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Tigers 5, Twins 2: Liriano Erratic, Porcello Solid as Minnesota Drops to Seven Games Back in AL Central

MINNEAPOLIS, MN - JULY 24: Francisco Liriano #47 of the Minnesota Twins gives the ball to manager Ron Gardenhire #35 of the Minnesota Twins in the third inning against the Detroit Tigers on July 24, 2011 at Target Field in Minneapolis, Minnesota. (Photo by Hannah Foslien/Getty Images)

For a moment in today's game, it looked like Francisco Liriano might be effectively wild. That didn't last too terribly long. And when the Twins had chances early to score, they blew it. I think that right now it's more than fair to say that the Twins are a good team, and a competitive team, they're just not good or competitive enough.

Liriano did a good job of working ahead of hitters, but was ultimately unable to put them away. His mechanics were all over the board, he was over-throwing, and even when he was throwing strikes he was missing his spots. In the first inning he fought out of a two-on, two-out situation by getting Victor Martinez to ground out sharply to Danny Valencia. But that was about as good as it would get.

Star-divide

In the second inning we got a taste of exactly what kind of day this would be like for Liriano. In the first he's allowed an infield single and a walk before getting out of it run-free, but in the second he'd walk Ryan Raburn, allow him to go to second on a wild pitch, then record his second strikeout of the inning, and then another infield single put runners on the corners with two away.

So Liriano threw another wild pitch, and it gave the Tigers a 1-0 lead. Austin Jackson would walk before Liriano got the final out of the inning, but by that point Cisco had already thrown 47 pitches.

In the third it was more of the same. Magglio Ordonez led off with a four-pitch walk. Liriano would get ahead of Miguel Cabrera before running the count full, and he eventually struck Cabrera out on a slider in the dirt, but as a result Joe Mauer wasn't in a good position to get off a good throw and Ordonez took second. Liriano went ahead of Martinez 0-2 but couldn't put him away, and it led to yet another infield single.

With runners on the corners and still just one out, Liriano had been working ahead of hitters but couldn't keep himself straight. At this point he was still just one hard ground ball away of getting out of the inning with the score just 1-0, and if that had come to pass it's possible that Liriano's day would have been different. But it wasn't to be. Jhonny Peralta singled on a broken bat single into the outfield, the Tigers first outfield hit of the day, giving Detroit a 2-0 lead. Ryan Raburn singled to load the bases, Wilson Betemit picked up the first well-struck single of the day for the Tigers, and at 3-0 that was the end of Liriano's afternoon. He wasn't happy.

Anthony Swarzak stepped in and did alright. He induced what should have been an inning-ending double play, but it was misplayed by Alexi Casilla. It allowed the score to expand to 4-0, but from there Swarzak stopped the bleeding, and would finish his day by going three-and-a-third while allowing just one run.

The Twins picked up a pair in the fourth, thanks to a leadoff walk from Michael Cuddyer and a one-out double from Valencia. Jim Thome (who doubled today, too, and that was precious) plated the first run on a groundout, and Delmon Young doubled for run number two.

But this was a rough day all around. Mauer had a couple of well-struck balls into deep left for outs. Jason Kubel was 0-for-4 with a pair of strikeouts, but Tsuyoshi Nishioka was even worse. Abysmal is probably the best word for it, as he went 0-for-3 with three strikeouts. He was 2-for-12 in the series with seven strikeouts, and I don't think it's possible for one guy to look much worse than he did today. No doubt he needs a day or two off. There are going to be growing pains for a guy in his situation, and this series is about as bad as it's looked for him this year.

With the loss the Twins fail to take advantage of the Cleveland loss and fall to seven games out of first place. They're also six games out of second and two-and-a-half behind the White Sox (who won today).

Far be it from me to say it's too late for the Twins. They've done it in a worse situation, and in recent memory. But that doesn't make it likely, and if I'm the front office I'm seriously considering selling instead of wondering how I could smartly improve the bullpen.

