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My Stab at the 2012 Twins Roster
Yes the Minnesota Twins have flunked out of the 2011 Race and have done so to the point that we have had long losing streaks and lost games in blowout fashion, the most famous being a game to the Texas Rangers where Michael Cuddyer becomes a pitcher and pitched in the bottom of the 8th inning of a massive blowout. Of course, we have had injuries galore to the point that our chief had to whip out his medical journal for research purposes. With that said, I am proud to present a modest look at the 2012 Twins Roster. I will explain after the jump.
Pitchers
For the most part, I am not done with departures yet. Our major trade this season will likely involve Carl Pavano. In this scenario, I am trading him to Colorado for Pitcher Huston Street. Also involved in the trade would be us sending Drew Butera to the Rockies for minor league outfielder Willy Taveras. This deal will have us picking up $1.5 million of Pavano's 2012 Salary and Street's $9 million option for 2013. The result is a good second or third starter for the Twins.
The other main addition to the Twins 2012 roster will be Yu Darvish from Japan. He is considered an ace pitcher in a hitters league and should thrive at Target Field. I can see the Twins bidding $25 million for posting rights (not included in payroll), and then signing him to a four year and $32 million deal worth $8 million per year. This isn't us shafting him because his current salary is worth almost $4 million USD. Finally, Francisco Liriano gets a raise to about $5 million with incentives including one where he is World Series MVP.
In the bullpen, the additions are Deolis Guerra and Kerry Wood who I will sign for a year at $4.5 million. As for Joe Nathan, I have him pegged for $3.5 million for 2012. Here is how I suspect the rotation and bullpen will shake out next year.
Rotation
1. Yu Darvish
2. Huston Street
3. Scott Baker
4. Kevin Slowey
5. Francisco Liriano
Bullpen
Brian Duensing, Nick Blackburn, Glen Perkins, Alex Burnett, Deolis Guerra, Kerry Wood (Setup man), Joe Nathan (Closer).
Catcher
Despite the bad news on Joe Mauer and the 2.5 months (roughly) that followed, we did have fun with the position because Minnesota catchers were hitting worse than all National League pitchers, and we got to enjoy some time with STEVE HOLM!!!!!!!!!!! Regardless, There will not be any real change unless Justin Morneau is forced to retire. Thus, Joe Mauer and Rene Rivera are your catchers for 2012 with Jair Fernandez waiting in the wings at Rochester.
Infield
This position is influx due to Justin Morneau's health, but there are some minor changes. For the most part, the Twins will likely lose the services of Michael Cuddyer. However the main infield addition would be Houston's Clint Barmes whom I sign via free agency with a 4 year, $60 million deal worth $15 million per year. Outside of Darvish, this would be my big spurge. He can play both short and second with him maybe trying first during spring training. I think this is likely close to the final contract that Michael Cuddyer could sign with the Twins and provide reasoning for Joe Nathan to accept the buyout and redo his contract.
Outfield
Again, not much change since we are likely to see the likes of Trevor Plouffe and Rene Tosoni in our 2012 plans. However, we do need a reliable bat and my pick is Andrew Jones from the Yankees. The reason for this is because we need the DH now that we don't have Jim Thome (Thanks for your time in a Twins uniform, we loved it), and we can use some good defensive backup in the outfield. He would be signed to a $10 million contract over two years with $4 million in 2012 and an increase to $6 million the following year.
Opening Day Lineup and bench
1. Denard Span, CF
2. Trevor Plouffe, RF
3. Joe Mauer, C
4. Justin Morneau, 1B
5. Andrew Jones, DH
6. Danny Valencia, 3B
7. Clint Barmes, 2B
8. Alexi Casilla, SS
9. Rene Tosoni, LF
Reserves: Rene Rivera, C; Tsuyoshi Nishioka, IF; Luke Hughes, IF; Ben Revere, OF
Summary
So how much did I spend on this roster? How about $116,190,000. This is right in line with what management expects to spend on the 2012 roster. I followed the guidelines on what to spend in which management wanted an ace and we have one in Yu Darvish. We also added Huston Street to the rotation which is the result of the Pavano trade, and we added Kerry Wood to help shore up our bullpen. In the lineup, we added both Andrew Jones and Clint Barmes. Barmes is our infield signing that will help shore up that part of lineup defensive wise while Jones adds a veteran presence in the outfield. Granted Rome wasn't built in a day much like a world champion isn't built in one offseason. Most Twins fans will recall that the core that won the 1987 World Series started appearing in Twins games in 1981 they needed a managerial change as Ray Miller was brought in to replace Billy Gardener and then Tom Kelly brought in to replace Ray Miller. Regardless, the changes made represent our best chance at competing in 2012. We might not win a world title, but this team would give us a better chance to at least compete with the AL East and West. What do you think? I would love to hear your comments below.
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I will eat a hat if the posting fee on Darvish is only $25 Million.
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ill take Edwin jackson and that pitcher oakland tried to sign from japan
My understanding is that he is a free agent now, no posting fee involved.
Rotation for next year
Pavano
Baker
Jackson
Japan guy
Blackburn
I don’t see Liriano coming back and Duensing moved back to the pen and be used like Perkins
by RaysOfHope on Aug 31, 2011 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't see Liriano coming back?
Why?
He figures to have a bounceback year next year since his innings haven’t been crazy out of control this year, finally. I suspect he’s had a dead arm all this year because of that massive innings jump from 2009 to 2010 (136 to 250, including winter ball). His velocity has been down about 2 mph this year and his control has obviously been off, the two biggest warning signs for an injury. People have talked about Ubaldo Jimenez being hurt all year because of the same signs, but barely a peep has been said about Liriano in that regard (until he hit the DL now). That’s perplexing to me.
