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2011 Twins Opening Day Roster Set?

After the moves that the Twins have made over the last few days, it looks like the team heading north is complete. Barring injuries or some other transaction this week, how does the roster sit? Let's take a look.

Pos Starting 9 Pos Bench
C Joe Mauer C Drew Butera
1B Justin Morneau IF Matt Tolbert
2B Tsuyoshi Nishioka OF Jason Repko
3B Danny Valencia DH Jim Thome
SS Alexi Casilla
LF Delmon Young
CF Denard Span
RF Michael Cuddyer
DH Jason Kubel
Pos Rotation Pos Bullpen
SP Francisco Liriano RHP Joe Nathan
SP Carl Pavano RHP Matt Capps
SP Brian Duensing LHP Jose Mijares
SP Nick Blackburn RHP Kevin Slowey
SP Scott Baker LHP Dusty Hughes
LHP Glen Perkins
RHP Jeff Manship

For position players, the only real question since Morneau came back was which guy would be the bench infielder: Matt Tolbert or Luke Hughes. I made a case for both players this spring, and honestly it's hard to say which guy I would have preferred at this point. Let's be honest: neither player will be so valuable (or not valuable) as to make a significant difference in the overall fortunes of the club. The only way that would have been possible would have been for one of them to pry the starting job away from Alexi Casilla or Tsuyoshi Nishioka...and that just wasn't going to happen barring an act of the baseball gods.

The real interest this spring has been the battles for the rotation and speculation over which arms would flesh out the last three or four spots in the bullpen. Personally I'm glad Kevin Slowey isn't going anywhere, because if he's healthy and the Twins keep him in that role I think he'll excel.

Scott Diamond was one of the final arms in the mix, but with the Twins already choosing to go with three lefties in relief (and Diamond not necessarily pitching all that well anyway) he has already passed through waivers. Now it's just a waiting game to see if the Twins and Braves can work out a deal that would allow Minnesota to assign him to Rochester. I expect the Twins will either send Atlanta a non-prospect or cash, and I'd be surprised if Minnesota would end up having to send him back.

For your reference, here's the opening day roster from last season.

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Should be an interesting year

The bullpen really scares me though…might be the 1 weakness of the team

by TonyO on Mar 27, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Weakness vs Something to Prove

Maybe I’m just splitting hairs or have swallowed the kool-aid already or something, but I’m feeling philosophical tonight. Weaknesses are only weaknesses until they have the opportunity to prove otherwise. I think the back end might struggle to find its feet initially, but I think they’ll find their balance eventually. No doubt that balance won’t involved the seven guys I listed.

by Jesse on Mar 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have to have a weakness, bullpen is a good one to have

Like Jesse said, guys will cycle in and out of the pen until they find a balance. None of the bullpen guys will see enough innings to make a huge difference, and we should have good high leverage options in Mijares, Capps, and Nathan.

"Nobody wants to hear me rap." - Joe Mauer

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 27, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Just look at our bullpen from a year ago. Only one name was on that list a year ago and it was Jose Mijares. If form holds, I suspect that four of those guys might not make to to June. Now it is granted that we did have Joe Nathan miss last season, but we don’t know how he will perform this season.

by Jessy S on Mar 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not one to usually disagree when disparaging a bullpen

…but I do have to bring up the proverbial “dead horse and beat the ever-living tar out of it” when I point out we have a horrible tendancy to lose playoff games after holding a lead. I think we’ve led every playoff game against the yankees except for something like game three of last years playoffs.

Yes, I also know come October our bats are suspect in the postseason as well, but if you noticed many of the teams in the last few years in the playoffs have had upper echeleon bullpens.

JIM JAMS BUSINESS IS MASHING TATERS, AND BUSINESS IS GOOD!!!

by MashinTaters on Mar 28, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullpen "might be the weakness"

When you have a guy like Cuddyer batting 8th, and 7 solid starters, it doesn’t take much to have the bullpen be the weakness.

by JustDoIt11 on Mar 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like the bullpen is usually considered a weakness

Not every time, but a lot of the time. I’m not sure if there was this much turnover from one season to the next though.

The Twins have had a top five AL bullpen almost every year except maybe one since Gardy took over. That’s a pretty good track record for a bullpen that usually isn’t expected to be great by the “experts.”

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by Twins33 on Mar 28, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensive Production out of our Stone OF

Hopefully we Cuddy and Young have great offensive years to make up for their stone-like structure in the outfield. Overall I like the roster but OF scares me more than the pen.

by Dnassume on Mar 27, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like it's such a wimp answer

but I honestly think the biggest asset to the Twins this year will be health. If guys stay healthy, they’ll be okay.

