Twins Sign Doumit; 1 year, $3M
by RandBall's Stu on Nov 18, 2011 3:48 PM EST
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For the second Friday in a row, the Twins have made a personnel move that's low on flash but fills a definite need. Last week, it was acquiring Jamey Carroll to shore up shortstop; today, it's the acquisition of free agent catcher Ryan Doumit to a one-year, $3 million deal (pending physical), as first reported by ESPN's Jerry Crasnick and confirmed by multiple sources.
Doumit has the potential to fill multiple needs. As noted by Phil Mackey, Doumit also played first base and right field for the Pirates last season. With Michael Cuddyer's departure a real possibility and Justin Morneau's health always in doubt, this gives the Twins a veteran to plug in to those slots instead of the nearest warm body from Rochester.
Of course, Doumit has his own injury history, the most recent being a two-month stint on the DL last year for a broken ankle.
Your thoughts, as always, are welcome.
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Hey, this is GREAT!
Versatile, can fill multiple needs, wouldn’t need to be the only backup catcher…
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane
Yeah I like this.
I agree, not flashy, but needed.
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let's make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." -Harmon Killebrew
I love it
Terry Ryan has brought in 2 solid clubhouse vet guys to fill gaping holes. This guy fits the team perfect switch hitter with some pop that can play multiple positions along with presumably holding his own in the dh spot. Not a good defender but I would much rather see someone that can hit squatting behind the plate when Mauer needs a day off or is playing 1st/Dh.
first-worst-first?
This is fantastic.
A lot, and I mean a LOT, of teams were interested in Doumit. We know he turned down the Dodgers. I can assume he picked the Twins because in the situation with Mauer and Morneau he’ll probably start twice a week. At least.
He’s a good fit. Now let’s hope he stays healthy.
As for the broken ankle, the picture says it all
Some dumbass third base coach sent the guy home with no chance to score and the collision caused the broken ankle.You can hardly fault the guy for this.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Good point
Not naming any names
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Gotta say,
I approve of the right half of this picture :) It also amused me very much :)
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by twinsgirl197 on Nov 18, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah already put Denard SPan's fantastic career on hold fack
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
^ the bottom video ^
MLB Move Type "B" compensation to the post second round, pre third round area.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I thought they fixed this when they moved Ullger to the dugout
Ullger caused a lot more injuries in his time—most notably Morneau, Kubel and Thome. But apparently the habit of sending runners to their eminent peril was passed onto Liddle.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Is Ryan replacing Cuddyer or Butera?
I think Cuddyer is gone. Now they have a RF/1B who can play C in a pinch instead of a RF/1B who can play 2B in a pinch. They can still sign a different backup catcher and use Doumit mostly in the outfield and 1B. Doumit would have had the highest OPS+ on the Twins last year.
2011 Splits
Cuddyer LHP .311/.403/.589 .993
Cuddyer RHP .272/.321/.407 .728
Doumit LHP .315/.393/.519 .912
Doumit RHP .299/.339/.463 .802
by DJL44 on Nov 18, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
that's kind of how I view it...
he’s kind of a mixture. basically a 3rd catcher on the roster, but a guy that can play a little DH/1b/RF. a more versatile, RH’ed Thome. Even if we don’t sign Kubel, Parmelee could be the other side of that equation at 1b/DH. And Plouffe offers versatility as well in a reserve role. Find a true backup C and a new OF (Kubel/Cuddy/Willingham/DeJesus/Sizemore) and the offense should be fairly well set. I still think Benson is up sooner rather than later and I’m fine with it.
BTW, this is random, but has anyone else heard the Terry Ryan interview with Reusse last week? I thought it was interesting when Reusse brought up Span and Revere saying something like “they’re kind of similar players” and asking if the plan was to play them in the OF together. Ryan’s response was very telling to me. LONG pause, then “it’s doable” in a strained tone of voice. But then expanding and saying that Reusse was “selling Span really short” and that an OF like that would really be lacking in power, especially “over 162 games”. That said to me that there’s no way Ryan sees Revere as close to Span (and he shouldn’t, at least at this point) and does not plan to play them every day in the OF together. I found that encouraging. He went on to say that he didn’t want to be trading guys at their low point off of injuries, so it made me wonder if perhaps they are contemplating trading Revere for help in another area, like a deal with the Nats. Thoughts?
Don't trade Revere
Trade Danny Valencia instead. the reason is that teams might want a bit more power than Ben Revere possesses. Second on that list would be Trevor Plouffe. I rather try son of Gardy (Toby Gardenhire) at Third.
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Son of Gardy is gone...
