"I call it a Gardy Day."
Twins manager Ron Gardenhire benched third baseman Danny Valencia on Sunday.
Asked if it was a "Danny Day," meaning a chance for Valencia to get a breather, the manager said, "I call it a Gardy Day."
Gardenhire said this tongue-in-cheek, during his pregame media session, but insiders say the team's dissatisfaction with Valencia is growing.
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I can hardly blame them
He looks totally disinterested in the field. Seems like the type of guy that might require additional motivation. Maybe bench him for a couple games.
Is it just me,
or is DannyV’s optimistic quote at the end a reflection of just how careless he’s been about defense? Kid needs to know that if he’s not careful someone will take his place…Tolbert? Plouffe? Really the only competition for 3B is Mauer or a spot start by The Cuddler…and DannyV knows it. Call up Sano??? Yikes not a lot of options…
I have to agree that he has been looking pretty horrible lately.
I think being the bench warmer a couple of games couldn’t hurt, and seeing other guys playing third might make him want to show he can do just as well. Danny has his mind on something else while he’s fielding, its quite obvious. He just needs to focus. He has a great arm, but seems to forget it almost sometimes and rush his throws when if he took one more second to set his feet beneath him, he’d get the out instead of throwing it errantly to first. He really needs to step it up in the field.
I called Thome's 596th home run! BOOM! :D
The offense...whatever, there's an adjustment period to the majors and he's struggling and whatever.
But defense should translate well from AAA to the majors, and he seems to have really regressed in that area this year.
Do we have anyone we can play at 3rd other than Tolbert? I don’t like the idea of sitting him punitively when it’s going to hurt the team not having him out there. Then again, the weekend’s sweep effectively ended any postseason hope so maybe making a point is worth it.
Sitting "him" as in Valencia.
I is gud @ engrish.
Send down Revere and bring him up?
I really like Revere, but we don’t need to carry 6 outfielders.
Also, I have no understanding of the options and call-up system, so I don’t know the long-term implications of bringing Hughes up again.
Repko still has an option, too
And I don’t think he has played since Span has come back. But yeah, they don’t need 6 of them.
I'd be cool with either, but I feel Revere would benefit more than Repko being in AAA.
Repko’s running out of upside (to put it generously).
Yeah, if they aren't going to play Ben everyday in left then I agree
Let him play everyday for the rest of the month and then bring him back up.
You have one option a year
A player can go up or down multiple times in the same year and it’s still only the one option. Hughes’ option was used when he didn’t make the team out of spring training and was optioned to Rochester.
I think the long term implications of bouncing between the bigs and AAA in the same season has more to do with service time and when you’d go to arbitratrion for the first time.
Seems like we have more to be worried about
Shortstop, backup catcher, second base, set-up relief,… etc. He hasn’t played that well. But he’s not the reason we’re losing.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
true enough, but his defense isn't helping us win either.
The offseason is the tiem to worry about those shortcomings, but getting Valencia right on defense is something that can be handled this year.
Yes, they should deal with it
Not sure about the methods, but maybe he needs a kick in the pants.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Name them
He has committed errors, but so have Cuddyer, Butera, Revere, and others. Not sure his errors are the sole reason we lost those games.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Can't.
But I remember saying “he lost us the game” on at least two occasions and I meant it literally.
The closest I recall was his error on Saturday
That led to two runs, and we lost by three. Earlier in the week, Cuddyer made an error at second that led to two runs and we lost by one.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I think the best way to get Danny's Defense in check...
…Is to publically call him on it in the media. That seems much easier than speaking to him privately. Plus it worked for Nishi when Gardy publically called him out on his poor defense.
Seriously though, maybe this style of player management is effective, but to me it reeks of favoritism. Some players seem to get called out all the time in the media and others always seem to always get a pass. And BTW, what exactly is ‘looking disinterested’ anyway? It makes sense to be on Valencia’s case about any mental errors, but it doesn’t look like he’s dogging it out there, he’s just got a poker face 95% of the time. That’s just the way he looks.
if you've paid attention this is Gardy's tactic with all young players
he did it to Cuddy
Bartlett
Young
Casilla
Gomez
Kubel
Harris
Hunter
Morneau
Jones
Those are just the players i remember off the top of my head i’m sure there are more. The only players that i don’t beleive he has dogged on when they first came up is Span and Mauer, but i maybe i’m not rembering right.
Looking disinterested is a subjective term, that is the appearance i get from him at times in the field. Maybe i’m wrong, but its my subjective opinion. Maybe a better word would be unmotivated.
