The Blame Game
As I sat in my seat last night at Target Field during last night's pounding, I unwillingly listened to a fan in my section berating the Twins. He went on and on about how they are a bunch of overpaid babies who don't try hard enough. This morning, I woke up to a local radio personality griping about how Mauer and his contract are "a distraction" in the clubhouse causing the Twins to lose focus. Then when I arrived at work today, a coworker stopped by my desk because he felt the need to adamantly express how he thinks the Twins players are faking injuries and that Ron Gardenhire should be fired.
Sadly, this kind of resentment has become more and more commonplace in 2011. For some unknown reason, fans and some members of the media actually seem to get personally offended when their team of choice is not doing well. I don't get it. Maybe it's just me, but when I hear someone ranting irrationally about a sports team's poor performance, it just reminds me of a toddler throwing a temper tantrum because he doesn't want to put away his toys. It's immature, and it makes me enjoy baseball less because of it.
Am I any less of a die hard Twins fan because I don't hold some personal vendetta against any member of the Twins organization for the team being in last place? Should I be there with the rest of them looking for a Mauer-shaped skapegoat to crucify for causing the team to lose? Why do people feel the need to point fingers and blame someone when things don't go as they want them to?
We're not talking about who should have made the decision to evacuate a city before an impending flood. This isn't life and death here. This is baseball. It's a sport; a recreational passtime we follow for entertainment purposes. Nothing more. No matter how closely I follow the Twins and how hard I root for them to win, I'm not going to post a comment on the Strib site saying that the Twins don't deserve to have their new ballpark "because they suck." I'm not going to go on any profanity-laced tirade about how the players are a bunch of millionaire panzies. I'm not going to riot in the streets because my team didn't win Game 7.
Baseball (and any sport, really) is effected by luck. Sometimes things work out and everything is awesome. Sometimes things go wrong and it's difficult to watch. You endure the hard times so that the good times are that much sweeter. Choosing to become bitter just robs you of any enjoyment you might get from this sport that you supposedly care about. It's pointless; negativity just feeding negativity.
If you're going to argue that Mauer's contract was too expensive or that Bill Smith should initiate a fire sale or that Gardy should have a more consistent batting order game-to-game, then do so like an intelligent adult. I realize that I'm preaching to the choir by posting this here, but I'm just fed up. All this angry meathead rhetoric is making me like being a Twins fan less because I'm lumped in with this crap by association.
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Agreed
I think it is just hard to deal with because the expectations were so out of line with performance. Partly justified because, well, the Twins typically outperform expectations and partly not, because, let’s be serious, we all knew this team had some big holes this season. It’s hard to go into a season expecting to contend and then see your team just fall apart in every possible way. Sigh. But there’s always next season…and now that we look like sellers, there will be lots of hot stove action as well!
I don't mind getting upset about dumb decisions
I get frustrated when the team makes bad moves (JJ Hardy for minor league relievers) and it hurts their chance to win. I even express that frustration here. I don’t understand people who need to invent their own reality (faked injuries, clubhouse cancers, lack of machismo, etc) to explain what is actually simple if you just pay attention.
I also don’t understand baseball fans (or sports fans in general) who can’t handle losing. Why in the world would you pay lots of attention to sports if you get angry when the team loses? You have to fool yourself to think your team is going to win, the odds are stacked against your favorite team every single year.
For almost every team
The odds aren’t that bad, as long as you have a good head coach or manager and a good general manager. The Twins don’t have that winning combo.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
Yes the last decade has just been good luck
I’d argue that they do have that combo in some respect since the Twins have been one of the most consistently good teams for the last decade. You can argue against Bill Smith I suppose and give the credit to Terry Ryan but even so it’s hard to ultimately argue against Gardy seeing what he’s done most years while having teams with holes.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Ultimately, it does come down to playoff performance
And we could give Gardy a pass based on his history, but the current pitching and hitting coaches and the GM all have to go.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
Bill Smith had a terrific offseason last year
This year they outsmarted themselves.