Maybe there’s some sort of deal where Rochester might sign him independent of us if no on else wants him, but the Twins outrighted him.
I think he will be back.
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I thought sure that was one of your classic absurdities
When you give a player who is not on your 40 man roster his outright release, you don’t bring him back.
Besides, the idea that he could hold down third base in the majors when he couldn’t hold down a single position in the minors is as absurd as Manny at short or Swisher at second. The fact that no other team has signed him is an indication that his days as a player are all but over. Perhaps he’ll catch on as a coach somewhere.
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St. Paul Saints
He can live at home with Mrs. Gardy
Are you serious?
You sir, are a mouthful.
by Att. Bob Loblaw on Nov 19, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Cuddy's gone
But doumit won’t pla outfield much.
Perfect...
the one move that made too much sense that I was convinced they wouldn’t make. Best realistic signing that Ryan could have made.
This seems really cheap
I wouldn’t be surprised to see some incentives in the contract when all the details come out.
Details on incentives not disclosed
but most of the twitter reports included that there would be performance incentives.
there are incentives...
it’s already been reported.
Each "Pie in the face" to a teammate when Robby is interviewing them after a home win, = $40,000
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He wears #41?
That jersey is sacred to Twins fans. This is an outrage.
I don’t think “injury prone” when I read about a broken ankle. Now, if we signed a catcher with persistent knee problems, that would be worrisome.
Steve Goodman lives.
So now I'm curious, who changes their number, him or Drew?
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 18, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think they hold a contest to the death to decide who wears #41.
Seriously, there will be a deal or Doumit will be assigned a number.
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haha I figured, I was just looking for some speculation.
I suppose in my experience the older players pick first, but I don’t know with this. I know player get new numbers a lot when they change teams though
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
I would like them to fight MMA style where the loser leaves the team. That would be great programming to replace cancelled NBA games.
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No, senseless violence is dumb.
Now fighting during basketball and hockey… Now that’s fun! lol
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 18, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Another example of senseless violence
Now fighting during basketball and hockey… Now that’s fun! lol
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Woosh!
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 19, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Well that's part of the sport,
Baseball isn’t the kind of sport where ou make tons of physical contact with people. Sure you slide into people and play aggressive, but basketball and hoskey you are constantly touching other people and its part of the sport to make enough physical contact to cause a foul/penalty which is common. Baseball isn’t a sport that you take your fists to other people or whatever. Some sports have reasonable violence in them, I don’t think baseball is really one of them.
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 19, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
As long as it is reasonable
Such as fouls in basketball, the cross check in hockey, and the hard hit that causes a fumble in football. What I don’t like are the all out brawls in any sport including baseball.
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Yes, I agree with that.
That’s what I meant. i meant the agressiveness thats a part of those sports, not extra fist fights etc
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 19, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think injury-prone...
When a position player hasn’t played in more than 106 games for the last 7 seasons.
by spanspanspan on Nov 18, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Or Drew Butera could consult Chris Kluwe for help in this manner, especially since he likes Music....
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
^ the bottom video ^
MLB Move Type "B" compensation to the post second round, pre third round area.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 19, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Great signing
They just addressed 2 of the most pressing needs and only spent 6 million dollars of nexts year payroll. They can either wait out the Pitching market (SP and RP) or go after some of the big fish. Frankly i think they should wait out that market and hope to get someone on the cheap or maybe explore trades, because aside from Buehrle, Jackson and WIlson not too many FA pitchers interest me.
I love this!
Never thought we’d get him….
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Nov 18, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions
Maybe I'll go to spring training again afterall
I’m dangerously close to being hopeful again for 2012. I know these new guys aren’t likely to be all-stars but it still feels like maybe there’s a chance the Twins won’t lose 98+ games again.
You at spring training
Maybe jinxed the team.
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I was told this week that my friend might see if he can take me to Spring Training for my sweet 16
I’m freaking excited. 2013 team better be good too :) Maybe we can celebrate some new jewelry in 2013 at Spring Training :D (no jinx, obviously Danny is going to get a ne w phiten! :P)
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 18, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'll cross my fingers for you.
It’s fun. Tons of baby Twins running around and Fort Myers area is nice.
Yeah, some of my friends went last spring and said it was a blast
Plus I can’t think of anything else I’d want to do for my 16th birthday more than go to spring training
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 19, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
And
Watching Danny hit a home run would be icing on the cake for you.
