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2011 Twins Prospect Q&A with Seth Stohs, Part II: The Position Players

Once again we're joined by the incomparable Seth Stohs, as he answers a bunch of questions on the Twins farm system that a number of TT's front page writers came up with earlier this winter. Thanks to Seth for his time, and hopefully it's given everyone a glimpse into what the future may hold for their favorite baseball team.

Ben Revere is a pretty polarizing prospect. Comps have been anywhere from Kenny Lofton to Juan Pierre or Brett Gardner. Assuming Revere continues to hit at around a .300 clip as he progresses (a big assumption, I know, but he falls off the table if he ends up hitting around .260), the key to his long term value is going to be defense. Do you consider him to be a legit Major League center field prospect? Or is he a weak-armed corner outfielder at best?
 
Well, I think that the Kenny Lofton comp is looking more and more silly every day. Revere will not hit for power. I know that there are some who seem to still believe he will. I just can't see it. If Revere hits .300, his slash line could be .300/.360/.360. If he hits .260, he could have a .260/.320/.320 slash line. His offensive value is so directly tied to his batting average which is very much tied to his tremendous, game-changing speed. What he showed with the Twins in September means nothing. He isn't ready, even offensively for every day play. I would actually like to see him spend another half-season in New Britain. I think that would be great for him, and it might give us a better idea of what to expect. I actually really like Brett Gardener, and if Revere can be Gardner offensively, that would be adequate, especially with the 50+ stolen bases. (I also don't think Revere has a real high SB%, does he?)

However, Gardner is elite defensively, and Revere, well, isn't. We know the arm isn't good. He's got great range, but like many, doesn't run great routes. In the vast CF in Target Field, I do think Revere can be a positive and get to a lot, but the arm isn't there. This sounds really negative, and part of this thought is that I read blog comments from people who think Denard Span is bad and Revere should take over in center (the few that write that, not a lot). To me, that's funny. As I pointed up above, a good year for Revere is a .720 OPS. In Span's first two big league seasons, he posted OPSs of over .800. Even last year, when he hit .265, he got on .330 and had a .350 slugging. Span's "poor" year in 2010 is what we would hope for from Revere early in his career. And Revere would like not post a +5.7 UZR.

To be fair, Revere has flown through the system to this point. I think he's at least a year to a year-and-a-half from really being a ready product, and after another full minor league season, we will know a lot more.
 
Aaron Hicks spent his second straight year in Beloit, showing a nearly 100 point jump in OPS, with very good patience (88 walks in 423 AB). Strikeouts (112, rate is up from 2009) and lack of HR power concern me just a little. Do you see Hick’s 27 doubles as indicative of him having 20+ HR potential? Also, as a switch hitter, what is Hicks' strong/weak side?

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In 2010, Hicks was significantly better as a right-handed hitter, his natural swing. Of course, he still posted an OPS that was 20% better than league average despite his 'struggles' as a left-handed batter.

Hicks was raw in many ways when the Twins drafted him. But even last year, he put up really solid numbers despite having a long way to go. I had the chance to watch him play in two games in May (very small sample), and he has a very short, quick, compact swing. Sometimes it might be a little too big, but he uses the whole field and you can just tell that over time, he will add some power.

I think a great comp for him is Carlos Beltran because I think Hicks can do it all. I think he'll hit for a decent average. He could hit in that 18-25 home run range. He will play very good defense and we all know about Hicks' arm. And, I don't think we can underestimate the value of Hicks' patience at the plate. That is a positive thing, impressive for someone so young. Again, having watched him play, he doesn't go to the plate looking for a walk, but it appears he legitimately knows the strike zone. I still believe that he will be a terrific player in time.

Angel Morales had an interesting year, playing well at both Beloit and then in the FSL.  His average was solid with lots of triples and stolen bases.  But it appeared that his power left him.  Are you aware whether there was a reason for this?  We're hoping he was working on making contact or cutting down his strikeouts.
 
Seeing Morales in person was really impressive. The guy just looks like a ball player. I'm probably higher on him than most, but I see a five tool type here (with batting average being the question mark). I seem to get a lot of scouting reports on Morales from people, more than most for sure, and there is no one who is at all worried about his power. He has as much power potential as anyone in the organization.

