Tale of the Tape: Troy Glaus vs Jorge Cantu
It's no surprise that the Twins have a backup plan in the event that they can't ink Jim Thome to a contract that suits both his agent and the Minnsota organization. The names brought up are two names which have been common in discussion around Twinkie Town for some time, namely the aging Troy Glaus and the enigmatic Jorge Cantu.
First thing's first, we need to get one thing straight: this post does not necessarily advocate the addition of Glaus or Cantu over Thome or, for that matter, Vladimir Guerrero. This is simply a way to look at both of those backup options by glancing through a few of the more notable numbers to see how they might fit with our 2011 Twins.
Only recently has Glaus' name come up in rumors, and he's come up with Cantu on two occasions. Both players seem to be backup options not just for the Twins, but for the Padres.
Glaus turned 34 in August, and in recent years he's had to overcome not just age but injury. He missed (essentially) all of 2009 to a right shoulder injury, and coming back this year met with varying levels of success. A very slow start was followed by good months in May and June, before July and August saw him regress to the point where the Braves dealt for Derrek Lee. At this point Glaus was relegated to bench duties, starting just twice in September where he was 4-for-15 during the entire month. His seasonal highlight may have come on June 13th, when he blasted a pair of home runs against the Twins.
Cantu, 29, has sandwiched a couple of good seasons in between a few lackluster ones. At his best he's a guy who can give you 40+ doubles and 25+ home runs if playing full time, but those are seasons where, for whatever reason, he's also been able to handle a breaking ball. I can't say for sure whether a successful offensive campaign and the ability to hit a slider are related, but no doubt it helps.
2010 wasn't one of Cantu's good seasons, and after he was dealt to the eventual AL Champion Rangers he wasn't a factor. Still, the potential is there for a good year, particularly if the Twins wouldn't have to rely on him on an everyday basis. While Glaus would primarily slot into a DH/backup first baseman role, Cantu could potentially back up third base as well. Neither of these guys will field their position particularly well, but versatility may play slightly in Cantu's favor.
After the jump, the tale of the tape.
Line 'em up.
| Cantu | 2010 | Glaus | Cantu | Career | Glaus | |
| 28 | Age | 33 | 29 | Age | 34 | |
| $6,000,000 | Salary | $1,750,000 | Salary | |||
| DH/1B/3B | Position | DH/1B | DH/1B/3B | Position | DH/1B | |
| 127 | Games | 128 | 790 | Games | 1537 | |
| 515 | PA | 483 | 3239 | PA | 6355 | |
| 29 | 2B | 18 | 199 | 2B | 293 | |
| 11 | HR | 16 | 101 | HR | 320 | |
| .305 | wOBA | .331 | .330 | wOBA | .364 | |
| .695 | OPS | .744 | .766 | OPS | .847 | |
| .234 | AVG vsL | .243 | .272 | AVG vsL | .273 | |
| .286 | OBP vsL | .371 | .323 | OBP vsL | .396 | |
| .362 | SLG vsL | .391 | .451 | SLG vsL | .542 | |
| .266 | AVG vsR | .243 | .275 | AVG vsR | .248 | |
| .311 | OBP vsR | .330 | .319 | OBP vsR | .344 | |
| .405 | SLG vsR | .405 | .444 | SLG vsR | .471 |
That's a lot to look at, but don't rush. You've got plenty of time.
Of course, looking at what a guy has done in the past is just part of the picture. Taking injuries and age into account play against Glaus, but if consistency and track record is your thing then Cantu doesn't look too pretty either. But these kinds of issues are to be expected because neither of these guys are the complete package. If they were, we wouldn't be comparing them to see who's the better bench option.
It's going to be easy to look at each of these guys and just pick one. Maybe you like Glaus as a pure role player, but you prefer Cantu as a guy who could start for a week or two straight while somebody is on the disabled list. Maybe Glaus has a more definable role, where Cantu is more of a wild card. Chances are, whichever guy you feel fits better for the Twins is probably the guy you'd prefer to have, because this isn't an open-and-shut comparison.
