Twins Trade Rumors: Cuddyer, Mijares, Span, Slowey
by Jesse on Jul 26, 2011 5:35 PM EDT
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Happy Tuesday afternoon everyone. Hopefully that 20-6 painful tale is fading in your memories as you read this. We've had a few fresh Twins-related trade tidbits come through the wire over the last 24 hours, so here's your latest.
- According to Scott Miller of CBS Sports, the Angels have discussed Michael Cuddyer internally. Of course this really means nothing concrete, other than the fact that they have interest. Add the Angels to a list that has included the Phillies, Yankees, Giants and Braves in the recent past. No doubt there are other contenders who would consider renting Cuddyer.
- Last night Buster Olney told the baseball world that the Twins had been looking for suitors for Jose Mijares. Mijares is a guy I've defended here in the past, but this year he has completely fallen off the wagon. A lot of players have at least started to scratch their way out of their early season holes; Mijares doesn't seem to be getting any more effective. Next year might be a different matter and it might not, but you certainly can't blame the Twins for shopping Jose. Maybe he's another one of those change-of-location cases.
- Denard Span is getting a second night off in a row from the Red Wings. Which is just a bit odd. This should put a damper on any Span trade rumors for a number of reasons. First and foremost, you have to be careful with concussion issues and Span's health need to be the number one priority. You can't trade a guy who's in that state. Second, taking that over to the baseball side of things, it hurts his value. Selling low on a guy with a concussion is classless in too many ways, and the Twins won't do it. Of course, all this is just me assuming that two days off in a row has something to do with post-concussion issues. Maybe it doesn't. Either way: I don't want to trade Span. He's too valuable, and there's no reason for Minnesota to deal him anyway.
- Here's one late addition: according to Yahoo's Tim Brown (not the former NFL receiver great), the Rockies (and other teams) are after Kevin Slowey.
That's all I've got for now. Game coming up in a few hours!
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I forgot to mention this.
It’s interesting, and I absolutely HAVE to believe that’s just lip service, because how can the Twins not be sellers right now?
It just amazes me that a team that is 8 games under .500 won't consider selling.
If it really is a matter of losing out the rest of the week then I hope it happens. If that makes me a bad fan, so be it. This is just not the year. It’s time to set up for next season.
Exactly.
Understanding the delicate balance between this year and future years is part of baseball.
I think the Twins do consider themselves sellers. The last two days every rumor we’ve heard has surrounded which of their players are available. Even that Uehara rumor is dated.
sorry, but I can never root against my team
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Jul 26, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's hoping "not selling" doesn't mean "not listening".
I’m cool with us telling people we’re still going for it. The issue I run into is I don’t think we’ll be getting much from teams in return, as the players we’re most likely to get rid of (excluding Kubel and Cuddles) are having bad years.
I’m just assuming we’re not trading Span, cause it would cause me to put together a rant that would get me banned from this website.
I think everyone would be in agreement with you
And Jesse being in England has to appreciate the art of bloody outrage
by twinscrazy_german on Jul 26, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Its all a game...
Tell people you are selling and they ask for less. I never believe a rumor until its a posted transaction on the teams official site.
That’s why I tune out every offseason. Wake me up when its August.
I guess I’m thinking they are looking at this season the same way I’m looking at this season. Lost due to injuries. We’ve lost Mauer, Morneau, Span, Kubel, Thome, Nishioka, Slowey, Nathan and Even Gardenhire for a few games. They may let Thome go, but I don’t think they trade anyone who can be helpful next season.
by Brady Eyestone on Jul 26, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How dare they even consider trading Denard
When I just chose his number for my jersey??
And especially for another rag of relievers!
If you are so desperate to sort out your OF depth, please, feel free to do it with Delmon, Professional Hitter or Ben Revere, but don’t touch the guy who is going to be our anchor out there for the next years that was having a great season before this head injury business!
by twinscrazy_german on Jul 26, 2011 5:52 PM EDT reply actions
Span's a great Twin.
I consider him part of the “core.” One of my favorite players. He’d be a really bizarre choice to trade.
I vote on trading
Mijares!!! Someone can have him!
makes no sense at this point in time...
you’re not going to get much for him right now.
makes more sense to see if you can get him right and/or healthy (i believe he’s hurt) and rebuild value.
Absolutely.
Relievers like Mijares have relatively value anyway (or at least SHOULD have relatively little value), so the Twins wouldn’t be getting a lot for him at his best. At his worst? Why even try?
I voted Span....
because the Twins’ FO is apparently dumb.
Liriano would be stupid because he’s at his lowest possible value point.
Blackburn would be smart (he sucks) but he’s Gardy’s boy; not happening.
Cuddyer would be dumb unless you get great value because you can collect two top-40 picks after this year in letting him walk. But the Twins will instead re-sign him probably.
But I say Span, because it’s BS’s MO so far; trade a good, controlled premium position player for a reliever or something that’s worth far less. Really hope I’m wrong.
Trading Span when he’s cheap as hell for FOUR MORE YEARS after this one is beyond stupid, especially when there is no capable replacement (Revere is not one, not yet). His value will be no less a year from now, or even 2 years from now, than it is now. So keep him.