When he moved up to Ft. Myers, he was quickly moved into their leadoff spot. He takes a lot of pitches which makes him perfect for the role, he has always had a terrific IsoD, and it also explains the high strikeout numbers. He has a powerful swing, but although he has improved at hitting breaking pitches, he still has work to do.

People forget that although he was drafted a year earlier, Morales is younger than Aaron Hicks.  
 
The Twins have taken young outfielders from Puerto Rico high in three of the last four drafts (Morales, Ortiz and Rosario).   Who rates the best for you in the long term?
 
In my recent Top 50 Twins prospect list, I had Morales in the top ten, and then Rosario in the 15-19 range. I've also said that I think that Ortiz is my breakout hitter choice for 2011. He was tremendous down the stretch for E-Town after a slow start in his return after missing all of 2009. And yet, Rosario probably had the best GCL debut of the three. They're all very intriguing, and very high-ceiling types.
 
Brian Dozier had unbelievable stats last year in Elizabethton.  This year he hit well in Beloit and later better with Ft. Myers, becoming the Miracle's only all-star.  Can he be a successful big league shortstop?
 
First, Dozier wasn't an All-Star with the Miracle--Chris Herrmann was their lone representative, I believe.

Dozier did, in E-Town, what you would hope a four-year college guy from a College World Series caliber program would do. He hit OK at Beloit. In the one game I saw, I wasn't impressed. He's not very fast, but all reports are that he makes all the plays defensively and has enough arm. He hit in the mid-270s, got on base at a decent clip... not sure where the 5 HR in Ft. Myers came from. He's not a power guy.

The best thing about him is that he has walked more than he has struck out. It'll be interesting to see if he starts in New Britain or back in Ft. Myers. Can he be a solid starter? Maybe. Looks a lot more like Matt Tolbert to me.
 
Who is the best shortstop in the system?  Is it Dozier, Niko Goodrum, or someone else?
 
Here's holding out hope for Paul Kelly to finally return!! I mean, tough question because Goodrum and Sano are technically SS-like, but most believe that neither will remain there. I guess I think Trevor Plouffe is the best of the real SS prospects.

With health always being an issue, does Brandon Roberts have a shot to be the Twins #4 outfielder at any point in 2011?

 

Well, obviously Jason Repko is the guy to start the season as the 4th OF. I think if Span got hurt and missed extended time, we'd see Revere. I think if Repko got hurt, then there is a chance Roberts could [be the fourth outfielder]. He had a decent 2010 when healthy, even in AAA. He's not great defensively, not a lot of range despite great speed, and a poor arm.

 

Tosoni could probably play CF for a short period. I think several things would need to happen for Roberts to get a shot, mainly involving CF because Jeff Bailey would be the first, I think, if a corner outfielder was needed.

 

Speaking of outfielders, there are quite a few in the Minnesota system with some promise.  Hicks, Revere, Morales, and of course Rene Tosoni and Joe Benson are a couple more.  Do any of them strike you as long-term, full-time Major League prospects?

 

Not sure how to answer that, but at this stage in their careers, I think they can all be MLB prospects. Hicks, Morales and Benson have very high ceilings. Revere is what he is, but that can be a solid MLB player. Tosoni can be very solid as well, especially in a platoon role.

 

Jorge Polanco didn't make John Sickels' early prospect list for the 2011 Twins. What are your thoughts on him?

 

He didn't make my Top 50 prospects. Allegedly he's a great glove, and that's awesome. Hopefully that's all true.

It'll be hard to judge until he gets up to Ft. Myers where the fields are all terrific. He didn't hit at all in DSL or GCL, which means nothing, of course. Really, all we know about him is he's supposed to be good defensively and the Twins gave him $750,000 to sign. They've given a lot of guys that amount that we didn't know about that we wouldn't rank, so I just can't get excited about him. I mean, James Beresford got that same signing bonus, and we didn't rank him in the Top 50 until he got to Beloit and did well.

 
What's your prediction for Miguel Angel Sano's future?  Will he be an A-grade prospect at any point?
 
