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Can Luke Hughes Crack the Twins Opening Day Roster?

In the game thread earlier tonight I mentioned that I'd be back with some Liriano conversation for us to chew on, but let's be honest: right now you can get that story ten ways from Sunday. As true as it is that I have my own take on it, I'm boring myself by reading about it on blogs and Twitter and everywhere else. So instead let's talk about Luke Hughes. Because he hit another home run today.

Really, it's probably not a fair day to ask this question. Because before he blasted that solo homer in the sixth to give the Twins a 3-1 lead, he'd also struck out twice and then made a throwing error. He played second base this afternoon, and while moving to his right to field a ground ball ended up making contact with Trevor Plouffe (so you can see how far and deep he'd already had to go) and still decided to try and make the throw to first. There was no way he was going to get the runner but he tried anyway, and proceeded to toss the ball into the seats behind first base.

But that home run...

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not "reading too much into one plate appearance in spring training", because I know very well how little good that does. It's too easy to look back to the hot start Juan Portes had in spring training last year, and then to note how he'd done by the time the curtain fell on spring training and it was time to seperate the men from the boys. But it's the home run that makes me ask the question, because when it comes to the talents of Luke Hughes the one thing that really stands out is his offense. He's actually capable of hitting.

And when you look at the projected bench for the Minnesota Twins (Jim Thome, Drew Butera, Jason Repko, Matt Tolbert) none of those guys can hit AND field a position. Gardy's options are either-or, and while this is a scenario we're all familiar with and one he's dealt with more often than not in his tenure as manager, that doesn't mean it's an ideal situation.

So, can Luke Hughes crack the Twins opening day roster? And if so, how? That's after the jump.

Star-divide

While Hughes' home run illustrated what he has working in his favor, his miscue in the field illustrated what he doesn't have going for him. Over the years the Twins have moved him around the field in an endeavor to find a position that works for him. He began at shortstop and was pretty quickly moved to third base and then to second, before spending some time in the outfield (mostly left but a little right and center as well) and then seeing most of his time at third base again. Right now it certainly looks like the Twins view him as a guy who can shift between second and third, and in a pinch could probably back up the corner outfield spots and first base.

But for our purposes we'll just concern ourselves with second and third.

Issue #1: The Twins will carry a 12-man pitching staff, which means a four-man bench.

This means that in order to make the team, Hughes is going to take the place of (from our projected bench) Matt Tolbert. Repko is the only other guy on the roster who can legitimately play center, Butera is the only backup catcher you'd trust to call a game, and nobody puts Thome in a corner. But in removing Tolbert you're removing a guy who doesn't just play second and third, but can play shortstop as well.

Which Hughes doesn't do.

Solution to issue #1: To place Hughes on your four-man bench, you must be comfortable with your backup shortstop being your starting second baseman. In the situation where the shortstop is unable to go, the second baseman slides over and Hughes could step in at second base.

Issue #2: Your off-days for your middle infielders will need to be handled with a bit more care.

With Tolbert in the mix, you (in theory) have three players who can all play the two middle infield postiions: Tolbert, Alexi Casilla and (again, in theory) Tsuyoshi Nishioka. Still, Casilla and Nishioka will have their dedicated role, which means that when one of them has a day off, Tolbert simply slides into their position.

With Hughes in the mix, your starting second baseman now has to be familiar with playing shortstop on a regular basis. Theory doesn't cut it, he'll need to know how to handle the position, because when the shortstop needs a blow the second baseman will have to slide over in order to accomodate Hughes at number four.

Solution to issue #2: Both of your starting middle infielders must take drills at both second and short in order to make them as interchangeable as possible. Again, in theory this doesn't sound terrible, but in practice it gets a bit more tricky.

Issue #3: Gardy likes versatility.

This is more or less where it's game over for the Hughes-makes-the-roster idea. I know that when I spoke to Rob Antony last week he said that both Hughes and Trevor Plouffe may have the best opportunities to take a starting job at one of those two middle infield spots, but barring an injury this just doesn't seem realistic at all. The Twins have paid Nishioka to start, and they have put themselves in a position with Casilla where they need to give him a starting position in order to make the J.J. Hardy move look like they thought it was one that could improve the club. At least on opening day, Hughes nor Plouffe will be prying second or short away from Nishioka or Casilla.

That leaves the one infield spot on the bench available. And because we know how Gardy works, and because he's seen Tolbert play for him the last three seasons (at second, third and short, no less), it becomes really, really difficult to see how Hughes can fit.

