What's Left For Bullpen Arms
Prior to this weekend, the Twins had only three real locks to play a prominent role in the 2012 bullpen. Love it or hate it (and I don't recall too many loving it), Matt Capps was signed to be the closer. Glen Perkins broke out as a dominant setup man in 2011, and Brian Duensing's deadly numbers against lefties make him well suited to be the pen's secondary southpaw.
Then the Twins, recognizing a lack of power arms and a lack of options against tough right-handers, signed Joel Zumaya. As Jesse pointed out, it's a great buy-low signing that carries very little risk. The problem is though, that the Twins still only have three real locks for the 2012 bullpen. Zumaya could dominate as he did in his rookie campaign, but the smart money is on him spending a great deal of time on the disabled list or perhaps not even making the club at all.
A nice addition to the bullpen in a best case scenario is good, but some stability is required as well. I've compiled a quick custom leaderboard over at Fangraphs that runs down the remaining free agent right-handed relievers and their splits against same-handed hitters over the past three seasons. We'll take a look at more after the jump.
| Name | Team | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | K% | BB% | AVG | WHIP | BABIP | LOB% | ERA | FIP | E-F | xFIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Peter Moylan | Braves | 9.08 | 2.55 | 3.57 | 0.25 | 25.8 % | 7.2 % | .213 | 1.05 | .288 | 79.4 % | 1.87 | 2.39 | -0.53 | 2.67 |
| Jason Isringhausen | - - - | 8.82 | 3.03 | 2.91 | 0.55 | 24.1 % | 8.3 % | .183 | 1.01 | .233 | 77.6 % | 2.48 | 3.07 | -0.59 | 3.90 |
| Taylor Buchholz | - - - | 9.26 | 2.70 | 3.43 | 0.77 | 26.4 % | 7.7 % | .181 | 0.94 | .228 | 84.2 % | 1.93 | 3.13 | -1.20 | 3.67 |
| Chad Qualls | - - - | 7.23 | 1.83 | 3.95 | 0.78 | 19.5 % | 4.9 % | .234 | 1.11 | .274 | 61.3 % | 4.18 | 3.25 | 0.93 | 3.30 |
| Todd Coffey | - - - | 7.61 | 1.95 | 3.90 | 0.78 | 21.2 % | 5.4 % | .222 | 1.05 | .265 | 70.6 % | 3.12 | 3.26 | -0.14 | 3.36 |
| Michael Wuertz | Athletics | 10.29 | 3.76 | 2.74 | 0.89 | 27.6 % | 10.1 % | .225 | 1.25 | .298 | 73.2 % | 3.66 | 3.36 | 0.30 | 3.31 |
| Dan Wheeler | - - - | 8.33 | 1.44 | 5.78 | 1.20 | 24.2 % | 4.2 % | .195 | 0.87 | .223 | 78.2 % | 2.88 | 3.46 | -0.58 | 3.39 |
| Tony Pena | - - - | 6.56 | 1.77 | 3.71 | 0.93 | 16.8 % | 4.5 % | .294 | 1.41 | .337 | 64.0 % | 4.96 | 3.60 | 1.36 | 3.74 |
| Ramon Ortiz | - - - | 6.75 | 2.17 | 3.11 | 0.96 | 19.1 % | 6.1 % | .203 | 0.99 | .226 | 66.9 % | 3.38 | 3.66 | -0.29 | 3.70 |
| Shawn Camp | Blue Jays | 6.14 | 2.07 | 2.97 | 0.71 | 17.1 % | 5.8 % | .238 | 1.10 | .272 | 73.7 % | 2.93 | 3.71 | -0.78 | 3.78 |
| Luis Ayala | - - - | 4.64 | 2.15 | 2.15 | 0.33 | 12.4 % | 5.8 % | .265 | 1.23 | .299 | 76.5 % | 2.82 | 3.72 | -0.91 | 4.43 |
| David Aardsma | Mariners | 8.85 | 3.48 | 2.54 | 1.02 | 25.4 % | 10.0 % | .162 | 0.95 | .189 | 54.9 % | 4.35 | 3.75 | 0.60 | 4.10 |