I don't know
I’m sure he’s done a lot of back slapping, too. He said a lot of nice things about Valencia last year and Joe C reported earlier this year that Gardy is hard on Valencia (as opposed to Tolbert) b/c Gardy thinks Valencia can be an all-star at 3rd.
The doghouse has been extra-full this year.
At what point do you look at the terrible play of this team and start thinking that it’s just too damn common to be each guy’s fault individually? Where does the buck stop? With Gardy, it always seems to stop with his players. He can banish them to the doghouse, or the minors, or the Rays, or the Orioles, but somehow the team continues to degrade.
It’s time for change at the top.
So it's Gardy's fault Valencia has had 16 errors so far this year then?
These FIRE GARY!!1 comments are getting old.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"There is absolutely no connection between me, Emo Phillips, and 'emo' music." -Emo Phillips
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he get credit for all the winning seasons then?
In my view, the team has been horrible this year mostly because of
1) injuries. I know it’s boring to say that but a healthy Mauer, Morneau, Kubel and Span add quite a few wins to this team.
2) Bad years by Capps, Mijares and Burnett. If those 3 had pitched closer to how (I think) the team expected, the pen woudn’t have been a huge problem.
3) Young and Valencia under performing. Neither are even close to the worst starters (hello Nishi) but I’ve gotta think the Twins were expecting a lot more stability from those two righties.
I don’t think anyone being in some imaginary doghouse has really been the problem. Valencia still leads the team in starts and Slowey and Mijares worked to put themselves in the doghouse. Blaming Gardy seems silly.
This season
Is directly releated to the off season.
Not may teams can ditch 4 solid bullpen guys and their entire MI and expect to be competitive.
Want to make someone accountable?
It would be Bill Smith
by clutterheart on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it should be both.
there is no way anyone can make me believe that gardy’s fingerprints aren’t all over many of these moves. Chief among them the Hardy move and the Ramos move.
NO WAY Gardy didn’t have a major hand in both of those.
I think you're right
My sense is Smith does not have enough credibility in the FO to insist that Gardy use the players he chooses. So Gardy says, “I don’t like player A, I want you to find me a replacement.” Smith does what he can to comply with the request.
I think this goes back to the Delmon trade. Gardy said he didn’t like Bartlett or Garza. So he asked Smith to trade them for a bat who can replace Hunter.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
exactly...
Then you have his comments about Ramos’ defense and Gardy always wanting a “proven closer” and gushing about Capps when we first got him.
And you have his comments about “speed in the MI” wrt Hardy.
Seriously, Gardy’s fingerprints are all over this team. There’s just no way he hasn’t been at least a MAJOR voice in these trades, so I can’t put ALL blame on Bill Smith.
I think Gardy was behind some of the Span rumors
Gardy has gone out of his way to praise Revere, saying stuff like, “there’s a lot more to baseball than numbers” and “his smile is worth a lot more than his hits.”
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by cmathewson on Aug 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a big reason why people who want change in management want to dump Gardenhire
He’s become too involved in the personnel decisions of the Twins, and more often than not, his opinions about changes to make have led to downgrades in talent.
by WolvesFan03 on Aug 10, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You would think Smith would get some leverage from the fallout
None of “Gardy’s” moves have worked. You think Bill Smith would tell him to shove it – they win when he gets good ballplayers.
Yes
You would think. But Gardy is a force to be reckoned with.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Danny Valencia
Danny is the least of their problems. It starts at the top with Bill Smith then Gardy and then the coaching staff. They are the ones who need to be in the dog house.
Why is there talk about Danny? I would think that Nishi and Mauer would be the ones who are being spoken about. They are very expensive and performing poorly. Nishi should not be in the majors. Mauer paid too much for too little.
Gardy is a fool to demean a hard working player who wants nothing more than to help the team win. For all of your fools out there who write as if you know him and his attitude, you don’t. Danny is a great kid who works hard and always has. Errors are a part of the game. He won them more games then he lost for them. How about those pitchers who keep them out in the field for so long? You want to rag on people, rag on the staff and the pitching. Then you can work your way down to Danny.
so Gardy made him throw that ball over 6'5" Joe Mauer the other night?
Did Bill Smith force him to miss that easy throw from Butera the next night?
Errors are a part of the game. Correct.
Mental errors happen from time to time. Correct.
A trend of mental errors needs to be addressed. Correct.