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and if Brian pitched that day i might die
"I don't really give a f*** and my excuse is that I'm young, and I'm only getting older somebody shoulda told ya" ~Drake (I'm On One)
by twinsgirl197 on Nov 19, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
DJSkillz
Good point about Revere and Span. I wonder if Ryan will be pushing for Revere to be a platoon player in LF with Plouffe. That would make the most sense, by FAR.
Somebody keep Sweet Drew away from anything flammable.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 18, 2011 6:11 PM EST reply actions
just tell him to pretend flames are like offense...
and he won’t touch them.
Lookout Landing is not so bullish on Doumit as a catcher.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 18, 2011 6:41 PM EST reply actions
yeah
hopefully he’ll only need to handle 30 games or so behind the plate.
Either way, over a very similar number of at bats, Doumit was +1.2 WAR, Butera was -1.2 WAR. Doumit got 53 starts behind the plate, Butera started 75.
Hopefully
The 30 or so games behind the plate will be in spring training. According to Lookout Landing’s stats, they roast him for his defense and even include a link of him hitting a pitcher on the head. (happened in September 2008)
In that vein, here is a link of Delmon Young basically giving the business to an umpire in a minor league game.
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Joe C says
The deal includes up to $250,000 in incentives, based on plate appearances.
"I learned something yesterday. No use in having rules if there's no punishment for breaking them. You'll be fine if you bite down on the trigger. Enjoy your breakfast."
It's like someone in the FO reads TT.
I like the move, as long as expectations are tempered.
If Manny Ramirez actually becomes the Twins shortstop, I'm done.
by ColossusOfRhode on Nov 18, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but if AIRWOLF is signed as utility helicopter
Great franchise, or greatest franchise?
by ravenfly on Nov 18, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Shocked
That he could not get multiple years from someone. Also i am still struggling with a GM who makes moves that make sense.
by clutterheart on Nov 18, 2011 7:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He just wants to lure you in
Then, when you trust him to be sane, he will trade Mauer.
by twinscrazy_german on Nov 18, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Depending on how this season goes for Mauer
I might actually support that move
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
by Camraman926 on Nov 18, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody's trading Joe Mauer
If anything, we are moving him to right field permanently, out of the bright lights of home plate.
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Good signing.
I think this gives the Twins some options. He has always hit well but is a below average defensive catcher.
This is legit.
That is all.
FREE AIRWOLF!
ROHLFING!!!!!
by d-mac on Nov 18, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So who should we sign next Friday?
I vote Michael Cuddyer.
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Pujols
We need a RH short stop, afterall.
by spanspanspan on Nov 18, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Whoa, Myjah's comment on that post...
… and I’m not referring to the Japanese translations.
by ColossusOfRhode on Nov 19, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I remember seeing that when the story first broke
At least there was a cup involved instead of it being the full Favre.
Thankfully Parmelee's glove has improved
He looks like a real first baseman based on what I saw in September
Can we ban that
along with obstructed landscape/sunset photos and that one discussion topic?
(Nick The Shredder Punto is fine though).
by spanspanspan on Nov 19, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Visual Puns FTW
Gives a whole new meaning to wearing a protective cup. Or to getting called up for a cup of coffee in the bigs.
by KLP on Nov 19, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
spanspanspan told me I can't talk about cups anymore
But “cup of coffee in the bigs” is never going to be the same phrase for me again.
by ColossusOfRhode on Nov 19, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite comments.
I love Thome, but I wouldn’t guarantee he will be as good as he was last year. Call it the "Brett Favre Rule."
Myjah
Personally, Thome was ok in 2011 for us. Granted he didn’t have as many home runs, but one has to love the 490 foot bomb that basically allowed flies to enter Delmon Young’s mouth.
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Flies enter Delmon's mouth every day
He’s one of the greatest mouth breathers of all time.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Yeah, I found this one in my own collection of photos from this season
And that was just his reaction to a foul ball.
by ColossusOfRhode on Nov 21, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad Willie Bloomquist got signed by the D-Backs
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 19, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Poor man's Mike Napoli?
I love this signing, he’s not gonna jump like Napoli but if he can hover around a .800 OPS and back up 1B, C, and play some corner outfield I’ll take it, especially at that price.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Butera isn't going anywhere
Doumit will likely mostly play outfield and be Nick Blackburn’s personal catcher.
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Much like Morneau, the only question I have is can Doumit stay on the field?
I know Span and Mauer will be ready to go, not sure how succesful they’ll be ….but Morny and Doumit are the type that seems like they could miss an entire season again rather easily….
Hope i’m wrong
I Like the move :)
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
^ the bottom video ^
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 19, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions
I love the move...
DH, backup; 1B, C, and corner outfield.
Plus, its cheap.
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