Game 139: Royals @ Twins
by Adam Peterson on Sep 7, 2010 6:30 PM EDT
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Know Thine Enemy: Royals Review
The Twins come into tonight riding a four game winning streak and a 6-1 record on their current 9-game home stand. Problem is, the Chicago White Sox have won 7 straight and the Twins division lead stands at 3.5 games. Key to winning the division will be to continue pounding teams like the Kansas City Royals, who at 57-80 have an almost mirror image of the Twins current 81-57 win-loss record. So far in 2010, the Twins have pounded away on the Royals, to the tune of a 10-3 record and 103-57 advantage in runs scored. On paper, tonight looks like a big pitching advantage for the Twins, but a wise man once told me baseball games aren't played on paper.
What more can I say about Francisco Liriano? He's been every bit as good this year as any of us could have hoped. More than a strikeout an inning, pretty much healthy all year, the slider's been nasty, he's keeping the ball on the ground, and he's only given up three home runs on the season. Probably the only reason he's not getting more consideration for the AL Cy Young Award is luck, as Liriano's ERA is about a run higher than his FIP (2.31) and xFIP (3.01), and he's had the bullpen blow many leads, including last week's 7 inning, zero run gem. Liriano has pitched one game this year against Kansas City, 7 innings of 3 hit baseball and 6 strikeouts vs 0 walks in the Twins 19-1 victory in late July.
Brian Bannister has spent the last month on the DL with a bum shoulder, and it sounds like he'll be on a strict pitch count tonight. Then again, the way he's pitched all season, it may not be a pitch count that gets him out of the game. In his second to last start before being shut down, Bannister was rocked by the Twins for 11 hits and 5 runs over six innings in a 6-4 Twins victory.
I'll post lineups after the jump, once they are available.
Lineups here...
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Number I'm watching for Liriano: .163
That’s his HR allowed per 9 innings pitched and it’s the best such number by a qualifying pitcher since 1981, when Nolan Ryan (.121 in 149 innings) and Dave Righetti (.085 in 105 innings) beat it. No pitcher has put up a number under Liriano’s rate in over 150 innings since Reggie Cleveland did it in 1976, and Liriano could easily best his .159 if he keeps denying the long balls. Otherwise you have to go back to the mid-40s to find a pitcher with a better HR rate. But that’s a totally different era of baseball you’re talking about. (And you can keep going back and find your Walter Johnsons, etc., putting up 0.000s, but that’s when the baseballs had nickel cores and the average American male was about 4.5 feet tall.) THIS IS HISTORIC, PEOPLE!
Bannister and Hochevar splitting pitching duties due to rehabbing some injuries
by Arnidor on Sep 7, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
I'm excited about KC's split pitching duties
Because it gives the Twins offense two first innings essentially.
Tigers, PLEASE don't lose again tonight.
I’ll beg if need be. Just…stop sucking.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
WIN TWINS
Also: I hope the massive wind in the Minnesota area does not eff with Frankie’s historic HR allowance.
Also also: I’m still so pissed at the Tigers for last Thursdays game that I hope their game with the Sux goes 19 innings and gets called due to weather.
I always loved that one.
by FoulJack on Sep 7, 2010 7:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's good.
Hopefully Verlander can settle down and be more efficient. He’s at 57 pitches after 3IP. Don’t want it to turn into a bullpen battle (even if the Sux’s bullpen gets stretched).
Twins call up Perkins and Neshek, happy I am
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
1. Denard Span, CF
2. Orlando Hudson, 2B
3. Joe Mauer, C
4. Jason Kubel, RF
5. Michael Cuddyer, 1B
6. Jim Thome, DH
7. Delmon Young, LF
8. J.J. Hardy, SS
9. Matt Tolbert, 3B
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
Does anyone know the status on Morneau?
Or should I give up all hope.
There will be no status on Morneau until his return is imminent
(if he returns).
They just don’t want to play an expectation game.
Cool, thanks
Ever an optimist, I still have my hopes up.
