracked stat.

by PinkiePinkerton on Sep 3, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come onnnn, its more fun if you lose, we get game 163 WOO!

Don’t you want another game!! Also, Joe West. He sucks. Welcome to our pain.

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MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 3, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

For a fact

Shouldn’t MLB be doing an umpire cleanout soon? I remember reading about one they did in 1999 where Angel Hernandez, despite being probably the worst ump at that time, somehow kept his job. If I read correctly it comes at a multi-year interval, around 10 or so.

If (when) it happens, Joe West and Phil Cuzzi need to go. They’ve really embarrased the game in the past two seasons.

by MarshalltheIrish on Sep 3, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe West would top my list

That whole crew sucks, but West is the worst. He missed four calls last night. That’s four out of seven. He has missed a LOT of high-profile calls in the last couple of years. And he’s an arrogant prick to boot.

By the way, Molina’s strike zone was a joke. He didn’t call one pitch at the knees all night. Pitchers need that pitch called. Why was it a five-hour game? Molina, primarily.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Sep 3, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the most egotistical ump in the business

The way he ran the Red Sox/Yankees game earlier this year (which got as much coverage as the BP spill) was just the beginning.

by MarshalltheIrish on Sep 3, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't panic

Here’s why

1. We’re up 3.5 games
2. White Sox play in Boston this weekend
3. THIS IS THE YEAR!!!

The beard abides.

by Jason Kubel's Beard on Sep 3, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

By far the worst game of the year, and I don't know where to begin

First, I too thought of Game 163 when I saw just the score and extra innings, sans ugly details. If only!

This is like the Angels game where we lost Mahay x 100,000,000: It isn’t the loss that hurts, it’s everything that happened in it. Bad umpiring (Joe West’s ego), missed opportunities like Hardy’s error (isn’t his defense supposed to be his strong point?), losing Baker to injury in the midst of a crucial winning streak for him, our bullpen failing, no Capps or Fuentes to stop the bleeding, screwing up the rotation right on the day we start a crucial series against Texas, and…Gerald Laird getting the GW homer? Injury-wise, I’d say the cast of “Jackass” is in better shape than the Twins. It feels like the Red Sox season happening to us in two or three weeks. Thank god Nathan, Condrey, and Mahay are the only ones that are completely inaccessible.

by MarshalltheIrish on Sep 3, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

On the upside (which will soon go down with soreness as well)

This could be the ultimate adversity test for the Twins. Analysts have been right to praise the team for being so consistent in spite of key injuries like Morneau, so if they can do a decent job legging out the next week or so until a bunch of guys come back, that will speak dividends about the team as a whole.

At least getting Slow Ride back on Monday is a start.

by MarshalltheIrish on Sep 3, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

In the 11th inning I gave up

I wanted us to just wave the white flag and go home. The win was less important than NOT PUTTING ANYMORE PITCHERS OUT THERE! Egads, the injuries are piling up. I’m not sure how one exactly concedes a major league game. I guess put Thome in to pitch or something.

by dctwin on Sep 3, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

When it reached the 12th, I have to admit I was done too

When the Twins go into extras, it’s usually fun to hang in there and live and die with every moment. Not this one.

by MarshalltheIrish on Sep 3, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually, someone did have a good night with the glove

i see about 5 reasons there to keep starting repko when baker pitches.

and you can put it on the boaaaaaard YES, HELL YES

by yefrem on Sep 3, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Repko

should swing harder at the plate. That way when he hits the ball one out of every 10 swings it will go even further!

But in all seriousness, he has been awesome defensively. That was a great throw last nite. I thought he had no chance.

by wcooley on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks

Let’s talk about something else. Did anyone read David Brooks today? Maybe his dumbest column ever. For a smart guy, he sure has some duds.

I read that the new Drew Barrymore movie is supposed to be solid. Maybe take the lady rather than sitting through the Twins trying to squeeze 5 innings out of Matt Fox?

Can’t get mind off loss…..sticking in brain like last year’s Oakland debacle…..must distract self…..

by wcooley on Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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