| Scott Linebrink | - - - | 7.73 | 2.96 | 2.61 | 1.24 | 19.9 % | 7.6 % | .269 | 1.38 | .314 | 81.0 % | 3.24 | 4.38 | -1.14 | 4.09 |
| Brad Lidge | Phillies | 9.55 | 3.88 | 2.46 | 1.38 | 24.4 % | 9.9 % | .246 | 1.38 | .301 | 67.1 % | 5.26 | 4.39 | 0.87 | 3.87 |
| Clay Hensley | Marlins | 7.26 | 3.06 | 2.38 | 1.15 | 18.8 % | 7.9 % | .239 | 1.26 | .272 | 73.1 % | 4.20 | 4.41 | -0.21 | 4.14 |
| Chad Durbin | - - - | 8.46 | 3.49 | 2.43 | 1.26 | 21.8 % | 9.0 % | .241 | 1.31 | .284 | 74.1 % | 4.38 | 4.47 | -0.09 | 4.18 |
| Danys Baez | - - - | 4.30 | 2.70 | 1.59 | 0.90 | 11.2 % | 7.0 % | .244 | 1.24 | .257 | 59.0 % | 5.30 | 4.62 | 0.68 | 4.40 |
| Jamey Wright | - - - | 5.31 | 3.86 | 1.38 | 0.86 | 13.1 % | 9.5 % | .272 | 1.50 | .300 | 73.3 % | 3.69 | 4.78 | -1.10 | 4.56 |
| Micah Owings | - - - | 6.66 | 3.44 | 1.94 | 1.31 | 17.6 % | 9.1 % | .231 | 1.25 | .252 | 66.9 % | 4.95 | 4.83 | 0.12 | 4.62 |
| Juan Cruz | - - - | 7.94 | 5.40 | 1.47 | 1.27 | 20.1 % | 13.7 % | .251 | 1.55 | .293 | 67.7 % | 5.56 | 4.93 | 0.63 | 5.09 |
| Jeremy Accardo | - - - | 5.77 | 4.72 | 1.22 | 1.31 | 13.9 % | 11.4 % | .343 | 1.92 | .381 | 74.6 % | 5.50 | 5.24 | 0.26 | 5.09 |
| Pat Neshek | - - - | 7.58 | 7.58 | 1.00 | 1.89 | 17.8 % | 17.8 % | .208 | 1.63 | .212 | 83.9 % | 4.74 | 6.94 | -2.20 | 6.10 |
There's the full table, sorted by FIP (though you can click the link to play around with it and see batted ball data and other info), suggests that the five deadliest arms against right-handed hitters since 2009 include Peter Moylan, Jason Isringhausen, Taylor Buchholz, Chad Qualls, and Todd Coffey. However a quick look at the innings totals of that group shows that it's far from a reliable one.
Only Coffey and Qualls have consistently provided innings for their teams in that time, and one of those seasons was a nightmarish 2010 campaign for Qualls in which he posted a 7.32 ERA. Peripheral stats and sabermetrics will tell a different tale (hence the strong FIP), but those certainly haven't been embraced with open arms by the Twins' front office.
Michael Wuertz generates the most strikeouts of the group, fanning a scintillating 27.6% of the righties he faces and checking in with a 3.36 FIP, but he's had health problems of his own. He's a Minnesota native, hailing from Austin, but a look at his Baseball Prospectus profile shows that he's taken three trips to the 15-day DL since 2010 and has missed a combined 90 games since Opening Day that season.
David Aardsma has whiffed righties with the best of them, but Tommy John surgery last July will have him shelved for the majority of the 2012 season; he might contribute two months down the stretch.
If you switch over to see how that group fares against left-handed pitching, well, don't get your hopes up. Wuertz leads the pack with a K% of 26.9 and a 4.06 FIP, while Qualls (14.3% and 4.39) and Coffey (16.2% and 4.74) are probably the next best options overall.