Baltimore 5, New York 1
CC Sabathia is pitching, and Orioles won the previous two games of the series
Lineups from Joe C, plus this gamenote
Fuentes (lower-back stiffness) didn’t feel great when he threw today, so they’ll try again Thursday, Manager Ron Gardenhire said. Gardy also said his best guess for 3B Danny Valencia’s return is Friday.
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
Weird.
Coomer mentioned that Fuentes was available today.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
plus, tolbert has played as well as danny was playing, so cautious is a-ok
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
yay!!! baseball!
i worked the fair all last week, this is the first game i have watched in forever! and its larry! so pumped
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
liriano
gardy always calls him larry
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
link to what your talking about?
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
I reado Minn Sports on Yahoo, Twinkie Town and DN
Gardy is quoted on The Team report on Yahoo. Sorry I don’t know much about making a link from that article. Lame I know
he must have watched hrbek the other day
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Drink 10 beers and try to play a legends game?
by Daver_Gardner on Sep 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he saw the divot after hrbek dove
and thought better of diving anymore
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
.399 OBP so far this year.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Understanding your personell
What a concept!
Understanding your personell
What a concept!
Jimmers climbing the flagpole?
I’d pay to see that
by DavidRF on Sep 7, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Miller is the first MLB-er named "Jai"
Actually its his middle name.
If he becomes super famous, “Miller” might replace “alai” on crossword puzzle clues.
royals baseball
clap clap clap clap clap
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Butler hurt,
fischean rejoices
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quietly.
and secretly hoping he’s okay.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
because of your secret crush?
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
White Sox hate >>>> Billy Butler hate/crush.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No secret crush...just annoyed respect.
And the White Sox hate is for real.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
get em'
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
B squared?
the BB gun? Bdubs?
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
bdubs doesn't work never mind.
that would be BW haha
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
B cubed doesn't quite have the same ring to it
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
and increase the chances of Ben Revere playing
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
north carolina?
Hmmm… I could see it being the second week of classes, but not week three. Huh, your semester must be over by Thanksgiving almost
College students have been in for a couple weeks now
:(
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Oh, weird.
This is my third week of classes as well…and I’m in MN. :\
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
State Fair
The U and the colleges around the State Fair usually start after Labor day. The rest of the state has been in for a couple of weeks. At least, that is how it used to be and why…
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
incidentally,
the Minnesota state fair is so much better than the N.C. one. Plus the N.C. one is in October which is silly.
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Also have 16 weeks.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
The Devil, you say.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
hova!
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
They pitched him right down the middle
I know they just walked a guy, but with Delmon you figure they should waste the first pitch to see if he chases it.
Good to have you back, Demon.
We missed you.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Nice hit, Delmon!
More RBI’s for you :)
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
These Royals Don't Seem Very Good.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Yes, good news for now
But bad news for later this week.
That is the way of the Tao of Baseball, I suppose.
Balance in all things, unless you’re an Orioles or Yankees fan.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
JJ!!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
HEY EVERYBODY STOP POSTING!
You are interrupting my streaming video! :(
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Yes
He’s been terrific, and I think he gives us the flexibility to possibly flip one of Cuddyer/Kubel/Young while we wait for Revere/Benson/Hicks to be ready.
Sox fans have gotta be hatin' it
They win 7 in a row to pick up half a game. Now they’re getting beat by the Kitties, while the Twins get the Royals at home. Life just isn’t fair, as if I cared.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Tolbert getting in some good swings lately
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
Agreed
I was always a bit pessimistic when he got called up or put in the line-up but I’m starting to warm up to him. Of course the last week he’s had will do that to you.
Yay Twins!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Mr. Miller = bad D.
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He kind of Jai Alai'ed it
Yes? Yes? Or no?
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Hank Aaron and Frank Robinson
They’re at the US Open tonight and were just interviewed. Apparently they LOVE women’s tennis.
So really, no down-side.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
that's why I always cry when I hear baby pig squeals
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Erm...
Welcome to Twinkie Town? :\
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Haha, agreed.
And montana’s well known around these parts for his barnyard interests. His wife may or may not be of the sheep persuasion.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
just forget you ever read that, math boy.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So let's see how Frankie does with the 7-run lead.
I do remember the unmentionable game in Cleveland in 1984, I think it was.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
I'm hoping for Twins-Rays in the first round since Tampa is only a short drive from me.
