AL Central: Chicago
The White Sox were fairly quiet this off-season, at least compared with Ken Williams' typical winter. That is not necessarily a bad thing. My feeling about Williams is he often gives up too much young talent to get guys who are on the bad side of the age/performance bell curve. We need look no further than last winter for good examples of this. The White Sox won 99 games and the World Series in 2005. In 2006, they failed to make the playoffs as a result of Williams' deals.
Last year, the White Sox made a big splash by trading their very popular and solid center fielder Aaron Rowand, along with two top pitching prospects, to the Phillies for Jim Thome. I was alone in saying it was not a very good deal for the Pale Hosers. Though I expected it to create more runs for the Sox, I predicted that the Sox would be weak in outfield defense and would give up more runs. I expected their Pythagorean to actually go down as a result of the deal.
Not to gloat, but I was right. Though Brian Anderson was better defensively than I expected, his awful bat early forced Ozzie Guillen to play Rob Machowiak in center more often than he should have. He should not have played him at all out there, really. To put it in perspective, imagine going from Torii Hunter to Nick Punto in center field. In the two games in which the Twins used Punto in center in 2005, it resulted in five runs allowed more than it would have with a good glove man out there, such as Lew Ford. Anyway, the trade was a net loss for the Whities in the short term, and the two prospects they lost caused ripple effects into this offseason that we will talk about below.
The other trade I was fond of as a Twins fan but my White Sox-loving friends hated was the Javier Vazquez trade. The White Sox had a pitcher in Brandon McCarthy who was ready to take the next step. Instead of trusting his young arm, Williams sent a lot of talent to Arizona for a guy with a checkered past and a questionable future. To compound the loss of Rowand, he sent the best center field prospect in the game in Chris Young along with a couple of pitchers to get Vazquez.
Vazquez actually pitched better than I expected, with more than 200 innings. But he had trouble getting out of the sixth in almost every game and ended with an 11-12 record and a 4.84 ERA. Those numbers don't mean much I know, but for a ground ball pitcher who gave up a respectable 23 HRs and 56 walks while striking out 184 batters on a team that scored a lot, the won-loss and ERA numbers are actually better than they would be for most other pitchers.
To compound things, Williams actually signed Vazquez to a three-year extension this offseason. And he traded McCarthy and his best starter from last year--Freddy Garcia. Still, he bucked the trends somewhat from past offseasons by acquiring young arms in the process. Some of that was necessary because, after giving up 20 top prospects for aging veterans since 2000, Williams needed to replenish his system. But it doesn't help the team in 2007 to lose Garcia's 216 quality innings without a known entity to replace him.
Williams did fix the center field problem, to some extent, by signing Derin Erstad to platoon with Anderson. Erstad will not hit like Machowiack, but he will catch the ball. The big rumor now is that Williams will go out and re-acquire Rowand. To me, all the deals Williams has done this winter are an acknowledgment that last winter was not good. The result is a White Sox team that looks much like last year's model without its best starter. So I don't expect great things from it. They will be dangerous and fun to boo as usual. But I predict they finish fourth in the division.
Starters
The White Sox rotation is aging and vulnerable. Mark Buehrle is a shell of the pitcher he once was. He's never been a big strikeout pitcher, but prior to last year, he kept the ball in the park. The 36 HRs allowed help to explain his 4.99 ERA. Jose Contreras, is probably the ace of this staff. But his numbers are nothing to write home about either, and he is not getting any younger. John Garland is a solid pitcher who is one of four pitchers to give the White Sox 200 innings. But none of them will have an ERA under 4. The fourth is Vazquez. The fifth starter will likely be lefty John Danks, whom Williams acquired from the Rangers for McCarthy. He actually could be the X factor for the Hosers. But he will likely have his share of adjustments as a rookie.
Bullpen
Williams added some depth to the bullpen with the likes of Andy Sisco. But the closer position is a big question mark with the injury to Bobby Jenks. The two guys who will likely share the closer role until Jenks comes back are hard throwers Mike McDougal and Matt Thornton. Other arms are David Riske and Dustin Hermanson. I see more question marks out in the bullpen in Chicago than any other year since the early oughts.
