Indians 6, Twins 5: Everybody Hurts
'Cause everybody hurts. Take comfort in your friends
Everybody hurts. Don't throw your hand. Oh, no. Don't throw your hand
If you feel like you're alone, no, no, no, you are not alone
- R.E.M., Everybody Hurts -
It's becoming easier to make a list of who's healthy as opposed to who isn't. Danny Valencia and Rene Tosoni were unavailable today, and then Jason Repko was hit in the head in the sixth inning and had to be taken to Hennepin County Medical Center. CT scans have shown that he'll be fine, but it was a scary moment. Justin Masterson clearly wasn't looking to hit Repko in the head, and after Jason you know Justin feels worse about it than anyone else.
For most of the game it looked like the Twins were on the verge of snapping this latest losing streak. Carl Pavano was racking up strikeouts and allowed just three hits through six, when Minnesota led 3-0. Naturally things completely fell apart. A lost opportunity to end the seventh on a close call on a could-have-been double play, and then bases loaded walks from Jose Mijares and Alex Burnett completely blew it. The fourth run of the inning was a broken-bat, dribbing, infield single from Jim Thome.
Here's the thing, though. We know the Minnesota bullpen is astonishingly terrible. We know that everyone and their mother is hurt or sick or otherwise unavailable. And we also know that this season is lost. So after the jump, we'll focus on the positive.
Parmelee was 2-for-5 with a run scored and a double today, meaning that after his first ten games he's batting .364/.447/.515. Nine of those ten games have been starts, and he's collected hits in eight of them. And it's not like they're all coming off fastballs, either. His first five hits came off a curveball, two cutters, a sinker and a slider. In that order. Since then he's picked up another seven hits (five fastballs, two changeups, not in that order).
He's tallied a couple of doubles, and his home run yesterday was the lone bright spot in a world of suck. Just as interesting as all those hits and flashing a little bit of power, is the fact that he's struck out four times...and walked five.
I'm not trying to tell anyone that Parmelee is the next great thing, but in his first ten games he's looked pretty good. And depening on what happens this winter between signings, trades, and health of one or two key players, we just might see Parmelee make an impact very early next year.
Dinkelman's batting average on balls in play may be a bit over his head, but he's shown a willingness to wait for a good pitch. He picked up a big RBI single today on the eighth pitch of his third plate appearance. His most valuable asset may be his ability to play a number of positions both in the infield and outfield.
On this team, where on any given day any seven players may be staving off death, being able to plug him into the lineup where he's needed is one of the few luxuries available to Ron Gardenhire.
He doesn't have the sexy triple slash that Parmelle has, and he continues to make his share of mistakes, but more importantly he doesn't look like he's being railroaded. At times he does look overmatche, but you expect that from rookies. Since going hitless in his first three games, Benson is 10-for-27 (.370)...albeit with eight strikeouts and no walks.
What is impressive about Benson is what's clearly some developing power. He looks like he can hit the ball, and he has twice as many extra base hits as Parmelee. Five doubles in ten games? I'll take that. Plus a triple. He's also shown flashes of the speed and range we've heard about. The Twins could do worse defensively next season than having Ben Revere, Denard Span, and Benson roaming the outfield.
Studs
DINKELMAN, Parmelee, Nathan, Dumatrait
Duds
Burnett, Mijares
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If I had more time
it would be interesting to go back and see who on the team had the most “Studs” and the most “Duds”, along with a +/- split for the year. Not that those awards are particularly objective, but still. I’m betting Mijares is in the running for most appearances.
It'll be interesting to see what we do with Dinkleman in 2012.
I don’t think he has a high ceiling, and therefore he might not lose out on development opportunities by being a super-utility player for the Twins next year (steady but unspectacular). If we pick up Cuddy and let Kubel go, I see him as possibly being the 4th outfielder for the team coming out of spring training. I think Benson and Revere both need everyday at-bats in AAA, but I think the Twins like Revere enough that he’ll be starting in LF next season.
Minor league free agent
They might sign him to play in Rochester again. He wasn’t all that good in AAA.
Can we just have Benson, Span and someone who isn’t Ben Revere. The kid is fun to watch, but he’s Juan Pierre.
by Brady Eyestone on Sep 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
one Juan Pierre is okay
The problem is having them at every position like they have now. Revere is a very good fielder.
