Saturday Morning Breakfast & Baseball: Jose Mijares vs Joe Mauer
After the game last night there was some very interesting banter tossed back and forth between Jose Mijares and Joe Mauer, all because of what happened in the game-changing at-bat of the seventh inning. With runners on the corners, two out, and the Twins leading 3-2, Prince Fielder ripped a 3-2 fastball into the right field corner for a two-run double that would give the game its final score.
What happened in that plate appearance seemed to kick off a little controversy. Mijares, who was in to face Fielder in relief of Scott Baker, missed on his first three pitches before working the count full, but he didn't like Mauer's pitch selection:
"I don't know what's going on with Mauer," Mijares said. "He never put down a sign for breaking ball. Never. It was fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball."
Yet Mijares pumped that 3-2 fastball right down the heart of the plate.
"Called for a fastball there," Mauer said. "I didn't call for it down the middle."
This screen shot, courtesy of Parker Hageman, illustrates this point perfectly.

More after the jump.
In Mauer's called location, either Fielder walks, makes weak contact to induce out number three, or needs to get lucky for a hit. Missing over the middle of the plate, Mijares opened the door and invited the vampire inside. So to speak.
Why did Mauer call six consecutive fastballs? It's hard for me to say. It could be because Mauer just wanted Mijares to throw strikes early in the count, then needed him to at least try and get the out, and finally was looking to give Fielder something enticing but just off the plate. Maybe because, with the tying run on third, Mauer didn't want to chance a wild pitch or passed ball on an errant slider. After all, Mijares has had next to zero command all season, and this plate appearance was a shining example of that.
Mijares could have shaken Mauer off, but he didn't. Give him credit for trusting his catcher, but if he's going to trust his catcher then why call him out in the post-game? Trust the catcher, of course, but Mijares is a professional ballplayer, too. And he's the pitcher. If he isn't comfortable with six straight fastballs, or feels like his slider would work, then he needs to communicate that. And not in the post-game press conference.
I've seen people predicting that this would be Mijares' ticket out of Minnesota. While I generally agree with Jim Crikket in that both players need to take part of the blame for how that plate appearance with Fielder was handled, Mijares should have kept his mouth shut. But does he need to be sent down?
Strikeouts are way down while walks are through the roof. He's one of the worse relievers pitchers in baseball at stranding base runners. Line drives and quality contact are up. Velocity is down. Batters are chasing fewer pitches outside of the strike zone.
I've been a defender of Mijares here in the past. But I'm undecided on whether or not he should be sent down, although I do have a belief that Chuck James could come in and perform at least as well as Mijares (who owns a 4.15 ERA, but a 4.57 FIP and 6.08 xFIP).
But he shouldn't be sent down because he called out Mauer. It was inappropriate, and it shouldn't happen, but it's good to see that players aren't afraid to call out their teammates no matter who they are. Players always need to be free to challenge each other from time to time. It just needs to happen behind closed doors.
Now we wait. Will there be any fallout?
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[EDIT] This has already been mentioned in the comments, but it's worth pointing out. Gardy also said this, per the link above:
We damn sure don't want Prince to beat us, and he did.
If you didn't want Prince to beat you, why did you even pitch to him? There was a base open, and Casey McGehee was coming up. McGehee is hitting .230/.284/.322 this season, and is terrible against both righties and lefties.
So we ask again: why even pitch to him?
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I guess no fallout
Based on Gardy’s quote he seems to be backing Mijares:
“A leffthander’s gotta come in and hopefully spin some pitches. If you just throw fastballs — I could leave a righthander in to throw fastballs. That’s the way I look at it.”
by clutterheart on Jun 25, 2011 8:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mijares needs to actually get ahead in the count to start using breaking balls.
When you fall behind 2-0, 3-0, 3-1, you don’t really have much of a choice.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 25, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
DicknBert said something about the pitch selection as well.
Then when I saw the replay, I saw the same thing the picture shows. Jose is a big boy; if he wanted a different pitch, he could’ve thrown something else. Whether it was the right pitch to throw or not, ultimately it is Jose’s decision since he’s the one doing the tossing.
