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Angels 6, Twins 5: Seriously?

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. This is simply ridiculous, as Alex Burnett, Dusty Hughes and Jim Hoey managed to blow a FIVE RUN LEAD in the eighth inning last night at Target Field, with the Angels ultimately coming back to win the game 6-5. As Twins fans, we can't expect pitchers like Burnett, Hughes and Hoey to be shutdown guys, but at the very least it seems an ERA under 45.00 should be expected. Then again, while it didn't seem to make much of a difference at the time, Twins base runners managed to run the offense out of at least two runs, but more on that later.

Alexi Casilla started the scoring in the bottom of the first with a line drive to left center field that Angels center fielder Peter Bourjos failed a diving catch, the ball rolled to the wall, and Denard Span (who walked) scored from second base. Unfortunately, even when Casilla does something right he manages a fail, as he missed first base and had to circle back before advancing only to second base. If he is on third base, he scores on Jason Kubel's ground ball and it's a two run lead. Instead, Justin Morneau (pop out) and Michael Cuddyer (line out) ended the inning without scoring Casilla. In the third inning, Casilla smashed a ball off the base of the right field wall, and Kubel scored him with a single to put the Twins up 2-0. In the fifth, Kubel hit a two run single to extend the lead to four. But after a Morneau single to load the bases, Cuddyer hit an apparent sacrifice fly to right center field, which Kubel inexplicably watched, thought was falling in for a hit, and was doubled off second to end the inning.

Absent the base running gaffes, at this point it should be a 6-0 lead, one that extended to seven runs after Justin Morneau's run scoring single in the 7th inning. The way Twins starter Scott Baker was pitching, it didn't look like a 5-0 or 7-0 lead was going to matter, as he was in command all night, pitching seven scoreless innings and giving up six hits and striking out 6 with no walks. Unfortunately, Baker had 106 pitches through seven innings, so it was off to the bullpen to mop it up. The inning started ominously, as Peter Bourjos led off with a one hopper to Morneau, who bobbled before flipping to Alex Burnett, who was late getting to the first base bag. Granted, Bourjos can fly, but it was yet another mental error for the Twins, one that would come back to haunt. Burnett was pulled after walking Maicer Izturis, in favor of Dusty Hughes. It took only one pitch, a 90-MPH fastball right down main street, for Erick Aybar to smash a three run home run and cut the lead to 5-3. Bobby Abreu grounded a ball just out of the reach of a diving Cuddyer, and it was shower time for Hughes as well.

At this point, with only a two run lead, one might expect to see Joe Nathan. But Nathan was apparently not available tonight, because Jim Hoey came in. Hoey battled Torii Hunter, but ultimately lost as Hunter doubled off the right field and Alberto Callaspo singled in a run, still zero outs. Russell Branyan tied the game with a sacrifice fly, and the comeback was complete. In the end, it took a nice play by Casilla to end the inning without additional damage. In the top of the ninth, Hoey stayed on in relief, and Bourjos led off with a triple and scored one batter later to put the Angels up 6-5. The Twins made a feeble comeback attempt at a two out rally in the ninth, but Delmon Young ended the game with a weak fly ball to right center field.

All in all, this was perhaps the most disappointing loss of the season for the Twins, as the bullpen is simply that ugly right now. Not sure where to go from here, but studs, duds and notes are after the jump.

Star-divide

Studs

  1. Alexi Casilla: 3-4, 2 R, RBI. As bad as Alexi has been this season, it's nice to see him heating up. He's 8 for his last 13, and has raised his batting average from .188 to .234 over the past four games. And he had a couple nice defensive plays at shortstop.
  2. Scott Baker: 7 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 6 SO, 0 BB. Baker had his good stuff last night, his fastball had good movement and he was all over the low outside corner all night.
  3. Jason Kubel: 2-5, 3 RBI. Even with the base running fail, I have to give "stud" status to someone driving in three runs.