1 team is left standing at the end
Almost every year you are going to be disappointed at the end.
Agreed
Gardy does deserve part of the blame for the Twins performance this season, but so do the players and Bill Smith. I get where some people may say that players are faking injuries, but if players were truly faking injuries, they would get found out by the medical staff. Faking a broken leg isn’t as simple as faking sick so one doesn’t have to go to school. I never really faked sick, but some of you might know what I am talking about. My point is this losing is reaching a turning point. Blowout losses could do that to you, and a 15-0 loss could hurt Gardy and Bill Smith in the long run. At one point, Jim Polhad will have to make a decision and that decision is either stick with the status quo or have Rob Antony be the GM, Tom Kelly the interm General Manager, Jack Morris the pitching coach, and Paul Monitor the hitting coach. Hate to say it, but this blog is in the miantory.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
I wish Joe Mauer pain.
Not an injury or any real pain, but like a little cut on his lip or something. Like the kind you get in the winter from chapped lips, then you eat something spicy like chili or pizza with crushed red peppers on it, and it stings, but it stings in a way it feels kind of good. So every now and then you find yourself pressing it a little with you tongue, or gently biting it, just so you can get that sensation ‘cuz you kind of like that feeling, y’know? Then one day you wake up and it’s gone and you say you’re glad but really you kind of miss that little cut on your lip.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jun 28, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I had that pain before, and I really don't eat anything too spicy.
The Key Word is HOT!
That is the condition we want Joe Mauer’s bat to be in right now.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
This has been as frustrating a season as I can recall...
…and a season like this inevitably brings out the worst in many sports fans. You have Mauer’s bizarre injury, two months with almost no updates, him coming back completely ineffective at the plate, every injury taking twice as long to recover from as first estimated (seriously, Kubel has been day to day for like a month now), Morneau pretty much suffering though a lost season, and Thome’s quest for 600 in a Twins uniform, which seemed like a formality, much less certain. The team sleepwalked through two months but then, lo and behold, a 15-2 stretch and contention! Then, after scoring eight runs in the first inning of a roadtrip, they proceeded to score nine more runs TOTAL in the last 53 innings of said roadtrip. Now the Twins and their AAA lineup are back to looking as lost as ever.
My point? Yes, stupid, irrational fans are annoying, but, every team has them, and, I’ve never seen a team go through this much bad luck where injuries are concerned. In some ways, I think the ridiculous stretch of starting pitching that lead to 15-2 was a bad thing in the sense that it gave many fans a false sense that this could actually happen. With this lineup, it can’t.
Because the Gulfstream 5 has neither the airspeed nor the specs to adequately describe how fly I feel.
Right
“I think the ridiculous stretch of starting pitching that lead to 15-2 was a bad thing”
Winning is a bad thing. Got it. Check.
True
Losing is not everything, It is the only Thing.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
That came across completely wrong.
And I realize that after I posted it. All I was trying to convey is that it created a set of fan expectations that probably wasn’t ever realistic given the lineup the Twins are throwing out there, leading to the problem the TC is complaining about in his fanpost.
Winning is never a bad thing. Bad writing is.
Because the Gulfstream 5 has neither the airspeed nor the specs to adequately describe how fly I feel.
by DonnyDonovan on Jun 29, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you
“Winning is never a bad thing. Bad writing is.” Lord knows I’ve nevvvvvvvvvvver been guilty of that!
Good writeup - let me pile on
I’m also sick of fans complaining about Wilson Ramos, or JJ Hardy, or any trade that didn’t go our way. Beating those trades to death is as frustrating as the trades themselves. Enough already. It’s over. We know.
It’s like selling a stock at $40 and watching it go to $50. You can sit there and count the money you would have made, or you can learn from your decision and move on. Complaining about it has the same effect as beating your head against a brick wall: it won’t change the past and it makes your head hurt.
That is all.
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Jun 28, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Even if the Twins had Wilson Ramos and JJ Hardy all the injuries would have killed this team either way.
It’s just a perfect storm of crap this year. Poor trades mixed with injuries.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Don't forget LNP!