I think that we could make the case for Sano as the Twins top prospect. He's so far from the big leagues, but he's got such amazing potential. From video, we see just how quick his hands are. He's got incredible power, and he's just starting. And, he hit for power at both the DSL and GCL levels.

I think the only thing keeping him from A-grade prospect status is being that young and in the GCL... I mean, he does still need to be promoted six more times to get to the Twins. 

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Again, great read!

This actually has me somewhat down on Revere. I guess I am just looking forward to hearing reports out of spring training. Is winter over yet??

by twinscrazy_german on Jan 24, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know if I'm "down" on Revere,

as much as I think he has something to prove at every level. Guys with his tools can succeed, but they’re a special breed of player, and having the tools to be that “special breed” doesn’t necessarily translate into being successful.

Did that make sense?

Basically, I just think that Revere has to prove, at every level, that he can be a productive player in spite of not taking a lot of walks and having virtually no power. He’s done pretty well so far, so now we just need to see it at AAA.

by Jesse on Jan 24, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Revere scares me

the offense could be nice to have if the avg stays up and he can utilize his great speed but his defense is worrisome he has a terrible arm and and not so great routes. Also it seems with the other of prospects in the wings it comes down to him and span otherwise you are occupying a corner outfield spot with a no power 1, 8, or 9 hitter.

by holymackerel on Jan 24, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well maybe not down

But I guess I was just imagining a higher ceiling. That is not to say he couldn’t prove everyone wrong once again

by twinscrazy_german on Jan 25, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

I definitely agree that his ceiling has come down since he was drafted.

by Jesse on Jan 25, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I would say that Revere

would not have to hit as high as Span to be as good. He has the ability to steal more bases then Span. Also, If he were to bat second he would bunt more and avg. would not be as important as moving the runner. I’d rather see Revere in LF then Delmond as far as Defence goes.

by b1 on Jan 24, 2011 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree.

As Seth notes, such a vast proportion of Revere’s value is tied up in his batting average. You’re not going to steal bases if you’re not on the bases. Bunting and moving the runner over is great, but only late in the game when you’re playing for one run. In a vast majority of circumstances you need players who can not only hit for average, but can consistently get on base at a good clip—especially if you’re hitting second, right in front of Mauer and Morneau.

There’s no doubt that Revere would cover a lot more ground than Young in left, and his speed would also help him make up for those poor routes Seth mentions. But until Revere can prove he can be a solid contributor in AAA, much less in the Majors, you have to believe that in spite of his ugly defense Young still gives the Twins more overall value.

by Jesse on Jan 24, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I doubt Revere will be kicking Delmon off the team any time soon.

Delmon had 68 extra base hits last year and he’s still got upside from there. Revere’s probably going to check in with 20-30 extra base hits, and almost none of them will be homers. That’s a lot of production to make up for with stolen bases and outfield defense, especially when you’re already making up for a weak arm.

You know, this gets me thinking that while we’ll probably see Delmon go somewhere else when he hits free agency, it might be a really painful thing to watch. He’s going to be 27 and while I think the lack of walks and range will keep him from ever being a star, he might be coming into his own as a really dangerous power hitter. Sadly, I could easily see him really making a name for himself after he leaves the Twins.

by Luke in MN on Jan 24, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Revere is Jarvis Brown without power

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 24, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly fair

But Brown had a good minor league career for a 5-7, 160 pound kid. In 1990 as a 23 year old in Orlando, he hit .260/.366/.408 with 43 XBH. Tony O was comparing him to Kirby. Sound familiar?

Revere hit .305/.371/.363 with 15 XBH as a 22 year old in New Britain last year. He makes better contact than Brown did, but he doesn’t hit the ball as hard as Brown did. In all other ways, they’re very similar players.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 25, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow!!!

I woudln’t have ever guessed that of Brown. Very sobering on the Revere angle. So, if the playing thing doesn’t work out for Revere, he can always become a college baseball coach in Wisconsin?

by SethSpeaks on Jan 26, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think his future lies in coaching

But he’ll be a fourth outfielder who bounces around the league for a half dozen years first, like Brown did. He’ll probably end up in the NL, where they need more bench bats to pinch hit and play defense late in games.

