Kicking the Gio Gonzalez Tires
Billy Beane wants the full enchilada for Gio Gonzalez. Personally, I think we should give it to him and here's why.
The player
Gio Gonzalez: 26 in 2012, 1st round Draft Pick 2004 (CWS)
Free Agent: After 2015 season, 4 years team control, 2012 projected salary: Super Two Arbitration (Somebody more wise can predict the actual amount cause I don't have a clue: somewhere in 2-6 million range seems likely)
Left handed starting pitcher, Oakland A's
Career ERA: 3.93, ERA past two seasons: 3.23 in 2010, 3.12 in 2011
Career WHIP: 1.410, past two seasons: 1.311, 1.317 respectively
Past 2 years: 368 Ks vs 183 walks, 2.01 ratio in 402.2 Innings
So, what we have here is a top level left handed starting pitcher with a bit of a control issue. Sounds like somebody very familiar to the Twins. The big difference as I'm sure you all noted is the innings pitched. Gonzalez over the past two years has been nothing if not consistent, average just over 6 innings and getting a lot of quality starts. His BABIPs have been a relatively pedestrian .277 & .288 over the past two seasons. Helping him will be that he has the potential to miss a lot of bats when he tries, though sometimes when you average a walk every couple innings you might wish to see him hit a few more. No doubt the Twins would try to neuter him in that direction. At .90 & .99 over the past two seasons for Ground Ball to Fly Ball ratio, he's better then average by a decent margin which would give the Twins outfield a bit of a rest. Anyway that's the big stats stuff. For you people who like the fancy ones, have at it.
Scouting report: Low to Mid 90s fastball, sinking 2 seamer in upper 80s reaching 90, a very good curveball and a - value changeup. He throws the better 3 in actually a pretty even ratio with the changeup in their for junk.
In total: Gonzalez is very good, very young, and very very expensive. You can see why. Entering his prime in a couple of years, he's got top of the rotation stuff and is only improving. Playing in Oakland has probably helped him a bit, but, then again, Target Field could only make it better. We've seen him a couple of times and with the exception of one terrible blowout where we blew a 10 run lead under the steadfast crappiness of Captain Blackburn, he's looked good. For a team that is looking for health and innings, Gonzalez would be an excellent pickup.
What We'd Be Giving Up
Beane wants young hitting. A lot of this has been him talking to the Yankees, Tigers and so on about 3+ top prospects, verging on the young side because apparently if the A's move to San Jose, they want these people to be there. Thus, Gonzalez being a free agent in 2016 doesn't help them much. However, Beane has the luxury of time on his side with Gonzalez. He could realistically trade him at any point over the next 4 years and get good return. Somebody is going to be willing to pay for what Gio has put up over the past 2 seasons. Yet, I'd argue that now would be the best time to get him. The Twins have a crapload of young hitting that could be peaking in 4 years. Honestly, of our list of top prospects, position 2-5 and arguably 7 are outfielders. Compare that with the fact that the Twins have Span under control until 2015 and Revere till I believe 2017 (correct me if I'm wrong) with the reality that there are 5 guys competing for 1 or 2 jobs (assuming Willingham only lasts his contract length or ends up at DH). Even if one assumes that those 5 are it for top level outfielding prospects from here until 2016, the Twins have a lot of flexibility to give Beane what he wants. So I say, do it. Next year the Twins project to lose Carl Pavano and Francisco Liriano to free agency, retirement or crappiness. This means that they're going to need pitching, specifically lefthanded inning eaters unless Brian Duensing can somehow surpass the snarky projections of Keith Law (which, if he can, I would jump for joy for). On next year alone, Gio Gonzalez could make the Twins a playoff contender from a .500 team for about the cost of what we currently have leftover from not signing Cuddy.
So what yall think?
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Keith Law's the man...
Duensing will NEVER be a good starter; just not going to happen. He should be a very solid reliever for us for a few years though.
Ya Duensing needs to be back in the pen
he was a really good reliever dominated lefties and could get righties out at a decent clip but as soon as you move him to the rotation and the righties get to see him 2, 3, 4 times it becomes a big problem. I get that he was really good when he first came up as a starter but scouting reports and research catch up to a lot of guys a year or so in and it happened with him as well. Get the max out of the player you can meh 5th starter or good setup guy ill take him as a reliever.
first-worst-first?
by holymackerel on Dec 18, 2011 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
While I like GIo Gonzalez, He has a HIGH K rate, something we don't have, but also a HIGH walk rate
I think he and Rick Anderson would battle to get along and after some battle tested outings we’d probably pull a Garza and give him away , mistakingly .
To get Gio Gonzalez?
It would take Aaron Hicks, Chris Herrmann, Liam Hendriks OR Salcedo, + Kevin Slowey (ohh wait)
…now it’d probably take Gibson or Wimmers (no thanks)
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 19, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions
I don't want to speculate on what it would take
But what you suspect is a lot more than we got for Johan Santana. Gonzales is good, but he’s never had a Cy Young.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I don't think Johan is a good comparison.
Gio makes league minimum and is under team control for several more years. In contrast, Johan was already making $8 million, was due for a big pay raise, and the Twins were going to lose him after that season anyway (most likely).
by spanspanspan on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 AM EST up reply actions
Great point, I hope you're right :)
I just really do believe Beane thinks he can get the whole enchilada for this one.
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 20, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions


