Yes, we know he can fit, but sliding that into how we know the organization operates it's like fitting a square peg into a round hole.

At some point this year Hughes will get his opportunities. It's just not likely to be right away.

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Matty T

How long will it be until we here Gardy comment on Tolberts “Battleyertailoff” work ethic

by WITwinsfan on Mar 2, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

He'll play when we can afford to go down to 11 pitchers

If all goes well, it could happen in May. But it depends on starters giving us quality innings and the bullpen being better than expected.

But I just can’t see Gardy going with no bench guy who can play short.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 2, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

That usually doesn't happen long-term

I think they only ran with 11 pitchers last year a couple times when they needed a third catcher on the roster (nagging Mauer injuries) – I’m pretty sure they kept 12 pretty much all season otherwise.

I think 11 pitchers is plenty, but Gardy doesn’t seem to agree, and I suppose it’s defensible in a year like this when they need to try out a lot of guys in the bullpen.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 3, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

Otherwise, Hughes is in AAA for depth. He’d likely be the first guy called up in case of an injury to Thome. He also might be on the roster in case Morneau or Cuddyer aren’t ready for opening day.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

Morneau or Cuddyer would go on the DL if they aren’t ready, but I expect Cuddyer to be ready.

by Jessy S on Mar 3, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah

If Cuddy or Morneau aren’t ready, and they’re on the DL, then Hughes makes the roster.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 3, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That is what I've been saying you fool

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

They go to 11 when they do an NL road trip

Otherwise not very often and only until injuries are sorted out.

by DJL44 on Mar 3, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

Second will be a battle to the death for Luke Hughes and Alexi Casilla. It will be Casilla’s burden to see if he can handle being the starting 2B. If not, there is no shame in giving him a DFA or trade him. Matt Tolbert will make this club no matter what.

by Jessy S on Mar 2, 2011 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Say what?

Why will 2B be the battle between Casilla and Hughes; Alexi looks like he might be the shortstop … he has better instincts at short than second. And DFA Casilla? Cmon!! You don’t trade your starting shortstop and then eject his possible replacement because a minor league prospect has a good spring.

Personally, I’m not a big fan of the 12-man pitching staff. Seven relievers seems like a lot, but then in today’s pitch-count, change-pitcher happy game atmosphere, I guess you gotta do what ya gotta do. A 4-man bench just seems too thin to me.

That being said, I agree Tolbert is your reserve infielder. I wish Hughes moved a little better in the field and could cover shortstop in a pinch; i’d make him my reserve infielder. I like the pop!!

Go Twins!

by AceWrigley on Mar 2, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

True

If I had to make the decision today, Tolbert would be my reserve infielder too. But what I am saying is that Nishioka will likely be our starting shortstop no matter what. This means that the battle will be between Casilla and Hughes. We already know that, minus backup catcher, that Jason Repko, Jim Thome and Matt Tolbert are our reserves. This means that it is either Casllla or Hughes, that is unless Justin Morneau can’t go opening day and starts the season on the DL. Yes Hughes had an error today, but a lot of players make errors. They just don’t matter in the grand scheme of baseball for the most part. The only time they do matter is when it is a deciding game of the World Series or other playoff series and it is a late inning. Think about how much trouble Joe Mauer would be in if he made an error in the bottom of the ninth inning of Game 7 of the 2011 World Series and that error allowed the winning run to score. We would be calling for his head because Mauer cost the team a World Championship.

by Jessy S on Mar 2, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha What?

I’m sorry, but I’m hard time figuring out if this a joke or not. Where did that bit about the errors come from?

by Caulfield on Mar 3, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It is Jessy S

I always have a hard time figuring out if it is a joke or not

by DJL44 on Mar 3, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Error talk came from defending Hughes

Besides, they really only matter in critical moments of the game or season.

by Jessy S on Mar 3, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You could say that about anything

Singles, homers, walks, strikeouts – they only matter at critical times, just like errors.

But that’s not true. Enough of them at the right times over the course of a season can determine whether there even ARE critical moments for the errors/hits/walks/strikeouts that we remember afterward.

"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

by BeefMaster on Mar 3, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

As of today, Nishioka is our starting second baseman

Casilla is our starting shortstop. Do you really think Gardy would start Nishioka at second base in his first three spring training games if he intended to make him the starting shortstop? If Casilla gets hurt, it’s another story. But assuming Casilla is healthy and moderately productive this spring, he is our starting shortstop.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter

Gardy can play him at any position he wants during spring training.

by Jessy S on Mar 3, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and just to spite me, Gary switched them today

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think Nishioka will be the second baseman

All Gardy’s ever talked about since the beginning of the offseason is how much he likes Casilla at SS. He said he was going to switch the two up during Spring Training just to see, but he still said he prefers Casilla at short.