This is why he’s been tops on my list of guys the Twins should trade. His value is not likely to get any higher than it is now.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 26, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

His value could get higher

If he gets a callup and hits .330 for a month with some steals and a highlight reel catch someone will want him.

by DJL44 on Jan 26, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually agree Revere is our future LFer ladies and gentelman i can see it now....

2012 opening day

Ben Revere in Left, Denard Span in Center, and Delmon Young in Right

HOPEFULLY I PRAY Jason Kubel as the DH (4th OF)

and Rene Tosoni as the 5th OF (i dislike Repko a lot and the only thing keeping him here in 2011 is his D)

Benson could see some PT in 2012 as well, Parmelee is probaly only a platoon AAAA type of guy who can play 1B and DH with some COF…… Hicks is probably a 2013 or 2014 breakout I’m excited

very excited

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

Tosoni bats left

He’s redundant with Kubel. I could see Cuddyer as the DH/4th OF taking a $3-5M contract to stay with the Twins. That makes room for Tosoni.

by DJL44 on Jan 24, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

why do people

keep on trying to put Delmon in RF. He is never moving back to RF. If he moves anywhere from LF, it will be to DH – but he is not moving anymore in the outfield.

...formerly known as 33MorneauMVP

by BCTwins on Jan 24, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not utilze Revere's speed

in the slightly more spacious left field and Delmons horrid range is much more fitting in Right Field. I don’t get what you’re saying its like you think moving from Left to right field is a challenge ? It may take a little getting used to I suppose but Its not like where telling Delmon to go jump on ship and play Center Field in the middle of the ocean.

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

*utilize

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

why

why do you capitalize Random words?

Seriously, I just don’t understand it.

by ravenfly on Jan 25, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Delmon is not moving

this was finalized pretty much when the whole trade went down. Delmon is the starting LF. If Delmon moves anywhere, it will be to DH.

I am not saying that I like this necessarily, but this is the way it is.

...formerly known as 33MorneauMVP

by BCTwins on Jan 25, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Kubel is a FA after this year.

I don’t think it’s terribly likely he’ll be back.

by timprov on Jan 24, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd think its a MUCH better shot than Cuddyer

who is A) more expensive B) OLDER and Grey haired C) an extrememly popular and highly persued FA around the League a year from now

Kubel isn’t exactly any of those things, is younger, has IMO better in game Power and had for the most part better Minor League offensive #’s.

I’d keep Kubel over Cuddyer easy for me

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the $$

Cuddyer keeps saying he’ll take a hometown discount to stay with the Twins. If he’s willing to sign for 1 year $3M it might be a good deal.

by DJL44 on Jan 24, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd let both of them go, probably.

Plenty of outfielders around, and could use that money elsewhere, especially Liriano. Twins might give the nod to Cuddyer because of team leadership, whereas it’s hard to see them paying big to keep Kubel around.

I think it’s very possible Kubel will draw more attention in free agency than Cuddyer. Cuddyer’s a nice average all-around guy but he really isn’t exceptional at anything, whereas Kubel does kick the living hell out of right handed pitching. Especially if some of the plentiful old righty DH types are hanging around another year, it would be tempting for somebody to pair Kubel with one.

I’d be happy just planning on a Span, Benson, Revere/Tosoni outfield for 2012, Delmon at DH. While it’s possible one or more of those won’t work out they at least would fail cheaply, and corner OFs and DHs are usually reasonably easy to get midseason. That money could work nicely in the rotation, or middle infield if the Casilla/Nishioka experiment doesn’t pan out.

I do think handing anybody a long-term contract when we have this massive outfielder pipeline has to be a bad idea.

by timprov on Jan 25, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Better minor league numbers?

I think at some point in a player’s career, it’s time to forget about his minor league numbers when you discuss his value and I believe it’s well past that point in both Kubel’s and Cuddyer’s careers. They are who they are.

by Jim Crikket on Jan 25, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Benson might just take Revere's place in the pecking order.

For what it’s worth—and these things do have to be taken with a pretty big grain of salt when it comes to prospects—the ZIPS system likes Benson to be not all that far from a league-average hitter in MLB in 2011, which with his defense would make him already useful to the Twins.

by Luke in MN on Jan 24, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

In my book, he already has

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 24, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

mine too...

 but probably not the Twins.

by SethSpeaks on Jan 24, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'd agree definately not the Twins......

at least not yet.

