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Kyle Gibson Injury Analysis: Flexor Pronator Muscle Strains and Partial UCL Tears

PHOENIX, AZ - JULY 10:  U.S. Futures All-Star Kyle Gibson #44 of the Minnesota Twins pitches in the seventh inning during the 2011 XM All-Star Futures Game at Chase Field on July 10, 2011 in Phoenix, Arizona.  (Photo by Jeff Gross/Getty Images)

As Jon pointed out yesterday, MLB.com's Rhett Bollinger announced that both Kyle Gibson and Anthony Slama would "avoid" Tommy John surgery. I agree with Jon in that this is more of a delay than anything else, because Tommy John isn't something that can be avoided. Some players choose to pitch through the pain at certain points in their careers, but this is not something either Gibson or Slama should be doing. If something strains too far or a ligament tears, that's it. You'll need Tommy John, it can't be avoided. Not for pitchers in their 20s.

Both Gibson and Slama have been diagnosed with flexor pronator muscle strains. These muscles are located on the side of the forearm, opposite the thumb, and their job is to protect the elbow by countering torque during the throwing motion. In this situation these muscles have suffered from repetitive stress due to the throwing motion, causing pain during "the late cocking or acceleration phases of throwing". Obviously, recurring issues here can be an issue, leading to bigger problems.

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A number of medical websites indicate that flexor muscles respond to rest and medication, physical therapy and an eventual return to throwing. We'll get into this a bit more after the jump.

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J.J. Putz suffered a flexor pronator muscle strain during spring training in 2007. He saved 40 games for the Mariners that season in his career year to date, although he hasn't been the same since '07. Stephen Strasburg was initially diagnosed with a flexor pronator strain but after a second test went under the knife for Tommy John in 2010.

Examples like this exist through baseball history, which is sort of a mixed bag for Slama. If it really is nothing more than a flexor pronator muscle strain, rest will probably do the trick for him. He won't be able to pitch for the remainder of 2011, but he'd be ready to go by spring training next February. But for Gibson I remain convinced that a wait only delays his big league career.

Partial UCL tears can, sometimes, heal enough for a pitcher to compete. But in many circumstances problems will recur again. And again. One website goes to far as to say "those athletes who had had a partial tear or "sprain" of their UCL while in amateur baseball had a very high recurrence rate and often had their careers cut short by their elbow injuries.  So, when a thrower has repeated episodes of pain on the inner side of the elbow coming from a partially torn or stretched UCL a reconstruction may be necessary."

Major League Baseball is certainly not amateur baseball, and I certainly wouldn't dub triple-A in that fashion either. But I doubt that changes anything.

My biggest concern is that Gibson's long-term health may be put at jeopardy by not having the surgery, which I believe he's going to need at some point whether that's now or in six months or in two years. Going under now means he'd be unavailable for all of 2012 but would have 18 months to recover and rehabilitate before February 2013. Waiting six months means he's still unavailable for all of '12, and it also puts '13 at a gamble at best. And not having the surgery at all, even if he somehow manages to avoid Tommy John surgery, means rolling loaded dice for as long as it takes before the elbow finally goes out on him.

I appreciate the philosphy of surgery as a last resort. But recent Twins history is littered with names of pitchers who have tried rest before causing themselves more pain and keeping them out of the game even longer: Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan, Scott Baker, Pat Neshek, Boof Bonser. Sometimes it's better it's better to look at the long-term risks and secure the future instead of hoping for a miracle that would help in the present...or 2012.

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Good analysis

There are circumstances where trying rest and rehab make sense. Nathan’s Spring Training in 2010 is one of those, ‘cause it didn’t cost him much in the long run. But this is not one of those cases for a lot of reasons:

  • There was some hope Nathan could pitch for the Twins in 2010. Gibson’s 2011 season is done no matter what.
  • Nathan was nearing the end of his career with a big contract. Gibson’s whole career is ahead of him, with no financial commitment to speak of for the foreseeable future.
  • Nathan was a key cog on this team. The way things look, Gibson will not be needed in 2012, with seven proven starters under team control.

In short, this is the best time to do the surgery, all things considered. The risks are much higher in waiting than just taking care of now.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

seven proven starters

Seems a bit optimistic. Some of them have proven they aren’t that great.

by DJL44 on Aug 10, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

By "proven" I mean they've shown they can eat innings

Sometimes not well, I grant. And I would love a couple of upgrades like a healthy Gibson. But it’s not like we need his arm in 2012.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Aug 10, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a bummer

He was one of the few hopes for a 2012 turnaround.

by clutterheart on Aug 10, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

it seems

that of all the problems with the twins lately, the medical staff is 1 or 1a

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by fetch9 on Aug 10, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

well, no one should shoulder all the blame

but it’s not all on the players either.

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by fetch9 on Aug 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luck can account for 1 year

Not two. Percentages indicate that things should have eased this past year. They intensified instead.

SOME examination of the training & medical staff is definitely due.

by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit happens.

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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but

The complaints with the medical staff have a lot more to do with botched diagnosis, and consistently poor recovery, and invariably the eventual surgery that they were trying to avoid…

by diehardtwinsfan on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon now

“Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up” is very sound medical advice.

Steve Goodman lives.

by twinsbrewer on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Blame Game

I understand it’s a popular thing around here to blame the medical staff for injuries, the stock market, moldy bread, and just about everything else.

My question: While we know that there does seem to be a pattern of delay between initial diagnosis and eventual surgery with several of these cases, how does anyone here know (for certain) the delay was suggested/caused/imposed/enforced/whatever by the medical staff, versus the player and his representatives?

If I were a player, I’d be awful careful about undergoing a surgery that would prevent me from competing for such a long time with an uncertain future (though improving track record of success). And if I were that player, I’d really appreciate the team taking care of the PR issues and covering my back with their medical staff. Just because you know the player’s surgery was delayed is not the same thing as knowing the player wanted surgery immediately and the team pushed it back.

Oh, and for the record, at least a few of the players in your list (Neshek comes to mind) have been less than forthcoming with pain to the coaching staff.

by MajorLongfont on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Every time this happens, the team publicly says "surgery is a last resort" It is a well-known team policy

As for being forthcoming, I think reporting pain is discouraged. In several cases, they dismissed injuries and publicly accused the player of “faking it”. In some cases (Perkins, Neshek, Slowey) this caused severe reprisals that included sending the player down. So you can understand if the player is reluctant to report pain for fear of putting himself in the doghouse.

Neshek is an interesting case on both sides. He told them about the elbow right away and they waited to do the MRI, dismissing it as a “mild strain”. The MRI revealed a partial tear. He did everything the team asked in the way of rehab. Ultimately, he blew the elbow out and needed surgery nine months after the partial tear was diagnosed.

The next time he had an owie on his hand, he didn’t want to tell them about it because they had discouraged reporting every problem in the past. But this time, they got mad that he tried to pitch through it without telling them at first. So he was damned if he told them and damned if he didn’t.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Aug 10, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly

Teams that tell players to ‘tough it out’ like the Mets and Twins, invariably have a larger problem in the end.

by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 10, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...

Grant Balfour is another case, btw. The team basically put him in the doghouse for being a “baby” and “whining” about pain. And lo and behold, he was hurt. Got healthy and became dominant again elsewhere.

by DJSkillz on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that's a regional thing.

Growing up in Greater MN, you were a baby if you stayed home when you were sick even though that’s the best policy for yourself and those around you.

by MNPundit on Aug 10, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A "slight" UCL tear

Is not good, and will need UCL Replacement surgery very soon…. he should get the surgery as this keeps coming up and is “a failure of conservative treatment”

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Aug 11, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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