But that is what's great about baseball. Tomorrow is another day, and you never know what will happen over the next few weeks. Let's hope for something entirely improbable, like a ten-game winning streak.

Studs

Swarzak, James, Burnett, Capps

Duds

Nishioka, Kubel, Liriano

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Get down there and SELL! SELL! SELL!

The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.

by Eric in Madison on Jul 24, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Buy! Win now!

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 24, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

When they were 20 games under .500, the smart money said it was over.

…then they had to go on a streak and give us some hope. Tom Kelly said when this series started, the Twins needed to go 8-4. Well, 6-6 with losing 3 of 4 to the league leaders tells me it is over.

Right now Bill Smith has to make some serious decisions and start looking to 2012 and 2013. I sincerely hope he is up to it as the return for Santana, Garza/Bartlett, and Wilson Ramos wasn’t all that good! I sincerely hope he doesn’t do something stupid like trading Hendriks and one of our top young outfielders for a big-time reliever.

by roger13 on Jul 24, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

A good homestand and they would have been right in it.

Honestly, the offense is a shambles. Even if they were contending for the division lead, they are too weak to contend in the postseason. They need a lot right now; mostly, they need Mauer and Morneau to recover. I’m still hoping that Nishioka will be able to play at this level.

It wouldn’t bother me if they look toward next year at this point.

"'Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"

by rubberbiscuit on Jul 24, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's a choice between

…chasing a heroic outcome this year or setting up for a drive in a next year or the year after that, then I have to say they should sell.

by MNPundit on Jul 25, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Smith only does what his advisors tell him

In this case i hope he doesnt listen to the marketing department and go for a blockbuster trade.
Hopefully he stays smart and holds on to Slowey and trades Kubel, Delmon and Thome.

by clutterheart on Jul 25, 2011 6:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No

Marketing is telling him to keep on holding to Jim Thome because he will hit home run #600 and that better be with the Minnesota Twins. Hopefully he does it against the White Sox.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not giving up.

Keep it up Twins! Just keep pushing through adversity and hope for the best!

I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...

by urluckyday on Jul 24, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Never Give Up! Never Surrender!

By Grabthar’s hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged, Justin Morneau!

The only stat that counts is W

by wayback on Jul 24, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

*claps slowly*

I called Thome's 596th home run! BOOM! :D

by twinsgirl197 on Jul 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a prime example of what your parents don't want you to see.

Horror movies.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 24, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mobile rec

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 24, 2011 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

RedDawnAvengeMe.jpg

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 24, 2011 11:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mobile rec

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 24, 2011 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jesse Better not Jinx us

Fischean did so on Friday and Twinsgirl197 had the honors today. Friday Fischean said that the Twins would score a bunch of runs while Twinsgirl predicted Thome’s 597th home run today.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 24, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhh

That didn’t jinx the win, just Jimmers

I called Thome's 596th home run! BOOM! :D

by twinsgirl197 on Jul 24, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something tells me

Twins hitters are underachieving and Twins starting pitchers are finished overachieving. That doesn’t bode well for . . .

. . . umpf . . . grrgle . . . twss . . . The comeback is upon us! I must believe! It’s happening!

(I do like it when the team keeps things interesting as long as possible, though.)

Steve Goodman lives.

by twinsbrewer on Jul 24, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Playoff wise

We may be out of it, but there still is a chance to play spoiler.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 24, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuck in limbo between buying and selling...

I predict no significant moves (that we wouldn’t make anyways).

What ever happened to “one game at a time”? I figured if we got to .500, things might get interesting and I’d start thinking it was a pennant race. We haven’t gotten to .500 yet, so I’m just enjoying the games.

by DavidRF on Jul 24, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the trade prediction

However, I think the goal for the remainder of this season should be to be ahead of the White Sox by season’s end. It’s like a mini-pennant race where the pennant is the AL Central bronze medal.

This is the sort of stuff I cheered for in the post-Kirby/pre-Cuddyer days.

by ColossusOfRhode on Jul 24, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking this a little bit ago.