Some of the errors were made on throws that Morneau would have caught if he were playing first base. Gardy did not make him throw over Mauer’s head. Danny owned up to it and probably feels badly as does anyone who makes an error. However, let’s put this in perspective. He is handling the pressure pretty well. He comes into a game in the 9th inning, with two outs and you all expect him to hit a 7 run homerun. I think he is good under pressure and his track record speaks to that.
Stats say he's struggling, and I'm inclined to believe them.
The Twins have plenty of problems, but to say Danny isn’t one of them requires some powerful rose-colored glasses.
He's having problems
But he’s down on the list of guys having problems. Here’s how I would rank our top 10, exempting injuries (including Baker):
- Nishioka
- Blackburn
- Capps
- Liriano
- Duensing
- Butera
- Mijares
- Second base (Plouffe, Cuddyer, ?)
- Revere
- Valencia
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Butera isn't having "problems"
He just isn’t very good. There’s a difference.
The problem is he's played in 61 games with an OPS+ of 31
Not to mention 4 Es and 4 PBs.
My assumption is, they will use the rest of this year figuring stuff out for next year. That’s the point, right? Is Valencia the right guy to start at third next year?
Butera is high on the list for offseason replacement. Of the rest of the list, their roles might change going into 2011 if they stay with the team. Valencia is the least likely player to change roles of those on the list.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Good point
He should be ahead of Danny on the list of things to worry about.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
by WAR (bb-ref)
Nishioka -1.6
Blackburn -0.3
Capps 0.3
Liriano 0.1
Duensing 0.7
Butera -0.6
Mijares -0.7
Second base (Plouffe, Cuddyer, ?) -0.8; 3.1
Revere 0.7
Valencia -0.7
Duensing doesn’t belong on this list, he’s doing fine for the 4/5 starter that he was asked to be.
And I know why you have the second base line in there, its a problem that we haven’t had good play from that position, but you really can’t blame those guys for not being good there – they’re trying to fill in for an injured starter. Same with Revere, he’s an injury call-up replacement, not a MLB starter.
Valencia is a 2.6 point swing down from 2010, when he was worth 1.9 wins.
I struggle with where to put Butera on the list. On one hand, he’s just a backup catcher, so if your starting pitchers and bullpen are falling apart (closer should be worth 2-3 wins, LOOGY worth 1-2 wins), why blame the catcher who only comes in off the bench? On the other hand, he’s taking up a roster spot just like the other 24 guys, so he ought to be producing value for the squad too. I’m inclined to follow the latter – if you’re taking up a roster spot, you’d better be able to provide more value to the club than acceptable defense and awful offense when the starting catcher can’t play. Backing up a corner IF position, ability to fill in at DH when everyone else is beat up or at least pinch hit on occasion are not too much to ask from a backup catcher.
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Aug 9, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
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Blackburn and Duensing have fallen off the table. Nishi’s negative numbers are more alarming ‘cause they’ve come in far fewer games. Revere is the most surprising number, considering his OPS+ is 70 and he has made six errors in limited play. I doubt Cuddyer would have a 3.6 WAR if he played second base every day.
If Butera were just a back-up catcher, it would be less of a problem. But he has started in almost half the games. Back-up catchers are like back-up quarterbacks. They need to be good enough to start if needed. Butera is not good enough to start more than 20 games a year without harming the team. And there again, I have a hard time understanding how he could only be a -0.6 with a 31 OPS+, eight run producing negative plays and a 32% throw out rate.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I would push Liriano and Duensing farther down the list
And 1 and 8 are pretty much the same problem.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"There is absolutely no connection between me, Emo Phillips, and 'emo' music." -Emo Phillips
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And by the way,
Bill Smith brought us Nishi. Enough said.
Kevin Slowey punished because he doesn’t want to do relief. Well, how about if you were hired to drive a truck and you get to your job and you are told, now you load the truck. They should shut up about there players because all they do is lower their value. Is it any wonder why we don’t do any trades? Who is going to buy what we are trashing? Genius front office.
A lot of baseball people would say...
…that it’s the poor defense behind the pitchers that keep them on the field for so long.
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Aug 8, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And, it’s all Danny’s errors keeping them out there? How about all the meatballs that are thrown that keep them out there? How about those fat pitches? Danny is not the only one making errors. I wish our guys got pitches down broadway.
Let’s hope tonight is a good night and move on.
are you Valencia's agent? ;)
His defense hasn’t been sound – big step back from last year, actually.
OBP of .290 doesn’t cut it either – not from a 3rd baseman with 12 HR at this point of the season. Given we’re 2/3 the way through the season, that’s unlikely to improve much.
