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Tale of the Tape: Troy Glaus vs Jorge Cantu

It's no surprise that the Twins have a backup plan in the event that they can't ink Jim Thome to a contract that suits both his agent and the Minnsota organization.  The names brought up are two names which have been common in discussion around Twinkie Town for some time, namely the aging Troy Glaus and the enigmatic Jorge Cantu.

First thing's first, we need to get one thing straight:  this post does not necessarily advocate the addition of Glaus or Cantu over Thome or, for that matter, Vladimir Guerrero.  This is simply a way to look at both of those backup options by glancing through a few of the more notable numbers to see how they might fit with our 2011 Twins.


Troy Glaus

#25 / Third Base / Atlanta Braves

6-5

240

R

R

Aug 03, 1976

 

Is it just me or does Glaus look a bit like Jack during season three of LOST?


Only recently has Glaus' name come up in rumors, and he's come up with Cantu on two occasions.  Both players seem to be backup options not just for the Twins, but for the Padres.

Glaus turned 34 in August, and in recent years he's had to overcome not just age but injury.  He missed (essentially) all of 2009 to a right shoulder injury, and coming back this year met with varying levels of success.  A very slow start was followed by good months in May and June, before July and August saw him regress to the point where the Braves dealt for Derrek Lee.  At this point Glaus was relegated to bench duties, starting just twice in September where he was 4-for-15 during the entire month.  His seasonal highlight may have come on June 13th, when he blasted a pair of home runs against the Twins.


Jorge Cantu

#8 / First Base / Texas Rangers

6-3

210

R

R

Jan 30, 1982

 

Jorge Cantu:  Backup infielder with pop, or the equivalent of Luke Hughes?


Cantu, 29, has sandwiched a couple of good seasons in between a few lackluster ones.  At his best he's a guy who can give you 40+ doubles and 25+ home runs if playing full time, but those are seasons where, for whatever reason, he's also been able to handle a breaking ball.  I can't say for sure whether a successful offensive campaign and the ability to hit a slider are related, but no doubt it helps.

2010 wasn't one of Cantu's good seasons, and after he was dealt to the eventual AL Champion Rangers he wasn't a factor.  Still, the potential is there for a good year, particularly if the Twins wouldn't have to rely on him on an everyday basis.  While Glaus would primarily slot into a DH/backup first baseman role, Cantu could potentially back up third base as well.  Neither of these guys will field their position particularly well, but versatility may play slightly in Cantu's favor.

After the jump, the tale of the tape.

Star-divide

Line 'em up.

Cantu 2010 Glaus        Cantu Career Glaus
28 Age 33 29 Age 34
$6,000,000 Salary $1,750,000 Salary
DH/1B/3B Position DH/1B DH/1B/3B Position DH/1B
127 Games 128 790 Games 1537
515 PA 483 3239 PA 6355
29 2B 18 199 2B 293
11 HR 16 101 HR 320
.305 wOBA .331 .330 wOBA .364
.695 OPS .744 .766 OPS .847
.234 AVG vsL .243 .272 AVG vsL .273
.286 OBP vsL .371 .323 OBP vsL .396
.362 SLG vsL .391 .451 SLG vsL .542
.266 AVG vsR .243 .275 AVG vsR .248
.311 OBP vsR .330 .319 OBP vsR .344
.405 SLG vsR .405 .444 SLG vsR .471

That's a lot to look at, but don't rush.  You've got plenty of time.

Of course, looking at what a guy has done in the past is just part of the picture.  Taking injuries and age into account play against Glaus, but if consistency and track record is your thing then Cantu doesn't look too pretty either.  But these kinds of issues are to be expected because neither of these guys are the complete package.  If they were, we wouldn't be comparing them to see who's the better bench option.

It's going to be easy to look at each of these guys and just pick one.  Maybe you like Glaus as a pure role player, but you prefer Cantu as a guy who could start for a week or two straight while somebody is on the disabled list.  Maybe Glaus has a more definable role, where Cantu is more of a wild card.  Chances are, whichever guy you feel fits better for the Twins is probably the guy you'd prefer to have, because this isn't an open-and-shut comparison.

Going forward, Bill James sees a slightly better year coming from Glaus (.779 OPS, .345 wOBA, .187 ISO while continuing to both walk and strike out a lot) than from Cantu (.762 OPS, .329 wOBA, .168 ISO while walking and striking out less).

Both of these guys won't sign for more than $3 million guaranteed, and it's quite likely at this point that they'll be lucky to find an offer worth $2 million.  All financial considerations being equal, who would you choose?