Fly to MN for the first games, then back to FL for the Tampa games.
so much for his record chasing HR rate
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did I deserve that?
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Crud, that sucked
Tough pitch to hit out
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
I blame society
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
We need to trade Morales for Josh Fields!!!
Stat! Free Josh Fields!
Morales?
We need him around once we trade away Mauer for Fields. I mean, Mauer doesn’t even have a homerun today
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Free Josh Fields!
With every $25 purchase. At participating dealers.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
4 innings, 1 run allowed...good job Frankie
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
communist sympathizer!
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mouse might have a better WHIP
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
The only problem with Hochevar is that he isn't very good.
From the Royals’ perspective, of course. I don’t mind at all.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
His name is fun to say.
So that’s something.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Contributions
Every player except Thome already has a hit, and he’s got two walks. And by the 4th inning. Love to see the balance in production.
Gardy's quote for you AJ...can't do links but I can cut and paste.
“That was the worst thing you can do,” Gardenhire said Monday. “I thought that was really terrible to put the highlights of the White Sox up there in our game.”
The White Sox scored four runs in the ninth to beat the Red Sox, pulling temporarily within three games of the Twins in the American League Central. Fans, and Twins players, then knew Minnesota would have to win to retain its 3 1/2-game lead.
“We’ve never done that, and I hope they never do that again,” Gardenhire continued. "That brought everybody down; the crowd went pfffffffft. We don’t need that. This is our game. We’re playing our game. We don’t care what the White Sox do until we play them.
“Scoreboard watching is one thing; having White Sox highlights during our game is a joke.”
Gardenhire said he asked general manager Bill Smith to see if he could stop it from happening again.
“I don’t even care if they show (the White Sox) getting beat. It doesn’t matter. I’d rather stay with our team. Let’s watch our team,” Gardenhire said. “If they show highlights of games, that’s fine up there. But I thought that was ridiculous.”
oh ok, he was talking about highlights being shown in the stadium
he’s right imo.
and for links, just copy the url and paste it, for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cXgvc7SYTA
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
I realize I'm opening the door to incredibly poor taste, but...
What do you suppose Hochevar means in his native language?
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
I've been there, but never spoken to the locals
What language do they speak there?
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
So he's from Czechoslovenia?
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Instead of a brutal civil war, they had a pissy slap-fight and made their friends choose sides.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
You're thinking of Czechoslovakia?
Slovenia is the country we played and should have beaten in the 2nd game of the world cup
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joke.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a good one, particularly, but still...
Thanks for noticing.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
No, actually.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Sometimes I play along even if I get the joke
I can’t find the meaning of Hochevar unfortunately.
I do know that “David” means “Beloved” because everybody loves me. :-)
I must admit to an impure motive in starting this.
I was going to suggest “Hochevar” meant “chevar of Hos”, which while fairly non-specific, is clearly in bad if ill-defined taste. Sorry about all this.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
No problem.
As Groucho said in Animal Crackers, “Well, all the jokes can’t be good. You’ve got to expect that.”
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
I'm just wondering WHY.
I mean, why does he shave hos? Can’t they do it themselves?
#badtaste, #yesIwentthere
Go Twins!
Not a jinx
White Sox have one inning left, and they’re losing by 5.
If they come back and win today, them I am officially scared of them
YOU HIT JIMMERS?!
Unacceptable, Hochevar. Unacceptable. The Demon will make you pay.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
haha thome didn't make the slightest attempt
to get out of the way
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Shhh.
It worked. :)
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
yeah very well actually
im proud
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Homeplate umpire just got dropped in the Detroit game.
pitch hit him right in the neck/collarbone area without getting any glove.
didn't I tell you all to stop commenting!????????????!!
The inetrnets out here cannot stream my web stream video stuff when youall post so much.
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I seem to be doing it to myself, too.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
SW MN hasn't received those high speed tubes yet either?