Valencia’s not the only one who’s taken a step back this year.
There are 13 thirdbasemen who’ve played enough this year to be considered “qualified” for the batting title. Valencia is 10th in batting average, 11th in OBP, 9th in slugging & 10th in OPS.
The 13 don’t include guys like Sandoval, Rodriquez, Zimmerman, Wright & Longoria, all of whom would be ahead of him if they “qualified.”
Look around MLB at the lineups of teams who are in contention – where would Valencia be starting?
Not Boston; not New York; probably not Detroit or LA; not Philly; Milwaukee he’d have a shot; San Francisco, no; Arizona, no.
While a team can win with a 3B playing at Valencia’s 2011 level, it would have to do it by overcoming the lack of production at the position vis a vis the competition.
The Yankees, Red Sox & Phillies could do it. The Brewers could win their division – that’s about it.
We’re “set” at two whole positions next year – catcher & CF (assuming Span shows no ill effects from the concussion going forward). If Morneau comes back & shows he’s regaining his form by the end of the year, then we’ll have 3 positions we can “like.” Everywhere else, we have issues.
Plus 5 issues on the pitching staff & the bullpen …
A lot of baseball people would also say
When your pitching staff throws the least Ks in the Bigs, then that means the logical corollary of more balls in play is more hits.
The problem is the pitching staff sucks. Starts and relievers both. They put too much pressure on the defense because they can’t miss bats, can’t avoid walks like they used to, and generally get smacked around like dead fish.
Yes, the defense is hurting as well. I said in Spring losing both Hardy and Hudson was dumb. But if we had a pitching staff that could miss bats at the major league average even, it would take a good deal of pressure off the defense.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 8, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"pressure off the defense"
It goes both ways. Pitching could take pressure off the defense by missing more bats, but the pitchers are constantly under pressure and in the stretch since they defense keeps giving outs away behind them.
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Aug 8, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
More balls in play
Means more chances to screw up, as well as conceding more hits.
Recalculate the Twins defense for even a Major League Average in Ks, and see where it’d be.
No, they wouldn’t be great. But bad pitching feeds into bad defense. Just like good pitching can often cover for bad defense.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 9, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Recalculate the Twins pitching for a league average defense.
It goes both ways. 83 extra outs on errors so far that pitchers were responsible to get again, not counting missed double plays that can’t be counted as errors. Bad defense & bad pitching just makes for bad baseball. Its impossible to blame a bad season on 1 statistic in the field.
"...and we'll see ya tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, Game 6, 1991 World Series
by WindyCityTwinsFan on Aug 9, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
There's plenty of blame to spread around
Honestly, a team can’t play this bad if only one aspect of pitching / defense / hitting is bad.
Not saying the defense isn't bad
I was on the “Why are you trading Hardy” bandwagon all offseason. And I predicted debacle in the MI then.
But the FO made that bed, and thought they had the people to plug the holes. Injuries also took a toll on the defense to be sure.
But the pitching: there was no excuse for going into this season with a worse pitching staff than last season and expecting similar results. Honestly, if the pitching would’ve been stable, even MLB avg, and the starters moderately healthy instead of injury hell, then the defense would’ve been ‘fine.’ Not great. But certainly not dreadful.
But between the dreadful pitching and the wave of injuries, you couldn’t expect the defense to hold up. One of those could not be controlled (though one has to note that if they have the same injury problems 2 years in a row, then perhaps there’s a training staff issue that needs to be addressed as WELL).
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
Apparently only one problem can be focused on at a time? I don’t get all these ’isn’t the worst problem’ comments. Regardless of everything else, Valencia has been playing poor defense. This is indeed a problem, and Gardy is attempting to address it, just like I’m sure he’s intending to address other problems in their own way. Is he perfect? No. But he’s a heck of a lot better than other managers out there.
I think singling out Danny is weak.
The MI is awful as well, and that was entirely preventable.
Let’s be honest, the only places we have a major league average defender right now are CF and Catcher. Singling our Valencia is pointless, because you’d have to bench the other 7 as well.
But that doesn’t abrogate what I said above. A bit part of the problem is too much pressure on our defense. There’s been too little emphasis on missing bats for too long.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 8, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes
The big problem people have with Gardenhire singling out Valencia in particular is that it comes off as arbitrary and classic Gardenhire favoritism at play.
Blackburn has been unwatchable for over a month now, but yet we’ve still got Slowey buried in AAA and nothing akin to this sort of public criticism of Blackburn. Guys like Young, Tolbert, and Nishioka have all been as bad or worse than Valencia overall.