Duds

  1. Dusty Hughes: 0 IP, 2H, 2R, HR. How is he still on the roster? It's time we designate Mr. Hughes and bring up someone like Kyle Waldrop, who may actually have a future with this team.
  2. Alex Burnett: 0 IP, H, BB, 2R. First, the mental error late getting to first base, then the walk. But while hindsight may be 20-20, why not stick with him for another batter?
  3. Jim Hoey: 1.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R. He was the best of the three in the 8th, and that's not saying much.
  4. Ron Gardenhire: For pulling Jim Thome out of the game for Trevor Plouffe pinch running at first in the 7th. Of course, Plouffe ended up batting with a runner on first and two out in the bottom of the ninth. How many times do we need to see this happen?
  5. Base running: Left another couple runs out there tonight.
  6. Delmon Young: 0-5, SO. He's now batting .206, was chasing everything in sight.  

Notes

  • Baker actually executed a run down last night, freezing Torii Hunter off third base after a come backer to the mound. He ran right at Hunter, then forced him back to third base. One throw, one out. Just the way it's supposed to be done.
  • Peter Bourjos is crazy athletic. He robbed Jim Thome of his 593rd home run in the sixth, leaping at the wall and getting the ball right off the top of the fence.
  • Baker's strikeout of Bobby Abreu in the third inning was a thing of beauty. All over the low and outside corner, as good a hitter as Abreu is, he didn't have a chance. 
  • It wouldn't have made a difference, but Casilla was jogging home on the Cuddyer sacrifice fly when Kubel was doubled off second. It looked like he saw Kubel was going to be doubled off, and he jogged as a result, but in that situation if he scores before the out at second the run counts.

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Hughes

Is on the roster because Bill Smith apparently enjoys Gardy showing him up.
Gardy has been asking for other guys like Gutierrez but Smith is telling him no.

by clutterheart on May 28, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Gardy
Ron Gardenhire: For pulling Jim Thome out of the game for Trevor Plouffe pinch running at first in the 7th. Of course, Plouffe ended up batting with a runner on first and two out in the bottom of the ninth. How many times do we need to see this happen?

Seriously. Gardy won’t be happy until until I commit hari kari as a result of this. Why does Gardy hate me?

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

by SteadyDietOfCheese on May 28, 2011 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Really think this is one of those 20/20 hindsight moves

You’re winning, the guy is 40 years old and slow, why risk injury?

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on May 28, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, hindsight is 20/20

and perhaps he tweaked something. But this has happened so many times this season, and I don’t recall the pinch runner ever making a difference. But Casilla at the plate in the 9th or extra innings always seems to hurt us.

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thome was pulled because of a sore shoulder.

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"Wow!!!!! Epic collapse unfolding!!!" -Danny Valencia

by less cowbell, more 'neau on May 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dud: Kevin Slowey

If he wasn’t such an anti-mainstream jerk Hoey wouldn’t be up here.

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on May 28, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Dud: Bill Smith

If he knew how to manage a roster, Hoey wouldn’t be up here.

by Stefa on May 28, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by d-mac on May 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*sigh*

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by John Veldhuis on May 28, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

The bullpen wasn't all bad

Dumatrait came in and stopped the bleeding. Too little, too late, but the guy still deserves some credit.

by Stefa on May 28, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Fair enough

I hereby give Dumatrait credit for stopping the bleeding. Then again, maybe the Angels were simply tired from running around the bases…

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost had to laugh

With Gameday on the computer and a safe lead, I retired to the next room to watch a program with my wife. I guess when the game ends, Gameday automatically plays the highlights. So from the next room I suddenly here a play-by-play guy saying “and the Angels come all the way back.”

Wish the box score read
Baker
Guerrier
Crain
Nathan

by Han Joelo on May 28, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Nathan was not available due to a sore elbow.