If the Twins truly are keeping the door on guys like Coffey and Dan Wheeler open, as Phil Mackey suggested after the Zumaya signing, they're looking in the right place. Those two, along with Qualls, seem to represent the best mix of durability and success against right-handed hitters. A name like Wuertz may possess more upside, but at some point, you have to be able to simply depend on the fact that you'll have someone to take the ball. If the Twins were to sign one of Coffey/Qualls and then add Wuertz as well, I'd be on board with that. But with one upside signing in the books, the emphasis needs to be not only on that upside, but reliability. Another season of seeing Alex Burnett work the eighth inning isn't exactly appealing.
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Pat Neshek!
Make it happen, Terry Ryan! Bring Pat home!
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Tell Gardy there's nobody around to protect him now." Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions
Pat Neshek
I agree, Bring him back home. It was dumb to let him go or trade or what ever happened.
I'm so for that!
I was so happy when in MLB2K11 they still had Neshek as a Twins player. I may or may not have him pitch in almost every game…
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by twinsgirl197 on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Prospects
I really think that bullpens should largely be filled with prospects. Reasons
1) Prospects cost $400k. Experience costs money.
2) Most relievers don’t add as much value (WAR, or whateveR) as other positions
3) Pitchers need chances to see MLB action to develop, and teams need chances to see them against MLB hitters. It’s a good way to test the water
4) Most relievers are failed starters. Most guys who can’t start, can’t start because they aren’t as good the second time through the order. Relievers don’t have that option
5) Moving AAAA type starters to the major league level helps clear log jams in the minors, so higher ceiling guys can’t test out higher level hitters
6) It worked really well for the Twins in the past, when many of their minor league starters got test runs as relievers, and some of them stayed there. The good twins teams of the last 10 years spent very little money on their relievers, other than Nathan.
7) A lot of players look good, only for a while, as relievers, and then fade, and a rotating set of cheap minor league pitchers often gets you some good innings until then, for cheap.
Relievers pitching 50-80 innings just aren’t that valuable compared to starters and to everyday players. I wouldn’t waste money there, unless you think you have a really good fit.
by snolls on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The opposite view
1) Relievers in the article only cost about $1M. Paying $500k for some degree of certainty that you won’t see a 7 ERA is worth every penny
2) Not sure this helps prospects or veterans, they both suffer equally. I will say that relief innings are highly leveraged.
3) That’s what injury callups are for
4) Not sure how this helps prospects either
5) Hurting the major league team to help out the minors is ass-backwards
6) This is the ideal scenario but I don’t think the Twins have the arms. Also, you don’t want every slot filled by rookies.
7) That’s a reason to not pay as much, not a reason to avoid veterans. Some prospects don’t ever look good.
Snolls' analysis is too simplistic
The big hole in snolls’ analysis is the way bullpens work as a whole. Bullpens stand and fall as a group. Anyone paying attention the last two seasons would have seen how the bullpen had periods of stability where everyone was able to play a role and no one was overworked. It also had periods where everyone was overworked and guys were used outside of their roles.
In the former state, the bullpen dominated. In the latter, not so much. The second biggest loss this team suffered between 2010 and 2011 were the veteran bullpen arms who stabilized the pen in time of distress. In 2011, the whole thing came crashing down like a house of cards because of the relative inexperience of the bullpen arms.
Here’s a hypothetical case: Two short starts in one week strains the middle guys, which strains the setup guys, which ultimately results in blown leads. If you look at guys individually, they don’t seem to provide much value from a WAR perspective, but collectively, the bullpen provides huge value. The bullpen is the only place where what you do in one game affects what you do in the next. Another place where this is made manifest is when pitching changes are made in the middle of innings. A guy could intentionally walk someone, get replaced, and give up a run by having his bullpen mate give up a homer.
When the Twins were going good in the ’00s, they would develop one or two arms a year while retaining mostly experienced guys. When they tried to bring too many young arms along at once, they were horrible. 2011 is the paradigm case of this.