You know the Twins arn’t as high on a guy who could strike out 120+ times a year as compared to a small, quick Contact Type hitter in Revere. (I’m not saying Benson would annually strike out 100-150 times a year its just if he had to be in the show in 2011 all year i think he sure would, I’m hoping he improves is plate discipline a smidge while learning the ins and outs of the breaking ball)

Revere is the type of player that got this whole thing going in the early 2000s (smart ball, small ball -whatever you want to call it)

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

Revere’s game is ready now. Benson? is any one sure what to expect? Can he hit for avg. will he hit 20hr’s again? You know what your going to get with Revere. I think it will take Benson longer to prove his consistency. Anyone what to post numbers for Benson this year? .260,14hr’s,15sb,98k’s

by b1 on Jan 25, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Seth, Dozier was a Florida State League All-Star...

…He was the lone Miracle Post Season All-Star. Chris Herrmann was a mid-season all-star.

by roger13 on Jan 24, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent.

Thanks for the clarification, Roger.

by Jesse on Jan 24, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

Good clarification… I didn’t look at postseason All Star lists. Was thinking actual all-star game participants.

by SethSpeaks on Jan 24, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is just plain raking in the minors

I look at the minor league numbers of many of our current guys and don’t see anyone in the minors that is just destroying minor league pitching the way Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, Kubel, and Delmon Young all did.

Now Young we can argue about but he was incredibly young for the minor league levels he was at.

I just don’t see anyone absolutely destroying the way those aforementioned guys did during their time in the minors. That’s not necessarily a complete knock against the guys we do have as many of them appear to be better defenders/base stealers than Delmon, Kubel, or Cuddyer ever were. It’s just not fair to compare them to Mauer or Morneau.

The point being?? I’m not sure probably just that I’d love it if we had even one prospect that was just absolutely dominant with the bat. Maybe it could be Joe Benson this year or even Aaron Hicks. Just something that I’ve been mulling in my head awhile.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Jan 24, 2011 9:14 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agree

All four of those Twins guys (Mauer, Morneau and especially Cuddyer and Kubel) destroyed the minor leagues. Valencia put up good minor league numbers, but not like those guys.

I think a few guys could break out in 2011… especially thanks to all the minor league veterans in the higher levels keeping prospects where they should be.

by SethSpeaks on Jan 24, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right. You inspired me to look the guys up.

Total minor-league stats (from B-Ref):

Morneau: .310 .378 .527 .906
Kubel: .320 .385 .499 .884
Delmon: .318 .363 .518 .881
Cuddyer: .290 .380 .485 .865
Mauer: .332 .407 .426 .833
Valencia: .298 .353 .469 .822
Hicks: .279 .388 .427 .816
A. Morales: .276 .360 .456 .815
Revere: .328 .389 .412 .801
Parmelee: .260 .352 .436 .788
Benson: .260 .352 .431 .784
Span: .287 .357 .358 .716

Frankly, I think a lot of it is that we just don’t have nearly the hitting talent in the minors to replace the five guys at the top of this list. Hicks isn’t all that far behind Mauer’s numbers and like Mauer the power might still be developing as he gets to the majors, although Hicks is also not as young for his levels as Mauer was and will probably be 2 or 3 years older than Mauer was when he hits MLB. The other thing is that Cuddyer, Kubel, and Delmon (so far) have been disappointing to certain degree at the MLB level when compared to their minor-league stats. They’ve all been high 700 OPS guys overall at MLB instead of the high-800s guys there were as prospects. Maybe some of our current guys will do the opposite and outperform expectations, Span-style.

by Luke in MN on Jan 24, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it is interesting to see Aaron Hicks' name though

so much higher in the pecking order there than Denard Span’s !!

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really...

Hicks is a great on-base guy with solid power numbers.

Luke, these must be minor league career numbers? Because those top guys would look even better if you took some of their top years.

Hicks is so far ahead of the game. Hunter struggled. Hicks has been pretty good.

by SethSpeaks on Jan 24, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, total minor league stats.

