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Every time you call Nishioka "Yoshi"

God kills a kitten.

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Be good global citizens, Twinkie Towners. Think of the kittens.

At the very least, think of Nishioka's preferred nickname and not a video game character from 20 years ago whose most memorable trait was using his own young (which he laid eggs containing) as projectiles. Japan is weird.

 

* "In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming." Go read some Lovecraft, it's mostly public domain now!

Poll
Someone asks you who the Twins starting 2B is. Quick, what's his name?
"Why, Nishioka, sir! I'll have you know that he comes with a fine Nippon Professional League pedigree."
47 votes
"Nishi is just small and scrappy enough to hold onto his job even if he's terrible."
40 votes
"Yoshi is the best! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!*"
23 votes

110 votes | Poll has closed

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I was afraid to vote.

I thought I may be enchanting some black magic spell over the Twins with your trickery.

For the record, I have nothing personal against kittens per se.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yoshi means good or lucky.

It’s a compliment. Plus, that video game was pretty successful, wasn’t it?

by Caleb A on Mar 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nishi means "Dandy"

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or at least according to Google translated articles (always saying his nickname is “Dandy”)

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have it all wrong

Birdo, not Yoshi, was the one who used his eggs as projectiles (and yes, despite being pink and wearing a bow, Birdo was male, according to the Super Mario Bros. 2 manual). Yoshi and his friends/relatives hatched from eggs, but he didn’t eat or spit them – your only interaction with them was watching them hatch when you spawned a fresh Yoshi.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 15, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

In newer versions

Yoshi throws eggs (I think its the game cube version, but I could be wrong because my brother stole the game cube so I have only played it a few times)

"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem—once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." -Al Gallagher

by twinsgirl197 on Mar 15, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother stole the n64 too

My parents actually had to buy two wiis so we wouldn’t kill eachother when he left for college

"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem—once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." -Al Gallagher

by twinsgirl197 on Mar 15, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not aware of that

I played virtually nothing on the GameCube and only Super Mario 64 on the N64 (which didn’t heavily involve Yoshi), so my Yoshi knowledge is entirely from Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 – Yoshi is does not use his embryonic family members as weapons in those games.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 16, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

But what about Yoshi and Pavario?

This was a triumph
I'm making a note here - huge success

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 15, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was looking forward to this matchup.

It’s too bad he prefers Nishi…

"Huh. I thought the FAQ had you listed as "Twinkie Town Goddess" but hey, whatever you prefer." -wayback, 3/9/11

by fischean on Mar 15, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yoshi, Yoshi, Yoshi

I like dogs.

Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD

by Twins33 on Mar 15, 2011 7:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

exactly

Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD

by Twins33 on Mar 18, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care that he prefers Nishi

I like Yoshi better. Whatever ESPN calls him is what he’ll be known as, and I’m betting on Yoshi.

by ballermat982 on Mar 15, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty sure ESPN will call him by his name, Tsuyoshi Nishioka

It’s not that hard people….

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10 for the spooning cats

Formerly thewild_viking_twins. Because my old profile was kidnapped by ninjas, and I was NOT a bad enough dude to rescue it...

by NorthernStar on Mar 16, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

THANK YOU!!!!

This is something that bugs me too, you hit my feelings square on the head. It seems like people only want to call him Yoshi because of repressed nostalgia for Super Mario Bros… That’s not his name! Get over it!

His name is Tsuyoshi, not Yoshi. If you don’t want to call him “Nishi”, can’t you atleast muster the decency to call him by his actual name? It’s not that hard—think “tsunami”. Then say “Tsuyoshi”. The “Tsu” sound is the same in both. See? Not that hard folks!

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

A boy named Tsu?

The only stat that counts is W
A player’s UZR does not necessarily tell you how he actually played just as it does not necessarily tell you what his true talent is. Mitchel Lichtman, creator of UZR

by wayback on Mar 17, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Explination as to WHY calling him Yoshi makes no flippin' sense

Nishi is a part of his natural Japanese name. Yoshi is not.

Look at these character translations:
Tsuyoshi = 剛
Nishioka = 西岡
Nishi = 西
Yoshi = よし

Which of these things is not like the other one???

Do you see “Yoshi” anywhere in “Tsuyoshi Nishioka”? What about “Nishi”?

It makes a lot more sense calling him Nishi rather than Yoshi. Yoshi is a distinctly different Japanese name, whereas Nishi is actually part of Tsuyoshi Nishioka’s name.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry I feel a bit strongly about this

But I actually think calling him “Yoshi” is disrespectful. As if us “arrogant Westerns” won’t even call him his actual name.

It’s like calling “Justin Morneau” “Jason Morneau”, but doing is on purpose.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

It’s like calling Justin Morneau “Megaman” because we all like video games more than we do Justin Morneau.

by DJL44 on Mar 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Morneau won the HR Derby in 2009.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
RT @RonGarde You can Tweet that. Just Tweet it. You don't even have to write it. Just fire it through the Internet.

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 16, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Counterpoint

First, let me say that I have no problem with “Nishi”, I agree that it’s preferable to call a guy what he prefers to be called, and we can probably do better for an alternate nickname than “Yoshi”. That said, I’m going to take the devil’s advocate position here…

To start with, why should what he wants to be called have any bearing on what random people on the internet call him in posts he will never read? I doubt Jesse Crain liked to be called “Crainwreck” and Punto liked being called “Little Nicky Punto”, yet we had no problem doing so. Maybe it’s not exactly nice, but I also don’t see it as some sort of great insult if we post pictures of a fictional green dinosaur in game threads when he does well, unless it escalates to TwinkieTowners showing up at Target Field and pelting him with green spotted eggs or something.

