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Twins clubhouse leader revisited


I was never a pro athlete that was paid to do a job that i love(not even close), but i played sports in high school. I have had the benefit of being a small part of a state champion wrestling team and the misfortune of playing for a terrible baseball team in high school.
On our wrestling team, we may have looked up to our state champions for motivation to be the best, but we all had our own motivation for success or we wouldn't have made the team. If you can't get up for a match, why wrestle?

As for my baseball team, we had 1 good player and it wasn't me. He knew our team sucked and he gave up trying to motivate anyone. People didn't look up to him for encouragement, they weren't committed enough to care. We played some good games and those were the games that we stayed competitive. In those games, people tried harder, had less errors, and played with more self induced pride as the game went on. In bad games, the more out of it you got, the worse people played. Momentum in sports is a direct result of competitive drive. The more quality players you have, the more capable of positive momentum shifts. Our 1 guy just couldn't get it done alone.

I would think that if you are getting paid to play baseball, especially if you still enjoy it, you would be able to self motivate for individual performance from game to game. Everyone knows that you have those "confidence building" athletes who you just expect to succeed in the clutch and when they do, it drives you to somehow concentrate harder and play better for a brief time. Some people, the best, almost always play their best despite their team's play. Like Joe Mauer.

In conclusion, I think that the "leader on the field" can change from game to game, even inning to inning, but the "leader in the clubhouse" should be your best everyday player. IMO It should be Joe Mauer. He is our best and highest paid player.

Poll
Who will be the clubhouse leader for the twins this year?
1. Joe mauer
30 votes
2.Justin Morneau
22 votes
3. Someone else
33 votes

85 votes | Poll has closed

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With the loss of Cuddyer there is definatly the figure head leader missing

But I dont know if they really need someone to be that all encompassing guy. It seems to me the clubhouse leader doesnt really do that much besides get on rookies for mis behaving or other players for not acting up to par and set the clubhouse demeanor. They have Pavano, Span, Mauer, Morneau, and the new vets in Willingham and Carroll that should do a fine job of filling Cuddyers shoes in actually accomplishing the task but in a less vocal and public manner. Cuddyer got tagged with the super duper leader guy tag because he was the one to always talk to the media and publicly spread the “twins way”, as good a guy he is and as nice as it was to have him here I think what he actually added to the team in the leadership department was way overblown. Thats not a knock on him it was just a great media talking point.

first-worst-first?

by holymackerel on Jan 4, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Figurehead leaders are overrated

They’re mostly media inventions. Hunter and Santana were figurehead leaders. They were primarily interested in looking out for number 1. Everything else was an act. The best way to increase your contract value off the field is to be fun loving and gregarious when reporters are around. Remember the saying: There’s no I in team, but there are two I’s in Torii.

Real leaders lead on the field by working the hardest and helping their teammates succeed. We have a lot of those guys.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

The people who talk about needing someone to step up and be a leader are the same people who think Mauer and Morneau should just toughen up and play through injuries. -It’s all thoughtless, meathead analysis to me.

by Flip27 on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't believe in a team leader?

You should google Dan Gable and read about his success as an athlete and as a coach. Good teams have a guy or two who set the tone.

by chatter on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe in team leaders...

…when they primarily lead by example and provide words of encouragement. Guys who grandstand and criticize through the media are not real team leaders. The guys identified by the media as team leaders have often not been the real team leaders.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree 100%

You’re right about that. That was well said.

by chatter on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Two guys.

Jamey Carroll and Carl Pavano

by mak07 on Jan 6, 2012 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

I heard a college football coach on the radio the other day

He said he’d asked other coaches, famous for motivating players, what their secret was. Those coaches told him the secret was recruiting players who motivated themselves.

Now, college football needs to be consigned to the deepest level of Hell, but it sounds like these guys knew what they were talking about, and it’s a lot like your post. Although we should never forget how Morneau responded after Gardy took him aside and told him he was wasting his talent by partying (read: drinking with buddies) too much. That seemed to work better than Torii Hunter missing a punch . . .

Steve Goodman lives.

by twinsbrewer on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

We all are aware that the need for a “clubhouse leader” is ridiculous, right?

by Brady Eyestone on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

Depends on what you mean

If you mean a rah rah grandstander, then yeah. If you mean helping young kids make the transition from the minors, then no.

Peers leadership is essential in every organization because management carries the stigma of performance evaluation, which places a damper on disclosure. I.e. Guys don’t like to tell management they’re having problems because it might reflect badly on their reviews.

In this case, it’s warranted because this manager is fond of benching guys if they don’t appear to make seamless transitions to the majors. That’s where veteran leadership is needed to help guys work through stuff without getting benched for disclosing it.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

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