Damn you Bill Smith! J’accuse!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jun 28, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
True
It is hard to say how WAR we would have gained with Wilson Ramos at the plate instead of Drew Butera, STEVE HOLM!, and Rene Rivera, but it is possible to see at least a 37-40 record instead of 32-45 entering tonight’s game.
I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
They have had terrible years from their best paid players
Morneau, Mauer, Nathan, Delmon, Capps and Liriano have all underperformed.
OH GOD YES
I think the most annoying thing of all is hearing about JJ Hardy and Wilson Ramos. It’s done, it’s not going to be re-done. Let’s move on now, thanks.
"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez
Wait
I thought the Twins were trying to come in last so we can get a high draft pick each round in next year’s draft to stockpile our farm system…. I just figured that win streak was just so the team could say “see, we’re not tanking it.”
See, at least in this scenario in my head the Twins are wildly successful.
Very well put.
I realize that I’m preaching to the choir by posting this here
I actually disagree. There are definitely people on this site who do need to read this.
by Caleb A on Jun 28, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Very well written
Just one other tidbit I would like to add. I don’t know about anyone else, but I am getting tired of Gardy openly criticizing players to the public and media, and never placing the blame on himself. I thought that you win as a team, lose as a team. To me, Gardy has been acting as if certain players lose ballgames, not the team as a whole. And honestly, as a player, you think to yourself “oh, so I’m the ONLY player responsible for the loss? What about that other guy who went 0-fer with an error? It wasn’t his fault at all?”
by ScottyD4Life on Jun 28, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good point .....
There’s one time when you might be justified in “public criticism” – - – you’re dealing with ‘attitude’ issues, you’ve acted in good faith, done everything you can do and still, the player refuses to comply.
Even then, I’d be reluctant to “go public” unless the misconduct was also “public.”
Taking criticism of “physical performance error” mistakes public … while there may be scenarios where it’d be OK, none come to mind immediately.
Are you kidding me?
The FO made bad choices that bit them in the ass. Yet fans had expectations.
Then the team stunk and injuries highlighted those bad choices so fans bitched. Thats what fans do to a team that was expected to win. The alternative is apathy.
If the Twins were the perinial losers of the 90’s fans would expect this and just be glad they had a pro team to follow. But this is a team that won 94 games last year and its right for fans to bitch and moan.
That shows they give a damn and expect a certian brand of baseball. True folks go over the top but that is what happens in the age of the faceless internet.
by clutterheart on Jun 28, 2011 9:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
"True folks go over the top but that is what happens in the age of the faceless internet."
That’s true. People constantly trying to stir the pot. Some Twins fans who just get a little ridiculous with their rants and other could just be wSox fans. People certainly have a right to be upset and complain, especially with the FO, but when people start calling for the heads of….like….uh…..EVERYone? That just gets annoying as a fan to hear about that crap all the time. You can’t expect to fire someone every time there’s a bad season, especially when there’s a laundry list of reasons the team hasn’t played well. I thought I saw a post a while back, but i’d be interested to see how many different starting lineups the Twins have had this year.
Skol!
Twinsgeek had a post about it last week.
71 different batting orders through 75 games.
"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." -Jack Handy
well said clutterheart
well said
We’re all in this together whether we/you like it or not…..If you feel you’re associated with this crap….. than maybe ‘this crap’ is getting to you a little bit in a way that could of been avoided … Fans have the right to let the team know they’re underachieving thats the fan’s job, in a way.
Always ignore the Fan who takes it to the extreme of badgering and cursing the Twins organization because they’re not a True Team Fan.
~David Kahn is pretty much clueless~
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 1, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
You can't ignore what's everywhere.
One of the biggest problems is that “this crap” is being driven in part by members in the media like Souhan. It’s impossible to avoid the media coverage. Layfans then listen to the media and assume they know what they’re talking about. Not everyone is informed enough to go to blogs like this one and weigh different opinions. Most fans don’t read any sports blogs, and thus they just decide that Kevin Slowey is being a baby because that’s what they see printed in the newspaper. I identify as a Twins fan, so others who identify as Twins fans share their opinions with me. I don’t want to have to stop talking about baseball and being a Twins fan just to avoid meathead stupidity.