Plus, now that he’s seen Nishioka at 2B he said he loved what he saw from him.

Baseball reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.-Terence Mann/James Earl Jones in FoD

by Twins33 on Mar 3, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, I like the idea and the column, but I think I'm actually on the side of Gardy and grit on this one.

Hughes may prove a much better hitter than Tolbert, but he hasn’t really proven it in the minors yet. All of 12 OPS points better than Tolbert so far, which seems like a discrepancy far eclipsed by Tolbert’s superior glove. Hughes is also younger, which argues towards letting him develop (and make his case) in the minors and opting for the experienced career bench player in Tolbert at the MLB level.

And Tolbert’s not all that bad for what he is. He’s got a 653 OPS in about 450 MLB plate appearances, which is hardly stellar, or even helpful, but it’s not the total black hole that Butera is. Not that Butera should be a yardstick, but still, you can live with what Tolbert gives you in a useful bench glove.

by Luke in MN on Mar 2, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

The back of the lineup

That has Tolbert at 8 & Butera at 9 worries me

by clutterheart on Mar 3, 2011 12:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Changed my mind.

I was all for Hughes as the bench guy, but the more I think about it, the more I realize it’s not a great idea. The three issues you raised are legitimate concerns.

But, it will be nice to have him as insurance. If Casilla or Nishioka play terribly or get hurt, we can call him up to play 2B. Until then, he’ll be playing full time in the minors and gaining experience. I just hope we don’t see too much Tolbert this year.

"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."

by PurplePeopleEaters on Mar 2, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

But, but...

Toll-bear! He’s a BEAR!

… ok, yeah. No. :)

by Patrick42 on Mar 2, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I can has offensive bat?

Apparently not.

The only stat that counts is W

by wayback on Mar 2, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno.

I find Tol-bears bat plenty offensive.

by Patrick42 on Mar 2, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad they cant carry 11 pitchers

Nathan’s injury handcuffs Gardy’s options.

by clutterheart on Mar 3, 2011 12:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I like him to be the first guy called up should either our 2B or Valencia go on the DL

At this point Tolbert is a total non-prospect and at best will be a career utility guy but I doubt he’s even in the league in a couple years as he’s incredibly replaceable. So you waste him on the bench most of the time and keep letting Hughes and Plouffe work on their games in the minors. I assume that Plouffe and Hughes would be called up to play everyday if someone went down.

Also I look at our bench and I realize that generally one of Kubel/Cuddyer/Thome will be on that bench to pinch hit if needed. Makes me feel pretty good compared to most of our bench players in the past.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Mar 3, 2011 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

I think keeping him down might be better for our offense

Why is that? Because it eliminates the need for Nishi to adapt to two positions in the field and to be ready for that at all times and instead let’s him focus on his offense more.

by twinscrazy_german on Mar 3, 2011 3:36 AM EST reply actions  

Let Luke work it out in Rochester

I think we still look at Luke as a prospect, and would probably like him to play every day somewhere to continue his development. At this point already I’m sure Hughes is a better overall player than Tolbert, but just picking your top 25 players in the entire organization and calling that your MLB roster isnt a great idea. The twins have always known this, hence why we didnt have Wilson Ramos on the MLB roster at the beginning of last season. I’m certain we will be seeing Luke with the Twins sooner rather than later.

Also like Ramos, start throwing Hughes less fastballs and see what happens….

by jriot on Mar 3, 2011 5:28 AM EST reply actions  

Throw anything to Tolbert and see what happens

Hughs is My pick to make the Team. Last year I wanted Valencia and J. Jones to make the team. I’m not sure on the relief pitchers yet. I’ll get a better feel for that in a week or so. As much as we say the Twins give young player a chance, I’m seeing it more like we give Vets the chance to fail and then bring up the rookie. It’s getting a little old to me. Lets start the best players, Rookie or Vet.

by b1 on Mar 3, 2011 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Not a Hughes Fan

He has hardly played at AAA, is not reputed to be even average with the glove anywhere, and doesn’t offer speed off the bench. He reminds me of Harris a bit, in that he can play multiple positions, but not well and has pop for a middle infielder, but can’t defend well enough to stay there.

by Alexi Casilla All-Star on Mar 3, 2011 7:31 AM EST reply actions  

Can we go one season without

needing a scapegoat who is a light-hitting reserve infielder who can play good defense at a lot of positions?