I am just going to enjoy watching the games, you never know what kind of history could be made on any single game or any single play.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!!!

by bf4mvp on Jul 24, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Stuck in limbo is right.

If we wanted to know if we were buyers or sellers after this homestand, we needed to with break serve or get broken. Instead, we kind of meekly held and can now say that we’re treading water and within striking distance… But sacrificing prospects for a player to get us to make up 7 games? I have a hard time doing it. I just…really do.

by MNWildcat on Jul 25, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Held serve?

They lost 3/4 to the division leader at home. They’ve lost 12 of the last 13 to that same team. We know where the team stands – firmly in 4th place.

by DJL44 on Jul 25, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The held serve analogy wasn't mine, we definitely slipped last week

My original point was that although we’ve slipped, I still think we’re too close to sell off the veterans. All the talk of this tradeline seems to have focused on “buyers” versus “sellers” but I think we’re in between. I certainly wouldn’t mortgage the future for the 2011 Twins, but I think we’re still tantalizingly close enough that we’d completely alienate the fan base if we just “gave up”.

We might trade guys we’d trade either way though. Slowey appears to want out either way and if anyone wanted to give us something for Delmon, I’d take it.

by DavidRF on Jul 25, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But just look at the team's record entering June

We had exactly 17 wins. Yes I know there is a marked improvement since that time period, but we should be in first place despite losing games to the Detroit Kitties.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 25, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddam Kitties!

See you in Game 163, bitches!

"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"God grab your neck but never choke" -Ozzie Guillen

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jul 24, 2011 11:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

I'd settle for more 'neau.

Seems like he’s hardly around these last few years.

by MNPundit on Jul 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 in Texas

For better or worse, I REALLY hope we know where the team stands after these 4 games.

by John_Locke on Jul 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

Limbo sucks.

Oh crap, I’m Catholic…

by MNWildcat on Jul 25, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest for the Trees

i know the intial reaction to this homestand is diasppointment, and to be sure that is a justifiable reaction. The one thing that i would caution is that when a team is trying to come back from being 20 games under .500 they have to be able to see the forrest for the trees, so to speak. If they can hold serve (4-3, 3-4) on this road trip they will have had there 3rd straight winning month. I know that isn’t the easiest way to look at it, considering that time is running out, but since no team is running away with the division, and so many division games to be played, they have to do whatever they can to keep it close for one last push. A couple of things that i would like to see (a trade would be nice, but i’m not going to speculate on that):

1. Move Revere to the bottom of the order. Move everyone up one spot in the order. This minor tweek might be the best way to shelter Revere’s current struggles and who knows getting him out of the lead off spot might allow him to relax and get going again.

2. There was a time when saying this would be foolish, but i think that as long as they are carrying 13 pitchers they need to lean on the Bullpen a little more. I know our bullpen hasn’t been great, but neither has the starting pitching over the last couple of weeks. In particular i would like to see a little shorter leash on Duensing and Liriano. neither has really shown the ability to work themselves out of jams this year, and I don’t think Gardy should continue to try. James, Swarzak, and Dumatrait are all capable of pitching multiple innings so this shouldn’t shorten your bullpen too much.

by tc_brent on Jul 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Liriano pitched 2.1 innings on Sunday

Not sure how much shorter his leash can get. The three guys you named are in the ‘pen because they aren’t as good as Liriano and Duensing.

by Stefa on Jul 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

First things, you mispelled Forest (extra r)

Second, I agree with your assestment on Ben Revere, but I would move him to the 7th or 8th spot and have Joe Mauer bat lead-off. He is hitting only singles right now, but that would be a marked improvement over having two outs in the first when he bats and the guy I would bat third is Danny Valencia and he is having the hot bat right now.

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
"Life is precious and time is a key element. Let’s make every moment count and help those who have a greater need than our own." – Harmon Killebrew

by Jessy S on Jul 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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