Line-up
For all the talk of manufacturing runs, the White Sox are the same as they ever were: swing for the fences and hope for the best. Still, they do have guys who can hit it over the fence (Dye, Thome, Konerko, and Crede) so they are always dangerous. But if your pitcher can keep it in the park, the Hosers will not score all that often. Even AJ Pierzinski, who epitomized the Twins' high-contact philosophy when he played for the good guys, has turned into the all-or-nothing hitter he was in batting practice in the Dome.
The key to consistent run scoring in Chicago will rest with the table setters: Scott Podsednik and Tad Iguchi. Podsednik seems to alternate good years with bad, so he's due for a down year. But Iguchi is solid. If Ozzie uses Erstad often at the top of the order, I don't like the White Sox chances.
All in all, I project the Whities to have a respectable but slightly worse season this year. Something like 86-76 should be good for fourth place in the division.
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Keep in mind that the Sox dismantled in August and were also 10 games in front of the Twins along with Detroit in July. The Sox just couldn't click on all cylinders juggling rotation issues with Jim Thome's health down the stretch. I think it's a hard sell to pin that on Kenny Williams' off-season because up until July those predictions looked dead wrong.
by TheMattWilke on Mar 17, 2007 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs
The Sox had a great defense...
by ubelmann on
Mar 17, 2007 9:06 PM EDT
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You said it yourself, that the pitching staff outperformed their averages in 2005. I think it's a simpler explanation that they just came back to their mean and out didn't pitch as well than pinning the Thome and Vazquez deals on their decline.
The absence of Rowand was a factor, but I watched more White Sox games on TV last year than Twins games (unfortunately). It was a demoralized team after the All-Star break. After the Twins swept them in July they spiraled. I think Ozzie Guillen's ongoing BS with the press and constantly calling players out in the media had more to do with their underperformance than Kenny Williams' offseason.
by TheMattWilke on
Mar 18, 2007 2:54 PM EDT
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by djskilbr on
Mar 18, 2007 3:20 PM EDT
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by ubelmann on
Mar 18, 2007 3:38 PM EDT
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Finding nine wins
Going from Rowand to Anderson is like going from a healthy Hunter to Lew Ford in center. So there was some drop off, especially on fundamentals. Rowand is a very good and underrated center fielder. He made his pitchers look better than they were. Anderson exposed them.
Then add the 182 plate appearances of Machowiak, which is like going from a healthy Hunter to Nick Punto for about 45 games. Between Anderson's drop off and Machowiak's plunge, it's not out of the question to get a few one-run games that would have been wins with better center field play.
People forget that between Everett and Frank Thomas, the White Sox got 35 HRs and 113 RBI in 2005. Thome gave them 42 HRs and 109 RBI. We're not talking about that much more production there. The big difference is on OBP and how it affected runs scored. Thome scored 108 runs whereas Everett and Thomas scored a mere 77 runs.
It's tough to quantify center field defense, which is one reason why it's so underrated. I can't prove this, but I think it's the main reason why the fly ball pitchers on the Sox staff had major declines last year. Balancing the two out, I still say the White Sox were hurt more by center field defense than they were helped by DH offense. They actually got a bigger offensive surge from Dye than adding Thome. It's kind of amazing that career years from Dye, Thome and Crede were not enough to overcome the defensive struggles the team had.
The pitchers also contributed to the Sox decline. But the only defensive change in the roster was center field. And that contributed to the pitchers' decline more than any single factor.
by cmathewson on
Mar 18, 2007 3:35 PM EDT
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There's no doubt that they downgraded at defense in CF which is the 3rd most important defensive position on the field behind catcher and short stop. But they still had an outstanding defense in the infield which should have led to another good year for Buerhle, Garland, and Contreras at the very least had they pitched well. But the pitchers didn't deliver.
by TheMattWilke on
Mar 18, 2007 4:04 PM EDT
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There's no doubt in my mind that Crede is very good (though not the best defensive 3B in the AL) and that Uribe is very good, but Iguchi is nothing special (and there's at least some evidence that he's reasonably below average) and Konerko is bad. That doesn't add up to an outstanding infield defense from where I sit--more like half of an outstanding infield defense and half of a meh infield defense.
by ubelmann on
Mar 18, 2007 5:06 PM EDT
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by AdamOnFirst on
Mar 18, 2007 5:21 PM EDT
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Uribe's legal issues...
by ubelmann on
Mar 18, 2007 5:31 PM EDT
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You could be correct about Iguchi, I might just be conditioned to think he's good defensively because they always used to show a commercial of him making a perfect throw where he's airborn and his legs are above his head.