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Though I hail from nearly South Dakota, I only live 40 blocks or so south of TGT Field
But no, crummy interweb tubes.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
SW MN only one small technological step ahead of Montana
but you got nothing on our sheep.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that's a distinction I wouldn't think to claim from youse guys.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
I wouldn't mind if it were
He has been working ahead of the count well today
RBI
Yeah, it’s a overrated stat, but it’s hard to find a lot of 115 RBI seasons (like Delmon is on pace for) that were bad seasons.
Delmon
It’s true that Delmon has only compiled 1.3 WAR (fangraphs) this season and 100 RBI is obviously not a guarantee for a good season. As a rule, there’s a lot more positive 100 RBI seasons than negative.
I will admit, Dante Bichette’s line of .298/.354/.541 with 34 HR and 133 RBI while being a giant suckhole of value is a remarkably impressive feat in it’s own way.
He was a butcher in LF and pre-humidor Coors was crazy
Delmon’s not that bad offensively and I think there may be some issues with WAR’s defensive weightings. I think they weight defense too much.
Holy hell
He had to have been atrocious in the field
Home/road splits at Coors were insane
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Park Factor was 127 that year
Bichette’s OPS+ was only 102 which is just a tick below Cuddyer this year.
At one point, Rockies pitchers had a 6 something ERA
but close to 100 ERA+, because of the park. Check out those park factors… Baseball played in Coors Field around 1999 was barely baseball.
Very true
OBP is extremely valuable in such a high-offense environment, and he didn’t walk much. Another thing is the outfield: if you’re a good fielder in a big park (e.g. Franklin Gutierrez), you have a lot of opportunities to accumulate defensive value. If you’re a bad fielder in a huge park (e.g. Bichette), you have a lot of opportunities to suck, which is probably even worse than DHing.
Joe Carter 1990 is more impressive than Bichette in my opinion
Carter had Alomar and Gwynn batting in front of him.
Yep
Hopefully we see some positional replacements here as well—it’s a good opportunity to get lots of guys some additional rest.
revere!
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
The British are coming, the British are coming!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
I honestly wonder...
How the Rock Cats would do against this Royals team.
Go Twins!
They might have a better defense
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I found out recently that Ben Revere throws righty.
For years, I thought he threw lefty. I always knew he batted left, though.
6 innings sounds enough, heck 5 innings would work, but I doubt Gardy does that.
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
Just now GameDay tells us Billy Butler got an owie on his hand.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Tolbert>Mauer.
It’s math and stuff.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
That's just the beginning of a glorious career...
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Rubes... Bert can't be president...
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
berts campaign slogan
“more than 100 pitches or we call you a girls name!”
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
or question your sexual preferences
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
having more than one is a clue
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
only if we're talking same species.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm open-minded, but that farm stuff kind of freaks me out man...
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by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
as it should
montana is clearly one of a kind
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
ok, I'll stop
wouldn’t want to offend your delicate sensibilities.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That's enough of the politics, DicknBert.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
its the tolbert report!
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Ugh, finally.
Effing White Sox.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
holyyy shiiit
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Seriously, Jim Thome?!
Holy crap. Thank you for coming to MN!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
It's not fair for the other team
Just walk him every time up
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
Tied for 8th all-time.
Awesome.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
At this rate he'll catch A-Rod before the end of the year
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
another meaningless HR in an 8 run game, blah, blah, blah
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Finally
I was wondering when the laggard would get a hit.
It's cute
Whenever Thome goes yard Delmon tries to swing for the fences
yeah, I think gardy would be wise to slap in morales and a few other replacements here.
Delmon Young is my new Bicycle.
by Zack Carlson on Sep 7, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I’d like to see Mauer, Hudson, and Kubel sit too. Maybe Hardy as well. An injury here would seem really wasteful.
That would be interesting!
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by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Morneau comes back, the playoffs will be interesting
Personally, I’d sit Cuddyer vs right-handers and Kubel vs left-handers, but I’m not sure Gardy could bring himself to do that.
hemmoroids
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by Zack Carlson on Sep 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely be interesting.
You can’t sit Thome vs. most RHP. Platoon Cuddyer / Kubel in right but I doubt it’ll happen.
I can also imagine that IF Morneau can comeback, he won’t be an everyday guy to start.