Obviously sort of a rough tool since people are tackling different levels for different amounts of time and at different ages.

Torii: .270 .334 .417 .751

by Luke in MN on Jan 24, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Total minor stats:

Seems like a good equivalent to what you could hope a prospect posts in their best MLB season.

by AM. on Jan 25, 2011 7:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Numbers progression

A few years ago, I had an exchange with Clay Davenport from Baseball Prospectus about the learning curve/numbers progression up the minors. I’d need to dig out the numbers, but I seem to recall that he said that each level was 5% harder than the previous level, except for the jump from AAA to MLB, which is a 15% difference. So a prospect should do 5 or 15% worse as he moves up a level. However, Davenport expected the learning curve to be—I think—4% per year until they slow down to 0% learning as they reach their full potential, presumably at 26-30.

From these numbers, you can see what an Arcia line might mean 5 or 6 years from now.

by AM. on Jan 25, 2011 7:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OK, beating the bejeezus out of a league in a single season:

OPS over 950, minimum PA 200, any level (I think this covers everyone in the system, but let me know if I’m missing someone):

Morneau, age 19, Rk (GCL), 226 PA, .402 .478 .665 1.143
Arcia, 19, Rk (APPY), 283 PA, .375 .424 .672 1.096
Morneau, 29, MLB, 348 PA, .345 .437 .618 1.055
A. Morales, 18, Rk (APPY), 218 PA, .301 .413 .623 1.036
Mauer, 26, MLB, 606 PA, .365 .444 .587 1.031
Morneau, 20, A (Quad Cities), 269 PA, .356 .420 .597 1.018
Morneau, 23, AAA, 326 PA, .306 .377 .615 .992
Cuddyer, 23, AAA, 372 PA, .309 .379 .594 .973
Delmon, 19, AA, 370 PA, .336 .386 .582 .968
Kubel, 22, AAA, 390 PA, .343 .398 .560 .958
Cuddyer, 22, AA, 593 PA, .301 .395 .560 .955

Pretty rare, at any level. FYI, Thome did it once as a minor-league…and 12 times in MLB (career OPS .963).

by Luke in MN on Jan 25, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

How much time did Delmon spend in the minors?

As far as I can tell fangraphs only shows 2006 with Tampa. He must have been in AAA with the Twins though. Did he just fly through the minors?

by Codypc21 on Jan 24, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

nah he flew through the Minors

was never in AAA with Twins he was MLB ready at the time of the Garza- Young trade (already played in MLB for a year)

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

age 18-20,

About 1500 PAs more or less evenly divided between A, AA, and AAA.

For some reason fangraphs doesn’t show pre-MLB-debut minor-league numbers for players who have been in the majors. Go here for minor league stats.

by Luke in MN on Jan 24, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

There is one player raking...Oswaldo Arcia

…granted, he only has two years, but no one hit like he did last year. And yes, we all need to see him do it next year at Beloit/Ft. Myers.

by roger13 on Jan 24, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Parmelee isn't raking

He isn’t playing much defense either which is why I’d argue he shouldn’t be in the top 20.

by DJL44 on Jan 25, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The hope is he reaches his upside

Which is Adam Dunn.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 25, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubtful

Adam Dunn who destroyed minor league pitching and rocketed through the minors? Adam Dunn who made the majors at age 21 and got ROY votes? Parmelee is not going to be Adam Dunn. If Parmelee can be as good as Adam LaRoche I’ll be surprised.

by DJL44 on Jan 25, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

skills

His Skills coming into the 2010 season were power and walks… in 2010, he worked on becoming a better all-around hitter, cut down strikeouts, hit for more average, etc. I think if he stays in New Britain in 2011 all year, he’ll combine it all, hit for average and power while walking more again. That’s a guess, but I think it could happen. No, I don’t think Adam Dunn is his potential any more, but I think he can be 1.) better D at 1B and 2.) a very solid all-around hitter.

by SethSpeaks on Jan 25, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Great questions & Great Read

awesome job guys!

I’m getting the Spring fever waaaaay to early

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

"Matt Millen ran Barry Sanders out of town he Drove the Lions into the ground
and now he acts as if he is a know it all NFL analyst" -favre

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 24, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

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