Also, any rotation that includes Nick Blackburn in it...
and Pavano at the top, for that matter, is a bad plan.
I agree on Blacky
He’s had ample opportunity to step up and show he belongs in a MLB rotation and has not done it. It could be due to injuries, but he’s been quite bad the last 2 years. The extension he got was a real bad idea. I would shop him or try him in the pen. He and Duensing are not MLB caliber starters.
Yep, exactly my point...
For 2 years running he’s been one of the very worst starters in the entire game. That’s not cutting it. We can and should do better if we want to consider ourselves contenders. I think Blacky could do okay on an NL club as a 4th/5th starter, and that’s where I’d look first. I don’t think his stuff works well in the pen, so I’d try to deal him to an NL team for a decent reliever and save some payroll money in the process. We probably have to pick up a chunk of his remaining contract in any deal, but I’d do that.
Duensing I think is valuable…..as a reliever. I think his splits make it clear he’s just not starter material full-time. Righties hit him better than Albert Pujols, and 3/4 of the batters he faces are righties. He can be a valuable piece in the bullpen and as an occasional spot starter IMO.
Huston Street
The Twins do like to have the established closer TM but I doubt they will add one to the rotation.
by Pedro Munoz is fast on Aug 31, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it's awesome...
…that we’ll be converting an established closer into a starting pitcher. Awesome
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Aug 31, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Holy crap
I wasn’t even paying attention and missed that little nugget.
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This is pretty darn good comedy, Jessy
I don’t think anyone on this site is capable of such dry humor!
by twinscrazy_german on Aug 31, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I still think we should try, * somehow *
..to get Willie Bloomquist,. He’s such a “Twins Way” kind of guy.
Jesse S, please find a way!
I always loved that one.
Please don't stab the 2012 Twins roster
They have enough problems as it is.
by DJL44 on Aug 31, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
blackburn makes 4.5 M next year, which i think rules him out for bullpen
I want to see Guerra in september badly. I like oliveros so far. Wood loves the cubs for some reason so he most likely will stay there, I wish we could get him
by RaysOfHope on Aug 31, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is the Funny post of the day
only half serious post of the day
Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 AM EDT reply actions
1. 2.5 Million buyout of Nathan, therefore you’re 3.5Million would actually be 6.0 Millinon while I hope this IS THE approach the Twins take I’m thinking 7.0 Million over two years 14Million so essentially 9.5M will go to Nathan for 2012.
2. Yu Darvish is not coming to the Twins
3. Carl Pavano is not going to net Huston Street, they dont’ need Butera they have Morales, Rosario and a slough of catchers
Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 1, 2011 2:34 AM EDT reply actions
Ohhh and as for the pole
“Mark Buerhle " is who i’d want
Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 1, 2011 2:35 AM EDT reply actions
I doubt the twins spend more than $90 mil
In an article from the strib, Twins brass is trying to convince the fans that theyre convinced revenue will be less than this year because the novelty of a new stadium wears off, THUS resulting in a smaller payroll. Again, I pray that this will not be the case.
All the scuttlebutt is that Anderson and Gardy are done with Franky
I don’t think he comes back next year.
I hope that's not true...
would be beyond stupid to trade him or give up on him now. He’s at a low value point and he’s going into a contract year next year; plus, the Twins just don’t have many good starting options. Baker and Slowey may be the only 2 other than Frankie for 2012, with Pavano as more of a 4th/5th starter option with his declining stuff. The Twins are to blame for mismanaging Liriano and his innings throughout his career:
Delaying surgery on TJ in the first place.
200 innings in his first year back, in 2008. Which is just ridiculous.
136 innings with a dead arm (unsurprisingly) in 2009.
Up to 250 innings, with winter ball, in 2010.
Not surprisingly, dead arm, loss of velocity and control, and a DL stint this year, after that innings jump.
It’s criminal how he’s been handled. But for the first time in 5 years, Cisco should be fully ready to go next year with no insane workload on him in 2011.
by DJSkillz on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep...
it’s just so perplexing to me, especially with the Twins. This is an organization that has babied pitchers for the most part with pitch counts, etc. Yet they have managed the guy they labeled “The Franchise” this poorly, for 6 years now. I don’t get it.
Rene Tosoni in LF and Ben Revere on the bench?
"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez
nor should they...
not at $100M. Outbidding the Yankees (which they’ll have to do IMO) should never be an option you take.
Ick...
If we sign Buehrle, I may renounce my fandom.
There’s not a player in the sport that I hate more.
Are you kidding me?
even after all the crap he’s spewed about the Twins over the years? He HATES the Twins. And the feelings mutual towards him.
I also think he’s highly overrated as a pitcher.
Mark Girly is an absolute bitch, and I want him nowhere near the Twins.
he's also not something we need, really...
he’s more of a #3 pitcher on a really good team IMO. We need a #1 AND Liriano to return to form.
He's probably a little too old to bring in to be the "ace"
But I’d approve bringing him in.
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Gross.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"I am laughing right now. Am I insane?" Jessy S
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Sep 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The 2012 Twins roster
will look like the 2011 Red Wings roster + Danny Valencia, plus maybe Joe Mauer for 40 games and Scott Baker for half a season. I plan on saving some heartbreak next year by having a “building year” mindset..
by 6 of 10 interviewed on Sep 1, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
Borg
You will never assimilate us!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"I am laughing right now. Am I insane?" Jessy S
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Sep 3, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No Valencia
Gardy will see to that.
"bobpuller" – arch-enemy of all SSSers and a twinktown troll. There are many meanings to this phrase and none of them are good.
Fielder or pujols?
The twins need a power bat but are going to have to pay for it.
:)
my vote is on Fielder simply because he’s younger
Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 5, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

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