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by cmathewson on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even when they were horrible last season they developed 2 guys
I think Perkins and Swarzak proved they can hack it in a major league bullpen. You just can’t count on developing more than 2 of those guys a year.
Swarzak
I dont think he proved much beyond being a AAAA type player. He can pitch a few innings and spot start but lots of guys can fill that role. I would say only Perkins emerged last year. Swarzak showed he is capable of being expendable.
by clutterheart on Jan 17, 2012 6:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
really?
I see him as a better Guerrier at least; a guy that can be a very effective, cheap long man for us for a long time. And a guy that can still spot start here and there when needed. Upside is still more than that too.
Guerrier
Better than Guerrier? In my mind, you are really underrating Guerrier. He was a quality bullpen arm for many years.
Tough to compare Guerrier and Swarzak stats wise, but Guerrier seems to strike out batters at a better rate and which allowed him to become a Solid RH set-up option. Maybe Swarzak can do that, but right now he just is not getting enough SOs to give me hope.
But I compared their Minor Leauge Stats and Swarzak has a tad better SO rate than Guerrier did. So maybe you are right. Time will tell.
by clutterheart on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not underrating Guerrier...
he was very solid in his long relief role. I think Swarzak can be the same, if not better. he’s got better stuff than Guerrier IMO, especially in a relief role. And remember, Guerrier improved (as most pitchers do) over time. Swarzak should do the same.
Wow, harsh
There were weeks when he was the only dependable starter beyond Pavano.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
So was Diamond
In late August and early Sept. Lots of guys can play that role for a few weeks. For Swarzak to emerge he needs to graduate from Long-Man to an option for the 6th / 7th innings. I am not asking for him to be a stopper but I would rather have a guy who gets SO at that position
by clutterheart on Jan 17, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Swarzak was considerably better than Diamond
Swarzak: 102 ERA+, 1.34 WHIP, 2.12 SO/BB
Diamond: 80 ERA+, 1.74 WHIP, 1.12 SO/BB
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
rec's
simply for the use of the metric whateveR
by That'sWhatSheSaid on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Cost effective
The other thing about inexpensive veteran relievers (Qualls, Wheeler, Wuertz or Coffey) is that they can be easily moved at the deadline. If they sign a 1.0-1.5 million dollar contract and pitch a reputable first half Ryan could spin them to a contender for a prospect or two. This is an even better situation if other guys (Velasquez, Oliveros, Gutierrez, Swarzak) could prove they can be decent BP options.
In response to all of the above
I guess my question is how reliable do you think the arms listed above are, for $1m, and what do you expect from the minor leaguers.
I’d say that most of the guys on the list above should be expected to produce an ERA of 3.5.
I’d expect something relatively similar from a handful of prospects, given 50+ IP as relievers (Swarzak, Hendricks, Manship, Oliveros, Robertson, Waldrop, Slama, Devries). Plus, I think there is inherent value in getting these guys exposure to MLB hitting through a toe-in-the-water approach.
I’m not saying it’s the only opinion to have, but I’m basically saying that experienced relievers aren’t that much more valuable, unless they’re really good, in which case they’re expensive.
I have no expectations that prospects can put up a 3.5 ERA
Look at Alex Burnett – ERA near 5.5. If those guys were better than Burnett last year, why weren’t they up with the big league club?
well, there is the Gardy/Rick argument...
I’d argue a few of our guys should have been up last year that weren’t. But those 2 like to play favorites.
Bullpen
We definately need a right hander we can count on for a solid 50 innings of bullpen depth. This time of the off season should lead to a small outlay of resourses, and fortunately there are plenty of quality reliever’s still available. I like any of;
Qualls
Wheeler
Coffey
Isringhausen
and even a Buchholz.
Coffey seems to make so much sense. Hopefully he can be healthy and get signed for 1.5m or so.
Twins seem to like Qualls
They have pursued him in the past. He seems to be a good fit.
totally on board with him or Wheeler...