Put it this way – I’d much rather have Revere than another year of Delmon Young.
He's Juan Pierre
but without a lot of the things that make Pierre a decent player…for example: I don’t think Revere should bat at the top of the order…ever
Hmmm.....needz moar winz
by NorthernStar on Sep 19, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish he was Juan Pierre
Juan Pierre use to hit over .300 with OBPs above .350, and even in his bad years has had an OBP around .330. Not great leadoff material, but with that glove and speed for steals and triples, that’s still a pretty valuable player to have around (especially when he’s not likely to hit leadoff when Denard’s healthy).
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Exactly.
From ’02 to ’10, FanGraphs gave him 27.3 WAR. He was a 2 to 4 win player in his 20s. He was a 2.8 win player last season, at 32.
Players with his skills don’t necessarily age well, but as long as Revere has his speed, if he can hit in the upper .200s he’ll have value. And if he can get that OBP into the .350-.360 range, he wouldn’t be a bad leadoff hitter either. I still think that’s a bit of a reach right now, but I’d gladly be proven wrong.
Check the OPS+
The hitting environments for 2011 Target Field and 2002 Coors Field couldn’t be more different. Pierre didn’t provide consistent offensive value until he was 25. Even then he alternates between 2 wins and replacement value depending on his batting average.
It's not just about his offense
Pierre’s OPS+ was indeed only above 100 once. So what? If he can provide an OBP above league average, he’s a useful player, because he steals a lot of bases, can stretch a single into a double or double into a triple with relative ease, and covers a ton of ground in the outfield (Pierre was never a greatly-regarded outfielder, but Revere has generally received rave reviews for his range).
I was wondering what the heck you were talking about when you mentioned Pierre’s WAR, but FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference differ wildly on Pierre’s value, mostly because of defense – UZR (what FanGraphs uses for defensive value) has him with a positive value most years, peaking around 14, while whatever B-R uses has him varying widely, from -16 to +19 runs in any given year. There’s a five-year stretch in which B-R has him extremely negative four of five years, with a +19 the other year.
Basically, how you interpret Pierre’s WAR depends on how much you value his defense. Offensively, though, he was a solid player – B-R has his offensive WAR values from age 23-29 as 2.0, 0.2, 2.8, 3.9, 1.5, 1.4, 0.7; not a world-beater, but not bad, either, especially (again) if it can be combined with good defense.
"There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
"Watched" this one via the out of town scoreboard at another ballpark
It seemed so promising… and then it wasn’t. Now to hear that there was yet another injury just puts the icing on the cake.
by ColossusOfRhode on Sep 18, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Studs - Target Field employees
Great experience today with my daughter despite the rain. She loved running the bases and a Target Field employee handed her a Tim Laudner card just as the FSN broadcast was wrapping up so she could get an autograph. Didn’t even matter that we were watching “Michael Cuddyer’s Rehab Experience” for a lineup, a day @ Target Field is a good time.
PS – given the options I would have left Pavano in the game.
Yes
My daughter had a great time as well! The employees really liked her Twins cheerleading outfit. We had to leave halfway through the game though because of the drizzle which turned into soaked pants which turned into feeling cold. My little 7-year-old had on full winter gear and lasted as long as she could though!
We were lucky
Seats were just under the overhang
THANK GOD FOR DINKELMAN.
A FUCKING MEN.
"It happened in the moment, and it happened." - Carlos Gomez
more like
D FUCKING MAN
first-worst-first?
by holymackerel on Sep 19, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad Repko isn't hurt
It sure looked bad. I wonder if some of Morneau’s concussion problems go back to that spring training beaning he took (from, I think, Dennis Reyes) years ago. We’re learning a lot these days about how long-lasting concussion effects can be.
Steve Goodman lives.
Don't speak so fast
There is this long-standing Twins tradition of saying everything is fine right away that concludes with the player undergoing five surgeries.
by DJL44 on Sep 19, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good to see Parmelee doing well
My brother in law, Matt, went to High School with him in Chino Hills, CA. One hell of an athlete. Hopefully this hot streak he is is on isn’t a fluke. Would love to see him do well in a Twins uniform.

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