He’s an emotional guy (if screaming obscenities at the top of your lungs when losing the handle on a pitch qualifies as emotional). I’m certain he’s really frustrated. That being said, he threw a thigh-high fastball on the inside half. I was just in complete shock that Fielder didn’t put it in the stands.
Bottom line is that he didn’t execute, and hasn’t for a while. My opinion is that he should be sent down. Reason one: He’s not getting it done. He needs to chill out and get it together. Reason two: Calling out a teammate (any teammate) when you’re clearly the problem is bullshit. If he had a problem, he should have talked to him in private.
That’s my take, anyways.
by fastfred on Jun 25, 2011 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Drama should stay in clubhouse
Should Mauer have been calling for fastballs? Maybe not.
Should Mijares have shaken him off? Probably.
Should Mijares have brought it up in a post game press conference? NO.
Drama like this needs to stay in the clubhouse. The Twins have enough stuff to battle through this season, they don’t need unnecessary drama being leaked to the press.
*Megz*
by Twinsbsballgirl on Jun 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
Can Mijares throw a breaking ball for a strike?
Maybe Mauer kept calling for a fastball because Gardy told him Mijares can’t throw strikes with anything else.
Gardy also said he was waiting for a breaking ball,
even on 3-2. Although I’d agree: Mijares can barely throw a strike with a fastball, how are we supposed to trust him with a slider and a runner on third?
I still think it was an obvious IBB situation.
by Jesse on Jun 25, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How?
How would Mauer know at this point what Mijares can do, and what is working for him?
Mijares clearly can't do anything right.
At least, in terms of throwing strikes.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 25, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
why even pitch to prince?
I don’t give two rips what pitches were called. It’s totally irrelevant to me and it should be to everyone else. Mijares doesn’t decide who gets intentionally walked or not. That would be on the manager. Someone tell me, in simpleton terms because evidently I am a 13yr old twins fan why you pitch to Prince Friggin Fielder in that spot? Prince Fielder, the best r.b.i. guy in baseball, the only bat in that lineup that you absolutely cannot let beat you. The great comedy of the situation is that if there were runners on SECOND & 3rd, and not runners on 1st & 3rd, that Gardenhire in his infinite genius would have most certainly walked Fielder to pitch to the .230 hitting Casey McGehee. Never mind that a walk with a guy on 1st/3rd OR 2nd/3rd creates the same bases loaded scenario. during our win streak gardy gave the pitchers confidence by keeping em in.baker could of walked prince and pitched to maghee. we won cause we never seen our crappy bullpen till at least the 8th. why change now?
by tctwin on Jun 25, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Well said.
Though in the area of 13yr old Twins fans, I believe twinsgirl197 may take offense to this. :)
Your point, though, is spot on, really.
I was just thinking that
Seriously she would be happy overjoyed that she is older than another member of this blog.
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Very true.
Gardy takes the brunt of the blame on this one.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 25, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As bad as Mijares has been
He still has been better against LH batters, and my memory says Gardy doesn’t intentionally walk many hitters.
by clutterheart on Jun 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent Point
When Jose Mijares came into the game, my first thought was that we lost. This pitcher has no business pitching to a batter like Prince Fielder. Didn’t they activate Joe Nathan before the game? If so, if you must use your bullpen to pitch to a player like Fielder, I would have brought in Joe Nathan. This was a high leverage situation and since he was available, I would have used him. Glen Perkins can pitch the 8th and Matt Capps the 9th for the save. The picture that Jesse posted tells the story and it is clear that Joe Mauer wanted it toward the outside, Mijares threw it down the middle, but Nathan woudn’t have been in this position. Fielder could have grounded into a force-out to end the inning.
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Actually, the picture shows the contrast between where the pitch crosses the front plane of the plate and where Mauer’s glove is, at an angle no less. What’s the story?
You have a point
the picture makes the pitch look way further in than it was. However, it was still left up and caught far too much of the plate.
ack!
nevermind. The pitch is inside. Stupid umpire view messing with my brain again. No more posting after 10 hour shifts. That’s a terrible pitch.
FWIW, FIelder has been taking outside pitches oppo pretty well this year, so I don’t think he’d have to get lucky to get a hit – that is if the pitch was reachable.
If it was reachable, Fielder would have grounded into a force out.