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"Wow!!!!! Epic collapse unfolding!!!" -Danny Valencia

by less cowbell, more 'neau on May 28, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nathan now on DL

Thome got a cortisone shot and could play tomorrow.
Liriano says he’s had a sore shoulder for past 10 day but will pitch his next start.
Mijares could be back Monday.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Wow!!!!! Epic collapse unfolding!!!" -Danny Valencia

by less cowbell, more 'neau on May 28, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure sounds like everyone is finding a reason to not take the field

come guys heal up and get back out there, it’s going to take everyone to reach .500

abandon all hope, ye who cheer here!
we have found the 10th circle of hell – bullpen losses

by caluofmn on May 28, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

- Crain

Though I admit I would almost (ALMOST) be ok with having good ’ol Crainwreck back.

JIM JAMS BUSINESS IS MASHING TATERS, AND BUSINESS IS GOOD!!!

by MashinTaters on May 28, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Questions for those who watched/listened to most of th game

I didn’t start watching the game until the bottom of the 7th inning, and promptly shut the game off after the Twins failed to score in the bottom of the 8th. I definitely feel like my bad luck jinxed the Twins last night. I apologize to everyone.

 I had a couple of questions that I haven’t heard or read any answer for yet today.

a) Was any reason given for why Cuddyer wasn’t replaced by Tolbert as a defensive replacement in the later innings last night? It seems like if they were willing to pinch run for Thome, a defensive replacement for Cuddyer would also make sense. I just felt that Tolbert (or maybe Casilla moved to second) would have made the play that Cuddyer booted, and possibly made an out on the second ball that cuddyer dived for.

b) Was a reason given why Capps didn’t pitch the top of the 9th?

Also, is there any evidence that Hughes, Hoey and Burnett are having a competition to see who will end the season with the highest ERA?

by markos on May 28, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Gardy was saving Capps for a save situation

because of his sore forearm they are trying not to overuse him.

by Stefa on May 28, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand this

not to mention there was a good chance of the game going extra innings. With Nathan out and Burnett/Hughes/Hoey already burned up, by that point Gardy almost had to keep Hoey out there.

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can it get any worse?

I can only hope we look back on this game as the low point in the season.

richman

by anderson800 on May 28, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope you're right.

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Wow!!!!! Epic collapse unfolding!!!" -Danny Valencia

by less cowbell, more 'neau on May 28, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

but I remember saying that a couple weeks ago…and a couple weeks before that…

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll Say It Again....Twins Scouting and Drafting

The Angels Friday night had a 21 year old starter and a 23 year old closer who throws 100 MPH. Why are the Twins not getting contributions at the “Major League Level”©
from younger players from the farm system like other teams are?
Keep in mind the Twins AAA team was 49-95 last year and the AA team was 44-98.
It should’nt be a surprise to anyone that there isn’t any pitching help from the farm system.
The RED FLAG was waving for all to see last year.

by rancher33 on May 28, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I think this is a key

we went into this season thinking the bullpen could be reconstructed from our minor leagues…but Rochester and New Britain stunk on ice. Then again, a big part of the gamble was that Neshek could contribute (hindsight, perhaps we cut him too early), and Nathan would come back and pitch well.

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But apparently everyone else found out last night

I’m slow.

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by myjah on May 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

You weren't the only one

Swarzak starting? This could get ugly.

by Han Joelo on May 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Slowey?

Oh, wait…

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on May 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

More injuries

SO why are the Twins not looking to their trainers and medical staff and asking the question “who needs to find a new job?”

Answer: Because the organization as a whole has already mailed in the season, and the management is going to need a scapegoat at the end of the season.

A side note: Many of the people on this very board were screaming for the organization to trade Kubel last season……….still looking for that to happen now?

by Sixmark on May 28, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't read the game thread

It’s too depressing. What an awful, awful loss. Utterly depressing. Unfathomable. And downright embarrassing!!

The beard abides.

by Jason Kubel's Beard on May 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Baker's rundown...FAIL

Really, you think Scott Baker’s rundown of Torii Hunter was correct? Other than charging at him, it was almost a disaster.