When it comes to ignoring irrational fans, it’s difficult to do. I have been trying to ignore all the negativity. The point here is that it’s everywhere and impossible to avoid. If a fan behind me at the ballpark is griping and moaning about ridiculous things, I’m going to hear him whether I like it or not. What can I do? I can’t exactly move seats, and I don’t want to pick a fight with him — that would just make things worse.
This king of constant negativity is part of why I’m not as big of a Vikings fas as I was 10-12 years ago. I used to obsess about the Vikes to the point where I geeked about about the NFL draft, followed roster battles in training camp, and listened to Vikings talk shows on the radio. After a while, I just got very, very sick of hearing everyone around me angrily complaining about every little thing that went wrong. It was so over-hyped and constantly negative that it simply became no fun for me to be a fan anymore. Nowadays, football is no more than a passing interest to me. I don’t even watch half of the Vikings game anymore because I don’t want to get sucked back into that “angry fan” scene.
I know that the added popularity of the Twins over the last few years brings with it more criticism from fans and the media. I just don’t want to see the attitude of Twins fans become like those of Yankees/Red Sox fans — where everything is the end of the world and everybody sucks. That would take all the fun out of it for me. Baseball is my favorite sport, and I don’t want a bad atmosphere to drive me away from it like it did with football.
"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." -Jack Handy
by Flip27 on Jul 1, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Regardless ....
Every person is responsible for what they post. Souhan can’t “make” me get riled up & irrational – if that happens, I’ve chosen it.
Fan insanity isn’t “like” a temper tantrum, it is a temper tantrum. The raging fan thinks he’s entitled to the result he wants.
When his team wins, it’s expected.
When his team loses, well, “Today, they were better than us” is never acceptable – - – there’s going to be a scapegoat, a player/coach/manager whose stupid play/decisions cost us or officials who robbed us.
Once in a blue moon …. a VERY blue moon … they might be right (I’ve seen a few games which were stolen by the officials). Generally, nope, not even close.
What’s disappointing about this year is we’ve rolled “snake eyes” on most of our pre-season questions.
How’s Morneau going to be? Not good.
New guys at SS & 2B …. how are we going to be? Thus far, it hasn’t been good.
How’s Mauer doing after that surgery? Well …. not so hot.
We let a bunch of bullpen arms go …. yeah, and it hasn’t been great, has it?
Will Joe N be able to help? Not yet.
Kinda worried about outfield defense when we’re running Young, Cuddyer & Kubel out there to play the field regularly? Well, you should be …
Frankie’s been up & down. Offense came close to averaging less than 3 runs per game in April … not “earned runs,” RUN “runs.” Young looks like he’s chasing a greased pig in the outfield. Infielders who look like they’re trying to miss the 1st baseman with their throws ….
It’s been the kind of thing that you watch – and then get some appreciation for how bad the ’62 Mets really were ….
Right on with the Yankees/Red Sox fans thing
With the new stadium, this is exactly what hurts me the most. I used to love the facts Twins fans hoped for win a World Series and didn’t just expect it. I used to love the fact Twins fans didn’t boo their own players. I used to love that Twins fans were usually so nice to fans of the opposing team.
Now? I’m seeing this all start to change. Twins fans are starting to act more like Yankee/Red Sox fans. It’s annoying.
"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez
by myjah on Jul 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't say I disagree at all
It’s frustrating enough to see hear (live in DesMoines, not on TV down here, have to listen to them on radio…..probably a good thing, but still pisses me off) the Twins play like this, but it’s compounded with the debbie downers out there. There’s a lot that we can complain about, but it’s pretty simple this year: The Twins aren’t that good. With the new stadium we all have the hopes of having the Twins play in the World Series outdoors, at HOME. But c’mon peeps, this is getting a little out of hand. Any true Twins fan should have known how large the uphill climb was this year. And that was before Mauer, Jimmy, Kubes, and the host of others had their injury issues. Personally, I like to keep the faith. No expectations. Take what we can get. Maybe make another run to close out this season. Let’s be honest, if we can get/keep the distance down to about 6 or 7 games back, with how pathetic the rest of this division is, we got a shot.. We need what has won us our division crowns in the past: limited errors, good baserunning, timely hits, and solid pitching. We just need to improve a little bit in each category. If we do that, we’ll start blowing teams out 3-2.