Poll
You've seen how they measure up. Between Glaus and Cantu, who do you choose?
Troy Glaus
167 votes
Jorge Cantu
254 votes

421 votes | Poll has closed

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You should have given us another option...Neither!

…that would be my choice. I don’t like either, even if it is for minimal dollars which I am certain it wouldn’t be.

by roger13 on Jan 13, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

I know there are better options out there still, but I’d still take either of these guys for the bench. I know Cmath will disagree with me, but I’d still rather give these two a shot before turning to Luke Hughes.

by Jesse on Jan 13, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Glaus, and it isn't close

Glaus could easily match Thome’s numbers from last year.

by AM. on Jan 13, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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both would be a great addition to our horrible bench hopefully we sign a few relievers too Jose Veras would be a nice addition as he throws in the mid 90s.

by nar22 on Jan 13, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Glaus, if forced to choose...

… but I’m going to stick with my oft-stated preference for Marcus Thames above either of these choices, for the role this particular roster spot would be asked to fill.

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Thames is a good option, too.

And he shouldn’t be any more expensive that the above two guys.

by Jesse on Jan 13, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably less expensive

Thames played for $900K for the Yankees last year. Not going to double his money.

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither is ideal to me...

but if forced to choose, I’d take Cantu.

1) I think Glaus is about done. Look at his 3-month long HORRIFIC slump last year.
2) Cantu’s more versatile.
3) Glaus is supposedly a terrible clubhouse guy.

by DJSkillz on Jan 13, 2011 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Have to wonder...

… how either of these guys would react to being asked to take a paycut and a role anticipating a 30-40% reduction in plate appearances. I know Thome was asked to do the same thing a year ago and handled it professionally. Not everyone would approach it with the same attitude. Some guys would say, “cut in pay, cut in my role… cut my effort.”

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

I think Glaus would be a professional about it.

I’m not sure about Cantu.

That’s completely subjective, though.

by Jesse on Jan 13, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

troyglaus says:

its pronounced house! you know? like, when you were watching full HOUSE but your wife wanted to watch dr. HOUSE and you wouldn’t change the channel or clean the HOUSE so she DFA’ed you to the dog HOUSE!

and you can put it on the boaaaaaard YES, HELL YES

by yefrem on Jan 13, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

My Thome replacements, in order of preference

Off the top of my head…
1. Thames
2. Andreuw Jones
3. Glaus
4. Cantu
5. Hughes
6. Vlad

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

"Andreuw"?

Who snuck that e in on me? Andruw Jones at #2

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good list.

But why Hughes over Guerrero?

by Jesse on Jan 13, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hughes/Guerrero

I just don’t think Vlad would succeed in Target Field. His HR power is all coming from his upper body now and doesn’t pull the ball like he did when he still had legs. If it’s a choice between overpaying Vlad for what I would expect to be disappointing results and giving Hughes a shot, I’d rather see what Hughes can do (though if we give Hughes a spot, I might prefer it be Tolbert’s spot).

by Jim Crikket on Jan 13, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd hit a lot of singles in the gap

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 13, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think either of these options are better than trusting Thome to hold up another season.

The FO has suddenly turned over a long standing policy that they don’t overpay past sell-by dates. And while I respect loyalty, if we actually have a budget, there’s better ways to use the money.

by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 13, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Would be nice to have a little insurance for 3B. At this point if Valencia is injured or struggles, we have Tolbert.

by ben2 on Jan 13, 2011 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Don't forget Cuddyer.

Gardy proved last year that he’d use him.

by Jesse on Jan 13, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, Cantu I guess

I picked him because he has a little more versatility and I think he’s a more consistent hitter. I feel Glaus has huge monthly slumps, while Cantu does too, but not as much.

I’m with cmath though, if we can’t find someone better than these guys, I’d rather just go with Hughes instead.

Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD

by Twins33 on Jan 13, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

I picked Cantu

I like his versatility, and the fact that he could very well bounce back. But I would like to see Hughes stay healthy and get a shot depending on how spring training goes. Its all guesswork at this point. Wake me up in a month

"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart

by Camraman926 on Jan 14, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

I like Cantu but feel he's redundange to Hughes

Maybe that’s not completely true but I’d rather try to use the money to get a useful bullpen piece than sign what is essentially a mediocre bat, poor glove to backup the infield. I think Hughes has a relatively good shot at matching the production Cantu would put up, so he’d be just as useful in a backup role.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Jan 14, 2011 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

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