Going forward, Bill James sees a slightly better year coming from Glaus (.779 OPS, .345 wOBA, .187 ISO while continuing to both walk and strike out a lot) than from Cantu (.762 OPS, .329 wOBA, .168 ISO while walking and striking out less).
Both of these guys won't sign for more than $3 million guaranteed, and it's quite likely at this point that they'll be lucky to find an offer worth $2 million. All financial considerations being equal, who would you choose?
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You should have given us another option...Neither!
…that would be my choice. I don’t like either, even if it is for minimal dollars which I am certain it wouldn’t be.
Glaus, and it isn't close
Glaus could easily match Thome’s numbers from last year.
by AM. on Jan 13, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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both would be a great addition to our horrible bench hopefully we sign a few relievers too Jose Veras would be a nice addition as he throws in the mid 90s.
Glaus, if forced to choose...
… but I’m going to stick with my oft-stated preference for Marcus Thames above either of these choices, for the role this particular roster spot would be asked to fill.
Probably less expensive
Thames played for $900K for the Yankees last year. Not going to double his money.
Neither is ideal to me...
but if forced to choose, I’d take Cantu.
1) I think Glaus is about done. Look at his 3-month long HORRIFIC slump last year.
2) Cantu’s more versatile.
3) Glaus is supposedly a terrible clubhouse guy.
Have to wonder...
… how either of these guys would react to being asked to take a paycut and a role anticipating a 30-40% reduction in plate appearances. I know Thome was asked to do the same thing a year ago and handled it professionally. Not everyone would approach it with the same attitude. Some guys would say, “cut in pay, cut in my role… cut my effort.”
I think Glaus would be a professional about it.
I’m not sure about Cantu.
That’s completely subjective, though.
troyglaus says:
its pronounced house! you know? like, when you were watching full HOUSE but your wife wanted to watch dr. HOUSE and you wouldn’t change the channel or clean the HOUSE so she DFA’ed you to the dog HOUSE!
and you can put it on the boaaaaaard YES, HELL YES
My Thome replacements, in order of preference
Off the top of my head…
1. Thames
2. Andreuw Jones
3. Glaus
4. Cantu
5. Hughes
6. Vlad
"Andreuw"?
Who snuck that e in on me? Andruw Jones at #2
Hughes/Guerrero
I just don’t think Vlad would succeed in Target Field. His HR power is all coming from his upper body now and doesn’t pull the ball like he did when he still had legs. If it’s a choice between overpaying Vlad for what I would expect to be disappointing results and giving Hughes a shot, I’d rather see what Hughes can do (though if we give Hughes a spot, I might prefer it be Tolbert’s spot).
He'd hit a lot of singles in the gap
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I honestly think either of these options are better than trusting Thome to hold up another season.
The FO has suddenly turned over a long standing policy that they don’t overpay past sell-by dates. And while I respect loyalty, if we actually have a budget, there’s better ways to use the money.
Would be nice to have a little insurance for 3B. At this point if Valencia is injured or struggles, we have Tolbert.
Hmm, Cantu I guess
I picked him because he has a little more versatility and I think he’s a more consistent hitter. I feel Glaus has huge monthly slumps, while Cantu does too, but not as much.
I’m with cmath though, if we can’t find someone better than these guys, I’d rather just go with Hughes instead.
Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD
I picked Cantu
I like his versatility, and the fact that he could very well bounce back. But I would like to see Hughes stay healthy and get a shot depending on how spring training goes. Its all guesswork at this point. Wake me up in a month
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
I like Cantu but feel he's redundange to Hughes
Maybe that’s not completely true but I’d rather try to use the money to get a useful bullpen piece than sign what is essentially a mediocre bat, poor glove to backup the infield. I think Hughes has a relatively good shot at matching the production Cantu would put up, so he’d be just as useful in a backup role.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

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