Just one year.

IOW, leave Tolbert alone. He’ll be fine. Being a scrapper and a hustler is a legitimate role in MLB.

by Old Twins Cap on Mar 3, 2011 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

Who's scapegoating Tolbert?

He has value, I never said he didn’t. In fact, the Twins are probably better off with Tolbert and his versatility.

by Jesse on Mar 3, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Let see:

Ligh-hitting reserve, Butters,Tolbert,Repko. Guys that can hit that could be back-ups: Hughes,Tosoni,Benson,Revere,

by b1 on Mar 3, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

all of your backups

are outfielders. Hughes is not that great in the infield and is better in the outfield so I consider him an outfielder. That could be a problem!

...formerly known as 33MorneauMVP

by BCTwins on Mar 3, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hughes will never see the outfield

just like Dinkelman will never see Minnesota outfield. Hughes will play some games at 2B and maybe DH,3B before years end.

by b1 on Mar 4, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure he'd like to help

But he needs to get back to Australia and help his uncle with those moisture vaporators. He doesn’t want to get caught up in Obi-Ron’s damn fool idealistic crusade against the empire.

by Han Joelo on Mar 3, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hughes will make the roster if...

Justin Morneau isn’t ready. If he has not yet been cleared to play, Cuddy will slide to 1st, Kubel will head back out to RF, Thome will take DH and Hughes will land on the bench. Repko would still be around to backup the OF spots and Hughes could play 1st when Thome needs a day off (allowing Kubel to DH and Cuddy to return to RF). Hughes would also be OF depth in case whatever happens.

I would like to see Hughes get an extended look if he has a decent spring, but, barring new injuries this seems to be his best shot at making the opening day roster.

by Ranger_Bob on Mar 3, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Watch the waiver wire

There is a decent chance someone better than Hughes and Tolbert is put on waivers to begin the season. The bench infielder might not be on the roster at the moment.

by DJL44 on Mar 3, 2011 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Antony hinted as much

I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade Slowey for a starting middle infielder and move Casilla to utility, if he doesn’t measure up as a starter.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny

The going rate is somewhere between what the Rays got and the Twins got. A wide disparity, I know. I don’t think a straight-up deal would be quite fair. But a package including a starting shortstop who’s young, cheap and an upgrade over Casilla might work.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Old and cheap might work too

Seattle currently has a SS controversy. Jack Wilson could end up on waivers or Brendan Ryan could be dealt. Scutaro and Lowrie are battling in Boston.

I see the Twins giving Casilla several months to take the job unless he’s horrible or hurt in spring training. Things might get interesting at the trade deadline with Jose Reyes, JJ Hardy and Rafael Furcal available.

The only trade target that seems to meet your criteria is Mike Aviles.

by DJL44 on Mar 3, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Good names

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Blackburn

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Bench players don't need to Field AND hit

Jesse mentions that Luke Hughes might be the only guy who can field and hit. For a long term replacement for an injury, you want a guy who can do both. Otherwise, for day-to-day pinch hitting and defensive replacements, you look for a guy who can specialize. I’d rather keep a guy like Hughes in Rochester with a car on standby to take him to the airport the minute we need him for 2 weeks because someone gets dinged up. He’s a long term sub, not a bench player.

"Sacrifice for the unknown" - Herb Brooks

by Dr. Yogi on Mar 3, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Money quote.
they have put themselves in a position with Casilla where they need to give him a starting position in order to make the J.J. Hardy move look like they thought it was one that could improve the club.

How sad.

There’s a lot more potential difference between them with the bat than 12 points of career minor league OPS suggest. Hughes posted a wOBA around .420 at AA in 2008. That said, I actually think Hughes will benefit from time at AAA. I just really don’t want Matt Tolbert on the club. Hopefully something comes across the waiver wire and for once a personnel decision isn’t made with deference to Gardenhire.

by tobynotjason on Mar 3, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

I don't agree with the money quote

The Hardy trade was 90% about money and 10% about getting more for him than they would have gotten had they nontendered him. Casilla is an option, But they are actively looking to upgrade the middle. It’s just easier to do that in the spring than in the winter. If Casilla doesn’t work, they’ll get someone else. Why would they be ashamed about that?

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 3, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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