I’m not even a particularly big fan of Valencia, but I’m tired of seeing the club’s personnel choices driven by personality, especially when it seems like every third guy ends up in Gardenhire’s doghouse at one point or another.
When Gardy 1st took over
Its was (supposedly) good for the young players because TK was too much of a task master for the young players to handle any more. He had grown too ‘stubborn’ to develop young players.
I think it’s safe to say that at this point, Gardy has lost the patience to manage young players, IF he ever had it.
So yes, I think it’s time for Smith to go for the dreadful choices he’s made the past 2 offseasons, and Gardy to be thanked for his services and released at the end of the year.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 9, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You're only halfway there
If you want to replace Gardenhire you’d better have an alternative lined up. Gardy is in the upper half of major league managers. You can’t replace him with just anyone.
Why not?
Gardy maybe ‘upper half’ normally. But there comes a point when any manager’s shtick runs thin. TK’s did, and he knew when to walk away. Gardy’s is starting too. And the team looks honestly like they’re non-responsive to him. At that point, you have to make a change.
As for ‘with whom’? I’d say, “Can we see who’s available in the offseason?” Name an interim manager, see if they respond, and then decide.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 9, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Gardy's not going anywhere.
Neither is Bill Smith.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"There is absolutely no connection between me, Emo Phillips, and 'emo' music." -Emo Phillips
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't mean they shouldn't.,
You ‘might’ be able to give Gardy a pass for the injuries. But to me it looks like this team has checked out on him, and that’s death to a manager.
But you can’t give Smith a pass for dismantling a playoff team in a single offseason and then not having the courage to even TRY to either fix things or admit the season was lost at the deadline.
At the very least, he should be placed very, very far from anything resembling personnel decisions in the future.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 9, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
Because you might end up with someone worse. In fact, you’ll probably end up with someone worse. Every year teams hire managers worse than Ron Gardenhire.
If the team has tuned him out
And Gardy is influencing Personnel decisions that are making the team worse (and it’s clear to many of us he is).
Then having a MLB average manager who DOESN"T muck up the lineup is a wash. Having a MLB manager who the players will respect again is MORE than a wash.
Sometimes the team needs to ring the changes. Maybe the talent of said manager won’t be as good. Ozzie Guillen is convinced he can’t change a game, yet his teams (in the past) won for him. His shtick has run dry too, I’d say. But at some point a manager has to know when they’ve worn out their welcome. It’s not as simple as “This guy is above average, keep him.” There comes a time when the team just doesn’t care what he says anymore.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 11, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you basing this, "the team has tuned him out," on?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"There is absolutely no connection between me, Emo Phillips, and 'emo' music." -Emo Phillips
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
General lack of enthusiasm
And that no manager can stay in one place forever. The harder he plays his shtick, the quicker it gets old. TK, for all his gruff-edges, could be even keel for long stretches. Gardy isn’t. And honestly, the more you’re hot iron all the time, the less time it takes to burn out with a club.
Also, he’s ‘always’ needed a bench coach. And not Ullger.
by Shawn Gillogly on Aug 11, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
Nothing more than your perception then.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"There is absolutely no connection between me, Emo Phillips, and 'emo' music." -Emo Phillips
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Aug 11, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Valencia's decline this year
might be just one of the results of putting forth an infield without any veteran presence. (Alexi doesn’t count) Last year they brought in Hudson and Hardy, the year before Orlando Cabrera, etc. Most of us expected some drop in Danny’s numbers his sophomore season, but not this bad. A veteran might have given the infield some kind of stability. Just as winning and good play is contagious, losing and bad play seems to be as well. Somebody needed to be the guy who said “Enough. This kind of sloppy play is unacceptable!” Hard for a second year player to do. Danny should have been continuing to learn this year. Instead he has been one of the few players who conditioned themselves to play a whole season and has been expected to be a leader. He needs to take responsibility for his mistakes to be sure, and I dearly hope he can regain his form next year, but the biggest culprit in the debacle that this season has become is the Twins’ FO for their poor decision-making.
The other teams could make trouble for us if they win. — Yogi Berra
Really, Danny? Tweeting about a silly rap concert 90 minutes before a game?
http://twitter.com/dannyvalencia19/status/101421836457349120
Danny, you’re OPS is .670. Go watch some video.
You're right, he can never get back the few seconds he spent on that tweet
"Nobody wants to hear me rap." - Joe Mauer
"METEOR" - JIM THOME
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Aug 11, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
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