Big years from Cuddy and Young would go a long way towards making this a good team. Bouceback seasons from Span and Kubel would help too, offensively.

In the bullpen yeah, I would really say I’m worried about it. It’s interesting. At least two of those guys will flame out at some point as we’ll get to see some of that minor league pitching depth. Waldrop, Diamond, Burnett, Slama…plenty of options.

by Jesse on Mar 27, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Scares me

is the Gnome sittling on the Target Field bench. At least the Twins do have Kevin Slowey in the pen and have Joe Nathan back.

by Jessy S on Mar 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Regressions and improvements

Regressions
1. Shortstop: Casilla is a step down from Hardy, especially on the defensive side.
2. Bullpen: The bullpen is stronger at the end, but not as deep. Still, the Twins entered the season last year with Rauch as the closer and Crain, Guerrier, and Duesning as solid contributors. This year, it’s Nathan with Capps, Mijares and Slowey as solid contributors. Probably only a slight regression there.
3. Bench: Tolbert, Repko and Butera will catch the ball. Thome will hit. But it’s not a good bench.

Progressions
1. Third base: A full year of Valencia will be much better even if his rate stats regress as expected.
2. First base: Ditto. I don’t think Morneau will get it going right away. But having him in September and October will be huge. And having his defense all year is also huge.
3. Catcher: A lot of catchers wouldn’t have gutted it out through those injuries, especially the knee.
4. Right Field: Cuddyer was really hurt last year. Also, it’s a contract year for both right fielders and Kubel should progress to the mean.
5. Second base: Hudson was good. Nishioka will be better.
6. Left Field: Delmon will hit his stride this year
7. Center field: Span should progress to the mean.
8. Rotation: Baker’s and Blackburn’s health will be key.

When I look at last year’s roster, I’m amazed we won 94 games, considering health and slumps. The only guys who had career years were Delmon, Liriano, and Pavano. Delmon and Liriano have upside left.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 27, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Good summary

I would only quibble with a few things. First, I’m not ready to call Nishioka an improvement over Hudson. Hudson was very good last year, and I’d be ecstatic to see Nishi exceed him, but I still don’t know enough to predict how Nishi will adjust to MLB.

Second, I think the rotation overall will be a wash. Blackburn and Baker should improve. But I don’t expect Pavano and Duensing to match their 2010 performances. I think it evens out overall, neither a progression nor a regression.

"Nobody wants to hear me rap." - Joe Mauer

by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Mar 27, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I have followed him quite a bit this spring and he looks terrific. But spring training is not the regular season. One thing I do know: He will be healthier and faster than Hudson was. Defensively, all accounts are he’ll be better. But offensively, it could be a wash.

I’m with you on the rotation. I’d call it a wash if I didn’t have so much faith in Duensing, irrational faith, I admit, by the numbers. Also, it won’t take much for Baker and Blackburn to be better than last year, particularly in the middle of the season. If they return to 2009 form, it will be a huge improvement.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 27, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bench

Not so much a regression, methinks, as much as a wash. It isn’t great shakes this year, but is Tolbert, Repko, Butera, Thome really any worse than Harris, Casilla, Butera Thome last year? At least we have someone to spell CF…

by gbg on Mar 27, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No surprises here

Bullpen looks good, I think. Top 3 or 4 guys look strong, I think manship can be good, I I’m confident they’ll find guys to be decent in the other spots. Honestly it isn’t that hard for a ML pitcher to pitch decently well in low leverage innings as the 4th or 5th middle reliever in a bullpen. Nathan makes a big difference, obviously, without him the pen is only mediocre, but with him, it could be very, very solid.

Middle infield is preeeeeeetty high risk.

Twins have the starting pitching depth that would make most teams turn green with envy. That may be the biggest strength of the team outside the M&M boys.

Chicago is a lot better this year, but the Twins have a very good squad too. That is a LOT of starting pitching, and some good bats, that’s a tough combo.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Mar 27, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

The key

I’d say the key’s for the team are:

1. Obviously Mauer’s health. No player in baseball replaces Joe, and he is just simply a huge part of the production of the team, and is payed like it. This will continue to be the #1 key for the Twins for the forseeable future.

2. The left side of the infield staying healthy and playing respectably well. The Twins can absorb injuries in the corner outfield, and even first base, with all of the shifts they can make at those positions (we saw it just last year) but there is NO contingency plan if Valencia, Casilla, or Nishioka miss substantial time, or if any of them struggle badly (Danny V sophomore slump, Casilla has struggled before, and we never can be sure how Nishi will adjust). Seriously, TOlbert is the only backup option, that’s not good. These guys have to stay on the field, and hold down their spots.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Mar 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Correction

Danny V does have a LITTLE bit of backup in Luke Hughes, so the team could PROBABLY deal with Danny V missing 6 weeks or something with some injury, but the point otherwise remains.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
"In God we trust. All others must provide evidence."
~ Billy Beane

by AdamOnFirst on Mar 27, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The infield looks stronger...