Skol!
Agree to a point
And that point is that most people expected the Twins to be a success in 2011. Maybe not a true success because of Bullpen issues coming into the season, but we never expected the team to start out so poorly that games could be lost at a greater clip than expected. Yes we got whacked by the injury bug, but that still doesn’t leave Gardy blameless. He is the one that is expected to get this team ready for the season. For example, the Twins mis-handled Joe Mauer’s knee surgery just like the Vikings mishandled Sidney Rice’s injury problem. The thing is that the entire team should have been forced to play all out in spring training games for about five innings including Justin Morneau. Instead Gardy treated spring training for the vets like Club Med while the minor leaguers got to play most of the games. The last guy to treat a training camp like Club Med was Wade Phillips with the 2010 Dallas Cowboys and look at what happened to him. He got fired. Like I said above, this community is in the minority. Witness Jon’s ironic game recap from last night and review it against AP reporter Dave Campbell’s review of the game. A viewer reading Jon’s recap would conclude that we just need to score runs while a viewer reading Dave’s recap would run for the hills screaming for the heads of Joe Mauer, Jim Thome, and Nishi who had two errors on the day.
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"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew
I agree. Who would prefer being injured to playing?
I know what you mean, Flip. The weirdest part is when people trash guys who can’t play because of injuries, as if it’s a choice. Why would they do that? Mauer would rather be weak and sidelined than be a happy hero? It makes no sense.
These are guys who devoted their entire lives to one thing only: reaching and playing in the major leagues. That’s all they want. So they’re going to make excuses to sit out once they get there?
I am amazed by the number of comments on the strib site saying they’re wusses when they don’t play. If anything, they were playing when they shouldn’t have been, and it made things worse. Morneau had a bad disk in his neck all season and kept playing till his wrist stopped working. Mauer still hadn’t recovered from knee surgery, tried to play anyway, and couldn’t. That makes him happy to be sidelined?
I can understand being mad about the situation, but questioning their character doesn’t logically follow. (And anyway, even if their characters are pure evil, they’d still want to play; a totally selfish player would want to pad his numbers for his next contract, wouldn’t he?)
I even saw Strib columnists criticizing Mauer for refusing to play first base. Says who? Aren’t those decisions usually made by the manager? And as soon as the manager said so he did it. Crazy.
The trashing of Slowey was even weirder. The strib columnists only let up when a doctor proved he was injured. But again, why would he fake an injury? How does he benefit from that? Crazy.
But I still feel like we can kvetch all we want about bad management decisions. Those weren’t just bad luck — they were choices, and choices should be evaluated. It’s one thing to say, oh well, the delmon young trade didn’t work out too great, but I was for it at the time, so I’m not pointing fingers. But if you howled in outrage the moment you heard of a trade like Ramos for Capps, because you know Mauer will need a lot of relief to stay healthy, it only makes you madder to be found right. There’s no satisfaction in it; it’s much worse because it was avoidable. Likewise cutting Neshek.I think that stuff is well within the range of normal and acceptable fan discussions. (Though if it only makes you miserable, I can see the logic in giving it a rest, too.)
How about those Nats?
by by jiminy on Jun 29, 2011 2:14 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
There's a place for anger and criticism
And, considering that the player/staff salaries are hugely bolstered by public money, I think some of that anger and criticism is valid.
Much of the Mauer criticism, however, comes from media “experts” (hello, Souhan) saying their insider knowledge gives us insight as to Mauer’s being a lazy self-obsessed prick. This might be true. It might not. Since we don’t have access to the same information, we don’t know for sure.