Regarding “Yoshi” not being part of his name as it’s written in Japanese, I see that as even more irrelevant. Nicknames, especially pun-based ones, are almost always based on what a name sounds like, not how it’s written. Also, we rarely write in Japanese around here, so “yoshi” IS part of his name for 99% of Twins fans, just as much as whatever characters make up “Joe Mauer” in Japanese would be part of his name if he played for the Nippon Ham Fighters.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 16, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

I mean really, is “Pumpkin Tits” respectful?

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 16, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

His wife calls him that.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 16, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er...Blackburns' wife, not BeefMaster's

Not that I know of anyway.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 16, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

The use of “Yoshi” does not strike me as a nickname like LNP or Crainwreck. It strikes me as as the lazy white American’s way to avoid learning to pronounce his real name, Tsuyoshi.

LNP is natural because Punto is small, gritty, and cute. Crainwreck makes sense because the guy is always wrecking baseball games. But Yoshi has no independent meaning over than the fact it’s also a Japanese name. It’s not analogous.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 16, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We use plenty of other nicknames with no in-game meaning

Chairman Mauer, Dr. Neau, Cuddles, Demon, Sweet Drew, etc.

And I think you’re preaching to the wrong choir about mispronouncing Nishioka. You’re going to find a lot of high information fans here, not the type to mispronounce “Nishioka.”

This was a triumph
I'm making a note here - huge success

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 16, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I realize John Gordon doesn't post here and everyone can pronounce Nishioka

And I’ve never heard SON OF SAL called “Sweet Drew.” Sorry.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 17, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Son of Sal" is a good one

This was a triumph
I'm making a note here - huge success

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 17, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

REQUIRED READING

You need to go back and read every one of Stu’s Pavstache FanPosts immediately.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 17, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess I just don't understand what the big deal is

I call Cuddyer “Cuddy” along with a lot of other people. I feel like that’s the exact same as calling Nishioka “Yoshi.” Both are part of their names.

I don’t call Cuddyer “Cuddy” to his face, but I post it that way. I wouldn’t call Nishioka “Yoshi” to his face either, but I’ll type it that way because I think it’s a cool nickname. Neither nicknames are offensive in any way. It’s not like I’m calling him “piece of crap” or something.

Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD

by Twins33 on Mar 18, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly right

I still recced the post, though, cuz the “God kills a kitten” argument makes me laugh just about every time.

by archie2227 on Mar 16, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I could see a Demon/Elmon thing working

He’s Nishi when he’s dandy and Yoshi when he lays an egg.

The only stat that counts is W
A player’s UZR does not necessarily tell you how he actually played just as it does not necessarily tell you what his true talent is. Mitchel Lichtman, creator of UZR

by wayback on Mar 17, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It's not that some of us can't pronounce Tsuyoshi

…it’s just that Yoshi is easier to say. Just like…say…Nishi is easier to say than Nishioka.

See? It isn’t about being a fat, lazy, stupid, arrogant westerner; it’s just human nature.

And mad props for the Cthulhu references. BTW. Good post.

by MarkusRex on Mar 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Tsuyoshi really isn't hard to pronouce

If you can say “Tsunami”, you can say “Tsuyoshi”

But yes, I probably did exaggerate how much I dislike the nickname “Yoshi.” I guess it’s not that bad. But I still prefer calling him by his name.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

New demand

All players must be called by their full names, including Joseph Mauer, Nicholas Blackburn, Patrick Neshek, and Michelangelo Cuddyer.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 18, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Keiunta Denard Span

This was a triumph
I'm making a note here - huge success

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Nicholas Blackburn.

Timothy Scott Baker.

"Huh. I thought the FAQ had you listed as "Twinkie Town Goddess" but hey, whatever you prefer." -wayback, 3/9/11

by fischean on Mar 18, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget...

Melroy Jason Repko
Alejandro Drew Butera
Bruce Roger Jose Mijares
Elwood Glendale Perkins
Albert Lexus Casilla
Catherine Danielle Valencia

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

...I could believe Perk's real first name was Elwood.

Just sayin’.

"Huh. I thought the FAQ had you listed as "Twinkie Town Goddess" but hey, whatever you prefer." -wayback, 3/9/11

by fischean on Mar 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That made me giggle

so far it’s the highlight of my day (not hard to beat a migraine though) But Catherine Danielle? I actually know someone who’s name is Catherine Danielle who is obsessed with Valencia, I’m so emailing her that lol:)

"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem—once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." -Al Gallagher

by twinsgirl197 on Mar 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Gordon is going to poop his pants

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on Mar 18, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I like to call Delmon Young “Lazy-D” but I can’t seems to get it to catch on. Probably because “Elmon” is so much funnier. I doubt he thinks either is funny. Maybe, but I’d doubt it. He’d probably prefer “Delmon” or “Mister Young” or “Mister GodsGiftToBaseball” or “El Presidente” or something more flattering than “Elmon”.

You can’t pick your own nickname. It just doesn’t work like that.

Maybe Mr. Nishioka likes Nishi better, but if the English-speaking baseball world agrees (informally of course) that he’s Yoshi, then Yoshi it is. He’ll have to get used to it, much as he’ll have to get used to many other things here.

by MarkusRex on Mar 17, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

How insensitive.

"Huh. I thought the FAQ had you listed as "Twinkie Town Goddess" but hey, whatever you prefer." -wayback, 3/9/11

by fischean on Mar 17, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it now

No “K”

But it’s only funny when written.

by MarkusRex on Mar 18, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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