…If Morneau can stay healthy all year, that is a huge plus. Nishioka, Casilla and Valencia is an improvement over Hudson, Hardy and Punto/whomever at third. Yes, Hardy was better than Casilla is expected to be, at least for the first half. Casilla should be an improvement over what Hardy was in the second half. All in all, Nishioka is an improvement over Hudson, Casilla a wash with Hardy and Valencia all year should be an improvement over a half year. The rest of the every day lineup is the same…so we should be better 1-9 + DH.

Starting pitching is the same and a healthy Baker/Blackburn should be an improvement. Duensing/Slowey should even out as they flip spots. Last year we had Crain, Guerrier, MIjares and Rauch. This year we have Nathan, Mijares and Capps. Last year we had Neshek and Condrey, neither of who helped. Will a couple of the young guys be better than those fill-ins last year? Can Bill Smith go out and duplicate the moves he did mid-season to fill a spot in the bullpen if needed? If he can, the Twins should be better than 2010.

by roger13 on Mar 27, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Only move left is what to do with Scott Diamond?

Teams have until 11am, Thursday, March 31. Diamond has passed through waivers, which tells everyone that he isn’t that great a prospect. That should also mean that the Braves shouldn’t expect to get all that much.

More important, the Twins have until after the Braves exhibition games to work something out. With the Twins in Atlanta, look for them to sit down and get something done.

by roger13 on Mar 27, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Diamond

With Diamond, wouldn’t any team signing him off of waivers also have to commit to keeping him in the majors for a full year? Considering that he hasn’t pitched in a major league game for two and a half weeks, that’s be a huge risk for any team, especially one that hasn’t been scouting him… I’m not surprised that he passed through.

by gbg on Mar 27, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

They also would be on the hook for the $50,000. He passed through waivers, so no team was willing to make that commitment.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 27, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waivers

Where are you reading that he passed through waivers?

by missles on Mar 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a nice team. I'll take it.

I really like the lineup. I’m totally buying Nishi. I love that between Mauer, Morneau, Thome, Young, Cuddyer, Kubel, you’re pretty much assured a meaty heart of the order every night, and I like the guys who surround them. Give me health and I’ll take whatever comes with it.

Less than a week folks!

by Luke in MN on Mar 27, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Looks a lot like the 2010 MN Twins.

The returning 2010 AL Central Champions, MN Twins.

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Mar 27, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this infield!

Casilla is a little…uhm…looser than Hardy, but he will be quicker on his feet meaning he should get to more balls…not a wash but not too big of a drop-off (with fingers crossed). I like that fact that we have a starting 3rd baseman, instead of, “OK, you played two games in a row, now it’s LNP’s turn and then Tolbert before you can get in another two games worth.” Getting rid of LNP actually resolves a multitude of problems—on offense and on DEFENSE! (Consistency at a position counts for a lot in my book.) Mr. Westhill (Nishioka) will be fine if he gets the necessary support from the team. Japanese players need to be supported just like other overseas players whose native language is not English. It seems like the Twins understand this well. From a baseball perspective, he will play fundamentally sound baseball and do whatever the coaches ask of him. He is probably an outstanding bunter since Japanese players learn bunting skills when they are two years old. Morneau will be fine if he doesn’t get hit in the head by a flying wombat or something.

I like AdamOnFirst feel that the injury bug is the greatest thing to be feared.

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by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Mar 28, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Carlos Silva

For those worried about starting pitching, we can Carlos Silva back for a lifetime supply of Big Macs and free refills on sodas (something not to be taken lightly in Japan).

"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. See, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it . . ."

by Skippy tastes better than Jiff on Mar 28, 2011 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

At the risk of starting another long thread...

Would you rather have Silva or Eric Hacker? I actually think it’s kinda close.

by timprov on Mar 28, 2011 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva's a head case

And he’s really not very good. He had one hot streak in the last five years, in which he somehow developed a good slider. Otherwise, he’s been horrible. No thanks.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Mar 28, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yah for all the blackburn haters in the house

Silva is the washed up version of Blackburn. Can’t believe he got the contract he did from the mariners.

Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?

by halfchest on Mar 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, he was actually a quite good MLB starter for over 100 innings last year.

That’s something that can be said about almost no other player as freely available as Silva.

by Luke in MN on Mar 29, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, No Thanks

As you should know. The Twins don’t like players that have terrible attitudes. Plus, Silva sucks!!!!!

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