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Still in on Cuddy?

I've seen it multiple times today on Twitter that the Twins are saying they're not out on Michael Cuddyer yet. At first thought, I found myself envisioning an outfield of Willingham, Span, Cuddyer, with Revere playing all over the place, and it sounded like a good mix of power, speed, and defense. Besides, Cuddyer would provide the perfect Morneau insurance. But then it struck me that Cuddy is looking for at least $10 million dollars and I started thinking about all of the other things we could do with $10 million besides signing the guy we just signed a replacement for.

If the Twins really do have another $10 million to at least play around with, why in the WORLD wouldn't they make some sort of move for a top-of-the-rotation-starter?????! WE NEED PITCHING!!!!! Edwin Jackson, anyone? He might not be worth the $10-11 million he's gonna get, but what other options do we have on the free agent market. Rich Harden? I don't think so. I am in no way saying we need to sign Jackson, but this is a team that's starters finished second to last in ERA and has made absolutely no improvements to the staff. I think it's safe to say Liriano can and will pitch better, but will he be healthy, and where is this guy's head? Can Baker stay healthy? We haven't seen it yet. He was really good when healthy last year. Will Blackburn's sinker sink? Even if it does, he's a #4, maybe a #3 at best. Pavano isn't getting any younger and he didn't do much besides eat innings last year. His ERA was 4.30 with a 1.36 WHIP. Those are right at his his career number of 4.30/1.34. It's safe to say he'll be pretty average next year also, while still eating up innings, which is valuable in it's own sense. I fully expect Duensing to get moved back to the 'pen and focus on getting lefties out. That leaves Manship and Hendricks for the last two spots. That means one thing: We're in big, big trouble.

Now I fully expect the Twins to sign another 4/5 type starter (Joe Saunders, Jeff Francis, or Jon Garland), or a high-risk/ high-reward type (Rich Harden), but unless they pull off some sort of trade, we still have no 1/2 starters in the rotation. Liriano could be that guy and Baker could be pretty close to that guy, but there are a lot of if's for those two. Edwin Jackson would be more of a 2/3 type in my opinion but he throws hard and strikes out a lot of guys, while also walking a lot of guys. They always say, power pitching wins in October, and I'm a firm believer of that.

I guess my full point of this write-up was to say that if the Twins, in fact, do have another $10 million dollars floating around to play with, they sure as hell better be using that on a starter instead of an outfielder we don't really need anymore. It's hard to say I'd hate bringing back Cuddyer, but I would I firmly disagree with that decision when the money could be used elsewhere, primarily in the rotation. Not necessarily Edwin Jackson, but someone...ANYONE!!!!

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That is true

I seen those rumors as well. Here’s Rhett Bollinger’s latest Tweet:

@RhettBollinger: RT @harding_at_mlb: Rox keep talking to Cuddyer; Twins back in mix http://t.co/N5KTWpdt

Personally, you would have to wonder if the Twins plan to increase payroll up to $125 million or they are trying to finalize a trade we don’t know about right now.

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by Jessy S on Dec 15, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently the Twins viewed Willingham as insurance

But the fact that they are still in on Cuddy is curious.

Personally, rather than use that 10m on Cuddy or Jackson, I’d use it on a couple of solid consistent starters and a solid reliever.

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by SooFoo Fan on Dec 15, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

Or please define the word “solid”.

by twinssniwt on Dec 16, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is a "We're not going to break up with you...

Your going to have to break up with us" situation. The Twin’s won’t increase their offer, if Cuddyer moves on they can say they we’re willing to make an exception in payroll for him. This also does Cuddy a favor, as long as the Twins “very public” offer is out there, he can use it to keep other teams offers above what the Twins offered.

"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"

by maxisagod on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

I also think they needed to convince him that they're serious about winning

At the start of last year, we had Young, Kubel, Cuddy and Thome. I don’t think Cuddy liked coming back to a team where none of the other three have been replaced. Willingham at least replaces is an upgrade over Young. That might make Cuddy more interested in coming back. Just a thought.

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by cmathewson on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points all around...

and while I prefer Kubel to Cuddy being brought back, especially if we could offer him less years (OF’s coming in spades soon) I agree with the overall point in this post. Edwin Jackson and 2 top 80 picks help this franchise more than Michael Cuddyer.

by DJSkillz on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

Depends on your sources

The problem is we can’t see the future. Do we keep our current offer or do you increase to $12 million over three years knowing that he might regress in 2012, or do we go after Jason Kubel instead.

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by Jessy S on Dec 16, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Ide be ok with E Jax

i think I would rather see them go after Kuroda though. Also that Iwakamura guy is still out there probably for cheaper then 10 million. They need to spend the money on a pitcher though just accept life without Cuddy lol.

first-worst-first?

by holymackerel on Dec 16, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

Iwakuma...

supposedly had some major arm troubles and a sharp decline in velocity. he’s being thought of as a 5th starter now according to most reports.

Kuroda I still think ends up on the west coast but for something like a 1 year/$14-15M deal.

I think Jackson’s the guy for us, if his price comes down to the 3 years/$30M range.

by DJSkillz on Dec 16, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Kubel and Pitching

nothing more needs to be said

REPORTER: What do you think is happening to the team?
MICHAEL RAY RICHARDSON: The ship be sinking.
REPORTER: How far can it sink?
MICHAEL RAY RICHARDSON: Sky's the limit.

by uofmike on Dec 16, 2011 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

personally

I like the idea of taking a low risk/high reward flyer on a guy like Ben Sheets, along with a Paul Maholm type, a reliever, and take a run at Kubes

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by carlpavanosmoustache on Dec 16, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

I was glad to hear assistant GM Rob Antony make it pretty clear that pitching comes before resigning Kubel. I like Kubel but if we are going to sign a left handed bat with limited defense and one position then we need to make sure we are getting him at the right price. Has Kubel or the Twins ever talked about Kubel playing first? With his injury history would he be able to do it defensively? Any prodictions on his dWAR?

by twinssniwt on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

i've been saying we should try him at 1b...

would have liked to see them do that LAST year to see how he could handle it, given it was a lost year.

they supposedly had him taking grounders there last season. i think he could do it; people forget he was an elite athlete before the knee blowout; but we don’t know.

by DJSkillz on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

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