1. He ran with the ball at his waist.
RONG!
You’re supposed to run with the ball face high, wrist back, ready to flip or tag.
2. He ran directly at Hunter.
RONG!
You’re supposed to run at the next-base side of the runner, cutting him off so he has no choice but to go back.
3. When Hunter broke for 3rd, Baker almost broke his ankle turning right.
RONG!
This was a function of carrying the ball too low, being off balance and falling for Hunter’s “I give up” trick. None of those things should ever happen.
4. When Baker finally tossed the ball, it was underhand.
ROOOOONNNNGG!
On a rundown you NEVER toss the ball underhand! You want to hit the runner? You want the ball to go over your teammate’s head? You want to cause a collision with the runner? As earlier, the ball is supposed to be face high, wrist back. You push-throw the ball OVERHAND to your teammate, sticking your two throwing fingers in his eyes, as per Dick Seibert’s baseball bible. This method NEVER FAILS.

Sometimes players get away with crappy form. Sometimes they even avoid injury. Baker was lucky he didn’t break his ankle and toss the ball over Valencia’s head. Another stupid and avoidable error waiting to happen.

by jimbo55403 on May 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

He said nothing about his FORM

So let’s back off the “baseball bible” a little bit, pitchers don’t exactly spend a whole lot of time executing that play. Position players do, thus it becomes second nature for them. Chances are that Baker won’t see that scenario again the rest of the season.

by Sixmark on May 28, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crappy form, yes

but Baker got the out, he wasn’t lucky to get it, he forced Hunter back to third, and it only took one throw.

After what we’ve seen this year, I consider it to be a success. But I agree, it could have gone wrong.

by Adam Peterson on May 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Jimbo is right on the mark. Scott Baker is lucky that he didn’t break his ankle. Rundowns should be second nature for any pitcher. He should be involved in rundown drills during spring training.

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by Jessy S on May 28, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't it time we start the FIREBILLSMITH.Com?

Regardless of whether it would result in any action. We could show our displeasurement with his job. This bullpen is a joke, there are guys in Rochester that could help. But we won’t know until changes are made. This year we’ve turned into the Kansas City Royals with the management of the club. Just a f*cking joke…
EOM
Brian

by MagikLair on May 28, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree completely.

Anyone stupid enough to bring that idiot Hoey back up needs to be fired and confined to a mental institution.

by joekawasaki on May 28, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Want to start it for us?

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by d-mac on May 28, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Overreaction......hardly

Bill Smith is responsible for the training staff who is in turn responsible for keeping the players healthy= FAIL

Bill Smith is responsible for giving us some depth in our farm system in the pitching department= FAIL

Bill Smith is responsible for giving us a viable backup and possible replacement for Joe Mauer given his obvious inability to stay at catcher much longer= FAIL

Just because Bill Smith signed Joe Mauer long term does not grant him a mulligan for every other aspect of his job……..FYI Mauer wasn’t going to sign anywhere else anyhow, so it’s not some big accomplishement..

by Sixmark on May 28, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Smith is not a Baseball guy

He is an accountant who works for a baseball team.
He is not able to judge talent himself so he has to listen to all parties and guess on who is right. If he goes down and watches James, he has no idea if he is good or bad. He has to ask other people.
He does not know enough about scouting to read / hear reports and make a choice.

So that means we have player development / roster management by committee and that makes for a rudderless ship at the top.

by clutterheart on May 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

If HR's not a "baseball guy" and a bean counter,

Why is he not more open to the “moneyball” style of managing and greater use of stastical analysis. THAT is a red flag. He doesn’t know enough about baseball to make his own decisions on talent and refuses to, at the very least, use any alternate methods for talent evaluation.

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by d-mac on May 28, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If Bill Smith is not*

I have know idea how HR’s came from Bill Smith is. That’s what I get for post from my phone. Damn auto-correct.

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by d-mac on May 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's possible that...