That was likely Gardy’s plan all along and Mauer was following his instructions, Mijares has not following along and cost the Twins the game.
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Where's Anthony?
Seriously, we keep trotting out these guys out of the bullpen, and none of them can get the job done. Slama who’se got CONTROL is wasting away again in Rochesterville, waiting for his call to the show.
SLAMA TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE
Chuck James
I’d say Chuck James is better right now than Mijares or Dumatrait but they’re playing roster management right now to avoid losing Dumatrait.
In that situation
you’d go with a lefty, not a righty. Though I agree, I was little confused when Slama was sent down. But perhaps James or Dumatrait is going to be the answer here soon.
Pitch around him
I can see pitching to him because you don’t want to automatically push the tying run into scoring position. Unfortunately mijares doesn’t have the command to pitch delicately to someone like fielder
Yeah I dont get it.
I don’t care who’s actually to blame- there’s plenty to go around. But you don’t call out another player in the post game. You just don’t.
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by John Veldhuis on Jun 25, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wasn't Mauer supposed to be this great pitch caller?
That’s what Ivan Rodriguez used to do with men on base . . . just put down “1” every friggin’ time. “Duds” for Mauer, Mijares, and Gardy on this . . . oh, wait, I forgot all the hitters who managed one run off Randy “89 MPH” Wolf.
Steve Goodman lives.
Look at the picture of the pitch in question
Joe Mauer called for a pitch to the outside, but Mijares threw it right down the middle.
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Grow a pair
Mijares needs to grow a pair and stop whining like a 3 year old and take responsibility for his crappy pitching rather than blaming others. His control is non-existent this year. Maybe if he hadn’t started off 3-0, Joe would have called other pitches. Who knows, but I agree with everyone else, this should have been handled in the clubhouse, not in the media.
by puddles87 on Jun 25, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I really hope Reyes Jr. never sees the big league team again.
Unless he magically finds the strikezone.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I have a complaint.
There's so much biased journalism in the photography.
We see Mauer doing something heroic, then Mijares doing something wrong. Way to take sides like that, Jesse. Couldn’t you have shown Mijares being a hero, like when he downed the Monster Bacon Cheeseburger of Al’s Bar in Mankato, MN, in under :45?
Jeez.
Where is this Al's Place?
I am hungry.
-Mike, in Mankato
(not real, sorry)
just picked an MN city and a generic bar name.
If you do want a good burger, I’ve had a couple friends who go there rave about Guenther’s Cafe. But I don’t know much else about it.
Seriously
I was thinking that Mijares was somewhat overweight. Seriously, If you do want a Monster Bacon Cheeseburger, go to Hardees. BTW, I don’t eat sandwiches with a lot of bacon, and other stuff. They are designed to induce heart attacks.
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I do eat fast food,
But I am smart to know that much of the new stuff that resturants put out, may lead to health problems sooner rather than later.
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Its not Mauer's Fault
His timing and batting eye is so bad right now he thought Mijares was throwing 97 mph.
give him time
Mauer helped Mijares get back into the full-count situation in the first place by calling those fastballs
and all he needed Mijares to do was to pitch right where his glove was at, and he missed it…plain and simple.
Should he have pitched to him in the first place? Who knows, but it most definitely wasn’t Mauer’s fault.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
I would say no
But I understand that Gardy was going for the forceout at second and he had a better choice in the bullpen in Joe Nathan.
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I was at the game and was baffled that we took out Baker.
Baker is a great pitcher. Let him work out of trouble. He wasn’t walking on fumes. If your going to pitch to prince, forget matchups and splits and just keep out your best pitcher.
by Coolio12 on Jun 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah,
Does Gardy have something on the Twins losing games this year? Mijares should have never made the team out of spring training. We know what he can do from last season.
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He pitched OK last year
Not lights out or anything after the closer and primary setup man, bullpens are often a bit sketchy.
That’s the problem with mediocre relievers. Trouble is knowing whether the rough patch is temporary or if he’s just cooked and then finding someone better.
The solution is simple.....
Don’t let the bullpen pitch………and have Cuddyer bat in all 9 batting slots.
why
so he can chase down and away even more?
by tuckingfenpin on Jun 26, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions

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