Konerko can pick it, but I hate he holds runners on all wrong. It makes no sense to me that he's been doing it that way for so long and no one has corrected him.
by TheMattWilke on
Mar 18, 2007 7:15 PM EDT
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My AL defensive 3B rankings
- Brandon Inge--a rare combination of good reactions and range
- Adrian Beltre--He's a marginal hitter, but a stellar fielder; and that arm....
- Eric Chavez--Nobody has better hands.
- Joe Crede--He's just solid at everything.
- Nick Punto--His marginal bat will always mean he's underrated defensively. But nobody has more range.
- Chone Figgins--Probably won't play there this year, but if he does, see number 5. If Quinlan plays there, I'm bunting.
- Mike Lowell--He's not flashy. But he reminds me of Gaetti (at 39).
- Melvin Mora--Once he learned the position, he stopped making major mistakes.
- Troy Glaus--I always liked his reactions. He has little range, but he's great on hard-hit balls.
- Iwamura--Has great scouting reports from Japan.
- Alex Rodriguez--His offense is great.
- Hank Blalock--Could have been a gold glover if he came up with the Twins.
- Marte--He's got potential.
- Gordon--This guy will be better than Teahan.
by cmathewson on
Mar 18, 2007 7:36 PM EDT
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The Cheat had an interesting look at Crede a while ago, too, that makes it look like perhaps he's either not that good on balls to his right, or that he tends to be positioned pretty far off the line.
by ubelmann on
Mar 18, 2007 8:30 PM EDT
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I saw a lot of Beltre with the Dodgers out here...
I think he's in that next mix though. For my money, Chavez is still the best in the AL. Just amazingly consistent and good at everything. Inge would probably be next, and then the mix of Beltre/Crede/Punto.
The NL has the best defensive 3b since Brooks Robinson in my mind though, and no, I'm not talking about Scott Rolen; I think Ryan Zimmerman is just THAT good. Rolen is the #2 defensive 3b in baseball to me, and then David Wright is also right in the mix with Chavez. Quite the crop of talent over there.
by djskilbr on
Mar 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT
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by roger on Mar 17, 2007 8:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Thanks Roger
That's another difference between the two systems. Ryan would never keep a rookie in the big leagues longer than six weeks if he's really struggling (e.g. Bartlett of '05) like Anderson was in the early goings. I think he started something like 2 for 40. Given that, it's amazing he managed to crack .200 last year. To the White Sox's credit, they stuck with Anderson and he eventually did come around. Of course, they really didn't have any choice because they traded away all their other center fielders above Low A ball.
by cmathewson on
Mar 17, 2007 9:06 PM EDT
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But I agree they aren't all that good. Their decision to deal McCarthy was puzzling. Two years ago was a fluke. Their entire pitching staff was and is built on mediocrity and they all had simultaneous career years. That just doesn't happen to teams even once, much less twice.
by AdamOnFirst on Mar 17, 2007 8:34 PM EDT 0 recs
I think Danks...
by ubelmann on
Mar 17, 2007 9:18 PM EDT
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The other big key is that I really think Thome's going to get hurt bad again and miss a big chunk of the year.
One thing that I'll be keeping my eye on is what they do with Josh Fields. I tend to think that as long as Crede doesn't get hurt, they'll have him play some LF for Podsednik (who I also predict to struggle) for the year. And that could help. But ya, just too many holes.
Oh, and ubelmann, I also think Danks has a chance to be really good, but not until at least 2008 and the Sox don't worry me in the slightest in 2008 and beyond with the team we should have.
by djskilbr on Mar 18, 2007 4:42 AM EDT 0 recs