…it’s the rest of the organization that isn’t. The Twins seemed to have held VERY traditional views about that. Moreover, it’s not like other big money teams don’t evaluate using SABR as well as older metrics so it’s not like there’s people out that he can steal for cheap as easily as the early Oakland teams.

by MNPundit on May 28, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Every team but us seem to be usin’ them “new fangled” methods a’ countin’. Look the market has long since left us in the dust. We are getting left behind. This team is a shit storm of perfectly timed payroll constraints, injuries/bad health, shitty performances (by players AND coaches), bare cupboards in the upper minors, AND a front office stuck in an outdated and inefficient method of talent evaluation.

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by d-mac on May 29, 2011 2:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

New Twins drinking game

start drinking when Gardy makes the call to the pen…

by caluofmn on May 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

better than your mind

abandon all hope, ye who cheer here!
we have found the 10th circle of hell – bullpen losses

by caluofmn on May 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

"New"?

"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez

by myjah on May 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

abandon all hope, ye who cheer here!
we have found the 10th circle of hell – bullpen losses

by caluofmn on May 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point

not just Smith and Gardy are to blame, but the whole team. Span and Kubel are the only two guys (Perk) I’d sign to be back next year. It would be easy to say Delmon sucks, Danny isn’t hitting, Justin is no threat, Cuddyer is Cuddyer. Butters=AAA, Hoey,Burnett,Hughes all suck. Did I miss anyone? Oh yah, the idea that Casilla could be an everyday SS and everyday Joe has become Joe 6-pack.

by b1 on May 28, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't blame guys who belong in AAA

for failing at the MLB level. That just isn’t fair. I may give a big sigh when Dusty Hughes takes the mound or Drew Butera steps up to the plate in a close game, but I don’t blame them when they fail.

I also don’t blame players for their slumps and occasional mistakes. Even the best players have their bad stretches at the plate or on the mound and make their share of mistakes in the field. As painful as it is to watch this team sometimes, I’m not sure what more the players can do. Things I criticize players for would be: not keeping themselves in shape, dogging it in the field or on the bases, being bad teammates or unsportsman-like conduct. Everything else is just part of the game.

by Stefa on May 28, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAA?

That’s generous . . .

by twinsbrewer on May 28, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start over

No matter who actually comes back off the DL this team is the absolute worst Twins team I’ve seen in the 47 years I’ve followed them. No drive, no skill, no personality, no anything! They need to blow it up and start again. At least in 1999 and 1982 you could see the Twins had a future with their developing young players. This year…no developing young players. The farm teams are worse than the parent team so where is the hope? You can’t throw money at this problem. The Twins need to start over and do it quickly. Trade off the assets for young, hungry, exciting players that are open to coaching and show a willingness to play hard for the fans that support them and take pride in their performance. The GM, Manager and coaches may not be the total problem. You can’t win if the players are more concerned about “protecting” their body than actually playing hard and winning some games. It’s a physical sport like all pro sports. They all make plenty of money to pay a doctor for the aches and pains they may have after their careers are over. When your 15 games out by Memorial Day you’re done for the year! You want real baseball then go to the sand lot and watch the kids in a pick up game. THAT is baseball!

Life begins on opening day

by S L on May 28, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Bobby Abreu grounded a ball just out of the reach of a diving Cuddyer, and it was shower time for Hughes as well.

Was this a joke, a la “past a diving Jeter”, perhaps a product of the gamethread or something? I just watched the top of the eighth on demand and that was a pretty blatant error on Cuddyer, official scoring notwithstanding. You can’t (well, “shouldn’t”, anyway) seriously give a guy a hit because the fielder had to take a few to his right steps and (HORRORS!) play a groundball with his backhand. There was certainly nothing resembling a “dive”. Any other MLB second baseman makes that play.

(There was a full on dive fail by Cuddyer on a different play, maybe the Abreu “hit” was confused with that?)

by tobynotjason on May 28, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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