If Mauer’s a prick, it’s good information to know. It would affect how much emotion we put into the team. But if Souhan et. al. are just assuming Mauer to be a prick, based on his lack of interaction with them, that doesn’t tell us much. (Ted Williams didn’t like sportswriters.)
I don’t buy into the “you don’t own the team, you can’t get angry about how it’s run” argument. We don’t own it, but we pay taxes that go into its cash register. We are justified in voicing our negative opinions.
I do agree that the personal attacks need to be backed up by hard evidence. Saying Mauer’s contract was too high based on predicted future production, or saying it was a good signing, are valid opinions. Saying Mauer’s a soft and lazy prick needs some proof to back it up, not just guesses as to the nature of his character because he’s had a bad season so far. I think Bill Smith is in over his head as GM, but I have nothing against him personally, and I think at worst he should be demoted back to his old job.
On the other hand, if Mauer started slapping little kids around, would those personal attacks be unjustified? No, they wouldn’t. He’s not likely to do that, which is what makes the anti-Mauer vitriol seem like it comes from out of nowhere (or sportswriters’ needs to create controversy to sell papers in a so-far dull season.)
In short, I don’t think fans are wrong to feel frustrated. And some of that frustration can probably be deservedly aimed at specific front-office decisions and certain players (Delmon seems to not be a max-effort guy.) But to wholesale demonize people is mad and wrong (Delmon might be the greatest person ever outside of his lackadaisical fielding effort, I don’t know.)
This tendency towards simplifying everything is out there, and it’s something this technology makes easier to do. Going forward, we’’ll have to deal with that.
Steve Goodman lives.
The Twins' success this decade has spoiled us as fans
Our expectations are high because of that. ( Even SI picked the Twins to win big this season) The spate of unfortunate injuries has frustrated fans and players alike. No one can control or predict injuries. The team has done well considering the number of AAA players on the roster every day, but people who have purchased tickets don’t receive a discount even though the product they are getting isn’t what they initially paid for. Fans feel they are being cheated a bit maybe.
One of the great things about being a sports fan is knowing your team and rooting for them. Do any of us know anything about Rene Tosoni? I wouldn’t recognize him if he sat next to me. We’re hesitant to take the time to learn about these guys because they’re just temporary…until our guys come back.
Granted, some people are not happy unless they are complaining or make themselves feel bigger by tearing others down, and these folks will gripe no matter what. But even true fans are angry. I think a lot of frustration might have been alleviated if there had been better communication from the FO and Gardy. Mauer was just gone for all that time and we never heard from him or got any regular updates. Maybe they thought they were protecting him but they really did him a disservice by keeping quiet. His private life is his own, but his status as a Twins player is in a sense, our business. When the message we get from the FO is silence, then the rumor mills fill the vacuum. We’re fans. We care about our guys. Inquiring minds want to know.
The other teams could make trouble for us if they win. — Yogi Berra
by Twnzfan on Jun 29, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This post, and many of the comments, are very good.
One other thing that makes it easier to criticize the front office is the lack of players the Twins system has produced lately. Back in the 90s and early 2000s, it seems like the Twins had a rookie of the year or ROY candidate about every year or every other year.
Now, we’ve gone about 3 or 4 years or longer without a true breakthrough guy coming up through the system (maybe Span, but he hasn’t shown to be as good as Torii was). So, the front office has to get more creative and spend more money. More money leads to increased expectations, and when you have a bad half-season (like now) that leads to unhappiness.
I would think more people would just sit back in the “beautiful Target Field” environs and just chalk this year up to bad health. And Souhan needs to move to New York or somewhere where he is expected to stir the pot.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
What's your problem with Danny Valencia?
Ben Revere looks like a ballplayer. You’re not going to get an all-star every year. I think the Twins farm system has been pretty productive.
Because I'm bored at work and a fan of xkcd / fun flow charts, I made this:

"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." -Jack Handy
by Flip27 on Jun 30, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Awesome.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen
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