I think that would complete the pen for the year, because I fully expect 2 out of the rest (Gutierrez/Guerra/Oliveros, etc.) to step up by the end of the season. And it also makes sense to not tie ourselves into any multi-year deals with the bevy of bullpen arms that are almost ready. A pen of:
Capps (hate him)
Perkins
Zumaya
Duensing
Wheeler
Swarzak
one other from about 15 names
looks pretty darn good to me.
I also still wish...
we could just trade Blackburn for a decent relief pitcher and sign Oswalt. I’m not that high on Oswalt, but at least we have okay insurance in Hendriks/Swarzak to step in for a few starts if/when needed.
Liriano (expect a bounce back in a big way), Baker (ditto), Oswalt, Pavano, Marquis is a solid 5-some with a good pen. That would have us well on our way.
Offensively it’s all about health for Morneau and Span (Mauer’s a given) and how quickly Benson/Parmelee can help. IMO.
not sure about Benson/Parmelee
First, they don’t have a position. Second, they should spend 2012 at AA.
I think we should be hoping Span can teach Revere how to draw a walk. That would go a long way for the offense.
I don't think you're well informed about Benson/Parmelee
Parmelee plays 1B. Benson can play any OF position but is probably RF at Target Field. Both guys have already spent more than one season at AA.
Yes
Plus, word is they would have been moved up to AAA in the middle of 2012 if the organization had much faith in the coaching staff at Rochester (which it fired after the season). The organization wanted to keep them at AA longer than normal so they could continue to work with Tom Brunansky.
So they are much closer to being ready than most AA prospects. I think they proved that in September. Though Benson struggled initially, he did much better in the second half of the month. And Parmelee exceeding anyone’s wildest dreams. I look for Parmelee to start the season in the big leagues as part of the 1B/DH rotation with Morneau and Doumit. I look for Benson to start at AAA for much of the year and potentially help out after the break.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
I also don't agree that "they don't have a position"...
Morneau is a HUGE risk right now; we just don’t know about him yet, sadly.
And Revere is almost assuredly not as good of a long-term answer in the OF as Benson. Not to mention Span’s own health issues going into this year.
There should be ample opportunity for both this season, and soon.
Qualls
He must be asking a lot. I am suprised he has not signed. I would hope the Twins sign him
by clutterheart on Jan 17, 2012 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Great work
Love this kind of stuff.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Well, the AL central got marginally easier today with the sad news that Victor Martinez tore his ACL during workouts.
Let loose the hogs of war!
Dogs of war..
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana...
certainly a big blow.
i still think this division can be won.
So they now are down two big bats in the middle
Plus their bullpen is thinning and they have Delmon Young. They are beatable, if we are willing to make a couple of more moves (cough Oswalt cough Quals).
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot
Oswalt puts them over budget unless they can find a place for Blackburn
There is room for Qualls and a cheap DH.
I want Coffey!
He sprints to the mount when entering the game.
If that isn’t grit and hustle, I don’t know what is!
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by twinscrazy_german on Jan 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
if only he slid like that one guy in the ASG...
I can’t remember who it was for the life of me but I’m also sitting in a hospital with crappy wifi so I could look it up but it’d take a while
"The problem with baseball is that it is not played year round" -Gaylord Perry
by twinsgirl197 on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha yes, I'm ashamed for not remembering that
"The problem with baseball is that it is not played year round" -Gaylord Perry
by twinsgirl197 on Jan 18, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Why are you in the hospital?
Another basketball related collision?
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Tell Gardy there's nobody around to protect him now." Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
haha no,
My brother had appendicitis, got his appendix removed, and then had a reaction to the anesthesia so I’ve spent from 4:30am monday until I don’t know when between the hospital and a hotel both with crap for wifi
"The problem with baseball is that it is not played year round" -Gaylord Perry
by twinsgirl197 on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Slowey took the opposite approach
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
"Tell Gardy there's nobody around to protect him now." Ozzie Guillen
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 18, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions

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