I'd bet he'd platoon DH 1b
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by Zack Carlson on Sep 7, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
is that a large or small amount?
what would be the league average on that
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
His "clutch" stats are not impressive
Partly because he’s walked a lot, but his numbers is blowout games are absurdly high.
He still has a .950 OPS with runners on base though. I wouldn’t complain. :-)
Our pals at SSS are cranky tonight.
Here’s a taste:
" Their front office is so dumb…
that they drafted Mauer when they could have baseball’s greatest pitcher, Mark Prior.
And,
" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look the Twins only got two more runs because Thome was clogging the bases and only made it to 3rd. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Stupid Twins!"
Too much fun.
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
Kind of sweet, isn't it?
"I'm sure those even-tempered, model railroading, freckly f*cks are yucking it up over at Twinkie town." - by Rhubarb [from SouthSideSox] on Aug 10, 2010 8:38 PM CDT
ok, that's good Gardy...got OCT to think about
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
and an athletic cup.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
my bad, apparently he's just happy to see me.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
AT THE PLATE!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
HE TOOK A PITCH!
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
STRUCK OUT!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
With his engaging (per Dickbert) personality
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by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
ohmygosh
I’m so nervous for him! could he BE any more excited?!
Get him a paper bag!
He appears to be breathing a little heavy there. Don’t hyperventilate, son, lots of ball left to be played in your career!
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
Okay, back to the minors with him!
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
I know, right?
Gawd, I mean it’s like he’d never even been in AAA before. cough
Go Twins!
Now he'll talk to Sid and get a coupon for a silver butterknife steak...
Then he’ll know he’s in the big leagues…
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by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yessir
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Always good to get your first K out of the way early
That’s my theory ;-)
Let's Go Twins!
Minnesota Wild Off-season: In Fletch We Trust.
Early scouting videos of him...
had him waving his bat back in forth while waiting for the pitch to come. Some sort of timing mechanism but coaches usually try to get rid of that if they can.
he's got a really crazy swing, alot like Punto, when Punto is going bad
Chase Utley is a Nick Punto-type player, but with power--Bert Blyleven
That's nice
But i’d like to see a sub for Hudson or Hardy…those two are so damn fragile.
They're all fragile this year
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
KK k'ed
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice appearance, Perk.
Do that again anytime.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
who knows what we could get for Perk?
Right now I’m glad we didn’t trade him!
by b1 on Sep 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Prob. not too much
Seems a little injury prone and that whole fiasco with suing the Twins didn’t help him much. Not to mention his what…4-9 record in Rochester?
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
We'll call up the Raiders
maybe Al Davis will give up a couple good power arms and a 1st rounder
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well maybe not zero,
but I think your original point has merit. At the end of last season people wanted to trade him even though his value was very low. The Twins put him in extended rehab in the minors this year, and while he struggled for awhile he now has regained more value than he had at the end of last season. arguably.
so what could we get for him now?
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
NESHEK!
Yay!
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Um...throw strikes though, please.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
I know he's struggling, but it's great to see him out there...
A comeback from him would be fantastic
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Kubes looks a little drunk out there
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
Ack, Pat.
Strikes. Throw ’em.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Yayyyyyy!!!
Good night all around.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
Neshek with the save!
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
8 run save
counts in my book, and in my heart.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Magic Number is Tolbert?
We are surely screwed
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by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
LMT?
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He regrets
eating all those burritos before game 163 last year
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by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
Ummm...?
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." -Ichiro
this cat is pissed.
animals, especially cats, want nothing to do with clothing
oh man is that funny
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I have 6 cats and a 5 yr old daughter, and she has never managed to piss off one of our cats that bad.
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Great day
Twins win, White Sox and Yankees lose
don't forget the White Sox :)
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by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the Yankees
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
by rubberbiscuit on Sep 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and we managed to keep pace with Detroit
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by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Great run by our hometown ballclub... pennant race...
and tomorrow morning we can tune into AM 1500 and catch the latest Jets news… ad nauseum
"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"
Gordon: "Nee-shaque"
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by montanatwinsfan on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Cy Liriano
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by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
I feel a whole lot better now
than I did this morning
A 4.5 game lead with a magic number of 20 > 3.5 game lead with a magic number of 22
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Sep 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
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