Kenny Williams
Kenny Williams of the White Sox is talking about a complete overturn of their roster, and they’re only a game below .500. We’re still significantly below it, but are talking about adding pieces.
MLB Network's claiming it's due to having a costly roster and plummeting attendance.
For what that’s worth.
Yeah, they’ve got a lot of expensive contracts and players who are vastly underperforming, so I don’t think it’s the wrong move for the White Sox.
I just think it’s interesting that a team above the Twins in the standings is talking about blowing it all up while we’re still acting like we have a chance.
Would love to see the Twins pull an Angels move and "buy"....
for 2012.
On this date exactly a year ago the Angels were 7.5 back of the Rangers and essentially done. But they still went out and got a major piece for this year in Dan Haren. Giving up the equivalent of Brian Duensing and 2 decent minor league pitchers.
I’m not betting on it with Bill Smith at the helm, but I’d love to see us make a move like that.
like i said, man....
I see no chance of it happening.
But boy would I like to see something like that.
Damper on trade rumors?
If anything, keeping Span out of the lineup suggests that they are working on a trade. Hopefully that’s not really the case.
Still laughing at the idea that Cuddyer gets traded
Laughing – in stitches mind you!!!
Laughing to the point of getting super annoyed and almost angry. But laughing nonetheless….
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Jul 26, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Nats just picked up Jonny Gomes.
Might reduce their interest in acquiring another outfielder (cough Span cough).
He is certainly that.
Still not good enough for a centerpiece in a trade for Span, though. But yes, he’s certainly better than what we have now.
I'm honestly not even sure about that...
I mean, I know he’s got a nice minor league track record, but are we SURE that he’s going to be a better SS longterm than Alexi Casilla, for instance?
I still don’t get this long leash on Yoshi so far. I mean, you have to be patient to an extent, but geez. I’d like to see an awful lot more of Casilla (who actually has performed BETTER in his career at SS than 2b) at SS and Plouffe at 2b and see what we have there.
Nishi (Yoshi) has the long leash
But that leash is due to his first year in the majors and the fact that he has been injured for much of the year. Besides that, he actually had the tying hit in last night’s game. Yes he has been committing errors lately, but they are blamed on the extreme heat.
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Capps for Brendan Harris
The beard abides.
by Jason Kubel's Beard on Jul 26, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Capps for Lew Ford!
"Nobody wants to hear me rap." - Joe Mauer
"METEOR" - JIM THOME
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's face it
The Twins really don’t have anyone that is of real value. I agree that a Capps trade should be made, at least get something before walks next season.
I'd contest that.
Cuddyer has value. And I think if the Twins had the guts to sell high on Blackburn, or if they found the right bidder for Liriano, they’d have value. Kubel probably has value for the right team, although he’s much more limited in potential landing spots than Cuddyer.
Mostly I agree with you. Impending FAs like Capps and Thome won’t fetch much of anything. But if your definition of “real value” is what the Twins would get for trading a superstar, then of course they don’t have anyone of “real value”. In terms of useful players though, there are a couple.
I contest that.
Sell high on Blackburn? To whom? Did you see him pitch last night? I agree that Cuddyer and Mauer have value, high value, Useful players, the Twins have plenty of but improving the team thru the trade route is going to be difficult but I think they should take some chances because they really don’t have anything to lose. The Twins are in a real jam here.
I'm about the least fond of Blackburn of anyone I know...
he might be my least favorite Twins pitcher of all time (mostly due to Gardy’s Punto/Butera level of faith in him more than anything he has actually done).
But I still think he’d be worth, say, a solid reliever from an NL team looking for a #4 starter in that JV league.
Also, I don't think it's "selling low" either....
I really doubt Blackburn will ever be any better than he is right now.
Up-grade for this year and next...
Trade Slowey, Joe Benson and Trevor Plouffe to Colorado for Ubaldo Jimenez. You get back a #2 type picture that is making only 2.8 million. Colorado asking for 3 major league type players one that can start right away. And they like Slowey. We still have Hicks, Revere, Arcia, Morales, Rosario, and Tosoni plus the glut of outfields at the majors. Also trade Cuddyer to San Francisco for Hector Sanchez a top notch catching prospect. Then offer Cuddyer 2 years at 12 million as a free agent this winter. If he doesn’t take it – offer Koji Uehara 3 years at 12-13 million. Then you have up-graded the starting pitching and your bullpen is built around Nathan, Perkins, Duensing (moved to pen) Uehara and Capps?
if you do that...
you also have to have an agreement with SF that they don’t offer Cuddyer arbitration.
and if the Giants are going to agree to that, then they’re going to give you a lot less value in a trade, knowing that they lose out on 2 top 40 picks.
Suppose Cuddyer declines arbitration if offered.
Twins sign him, having stayed in the bottom half of the league. Giants get a supplemental pick and Twins’ second rounder.
That is true
The Twins 1st round pick is protected in the top 15. Right now they would pick 11th.
Read this on seth's blog as well
Really would make it a viable option
Cuddyer would fetch you something in the “supplemental draft pick plus something” range
by twinscrazy_german on Jul 27, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
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