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Your 2008 MN Twins

So far, Bill Smith has done a great job at the wheel.  He went out and traded for Delmon Young, (traded a great Major League ready pitcher, but that is the price of great hitters) Brendan Harris, (traded our starting SS for him, but Harris has better power and about the same avg with a worse glove) Jason Pridie, (traded a mid-level prospect for this one which has not broken my heart), then he signed out of free agency Adam Everett (a gold glove SS who will more than replace Bartlett in the field but not at the plate) and Mike Lamb (our new starting 3B who I have been wanting for some time now).  

Bill Smith has lost in all of this:  Matt Garza, Jason Bartlett, Eduardo Morlan, Torii Hunter, Carlos Silva, Jason Tyner, Lew Ford, Matt Lecroy, Luis Rodriguez, Chris Heintz, Josh Rabe, and Chris Basak.  The only good ones out of that bunch were: Torii Hunter, Carlos Silva, Matt Garza, and Jason Bartlett.  Bill Smith has revolutionized the Twins with new young talent along with veterans(Everett and Lamb) who have been in the Major Leagues for some time.  We lose L-Rod (no tears), Heintz (definately no tears), Rabe (no tears), Ford (no tears), Lecroy (teary eyed simply because he is a fan favorite), and Tyner (a few tears).  Adequately replacing those players will be Young, Pridie, Harris, Everett, and Lamb.

We lose a good starting pitcher in the trade with Tampa for Young, but last year did we lose more on account of our pitching or run support?  Silva lost three one run games to the ChiSox 3-2, 2-1, and 1-0 because our awful run producing team could not score.  If Hunter would have only signed a three year deal with us now, there would be no doubt in my mind that we would go to the AL Championship.  Now it appears that Johan Santana will not be traded and so are we going to give him a four year 25 million dollar contract with options or will we try to trade him at the All-star break?  My hope is for a four year contract, even though Santana wants 7 years 140 million dollar contract, my hope is that by offering him 25 million per year he will remain with the Twins.

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Our rotation will consist of those pitchers who were considered in TR's mind as unproven and not ready for the pace of the Major league game.  If we retain Santana, I see our rotation shaping out like this:  Santana-Ace; Baker-#2; Liriano-#3 (by May); Slowey-#4; Perkins/Bonser/Blackburn-#5.  Not a bad rotation all things considered.  Santana can put up at least 16 wins again and now with our offense probably go back to 20-20+ Wins.  Baker can put up 12-15 wins; Liriano (if he returns as the 2006 man who we all loved to watch) can win 19-21 games; Slowey can win 11 games; Perkins/Boof/Blackburn can win 12 games between them I think.

Our Bullpen will trot out the same people as last year with Nathan-CL; Neshek-Setup; Guerrier - Setup; Bonser/Blackburn - Long man ; Perkins/Reyes - LH specialist; Rincon-will he still be around?  If I have forgot any of our great bullpen men, let me know...

In the field you have:
Morneau playing first-A D, A+ offense;
Harris playing second - D D, B offense;
Punto playing second - A+ D, D- O;
Casilla playing second - B+ D, B O;
Everett playing SS - A++ D, C- O;
Lamb playing 3B - B- D, A- O;
Cuddyer playing LF - A D, A+ arm, A O;
Pridie/? playing CF - ? D, ? arm, ? O;
Young playing RF - A D, A+ arm, A O;
Mauer catching - A+ D, A+ arm, A O;
Kubel DHing - A- D, B arm, A O;
Monroe DHing - B D, C+ arm, B+ O;
Redmond backup Catcher - A+ D, B+ arm, A O.

So if we have a starting field along the lines of this:
Morneau playing first-A D, A+ offense;
Harris playing second - D D, B offense;
Everett playing SS - A++ D, C- O;
Lamb playing 3B - B- D, A- O;
Cuddyer playing LF - A D, A+ arm, A O;
Pridie/? playing CF - ? D, ? arm, ? O;
Young playing RF - A D, A+ arm, A O;
Mauer catching - A+ D, A+ arm, A O;
Kubel DHing - A- D, B arm, A O;

Our Defense and Offense look pretty good from where I am sitting with those starting 9...

So, the Opening Day Lineup should look something like this:

Harris - 2B
Kubel - DH
Mauer - C
Young - RF/LF
Morneau- 1B
Cuddyer - LF/RF
Lamb - 3B
Everett - SS
Pridie - CF

Santana
Baker
Liriano
Slowey
Perkins/Boof/Blackburn

I dont know folks...that looks like a pretty good rotation and lineup that can compete in the AL Central...if we could only get Cameron or somebody who is proven in CF and with HR power, that would be a playoff contender.

Poll
How many approximate runs will this lineup put up?
601
4 votes
1045
1 votes
718 (same as last year)
11 votes
992
8 votes
812
47 votes

71 votes | Poll has closed

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your ratings
are extremely....homerish.

by TMoney on Jan 3, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It may not be springtime yet,
But at least no one can accuse you of not being optimistic.

by montanatwinsfan on Jan 3, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Right Now
Right now, I am very optimistic...if we could only acquire Mike Cameron now and retain Santana, I would be happy about this upcoming season.

by 33MorneauMVP on Jan 4, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure
about Cameron, but if the Twins were able to pick up some semblance of a starting center fielder to give Pridie a run for his money...I'd be happy too.  I still don't think the Twins are in a position to contend for the division crown, but they'd be a competetive team.

by Jesse on Jan 4, 2008 2:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CF options
I would be more excited about Cameron were it not for the suspension. Some have suggested Lofton, but he no longer has the range. Cory Patterson might be an option. You just have to wonder about the one-year fluke thing.

The Twins could probably get Coco Crisp for a couple of young arms such as Mullins and Sosa. If they were going to do that, why not just take the Sox offer with Crisp, Lester, Lowrie and Masterson? The main problem with Crisp is he is a stop-gap at best to fill a gap that exists longer than his contract (or useful life) extends.

I still think the best deal on the table is Ellsbury, Lowrie, Masterson and Kalish. It's possible the Mets will capitulate with Gomez, Fenandez, Pelfry and Humber, which would be the best deal. But it's not confirmed. I'm sure that's what Smith is waiting for.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 4, 2008 9:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just read
that the Twins weren't budging from requiring Jose Reyes to be part of a deal with the Mets.  Of course this was from a NY paper.

by Jesse on Jan 4, 2008 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I read the same thing. I just don't take the New York tabloids seriously.

If we examine the proposed Mets deal (using Seth's ranking), it's the best on the table, if it is on the table. Minaya has kept things closer to the vest than either Theophilus or Spanky. So the Twins would be foolish to walk away from the best deal just because it does not include Reyes.

Also, the Twins have their shortstop for 2008--Adam Everette. Why would they sign him and then insist on Reyes in any trade with the Mets?

All things considered, I would prefer to trade him to the NL. The thought of a five-game playoff series with the Sox and Johan, Beckett, Dice-K, Buchholz and back to Johan is not all that appealing to me. It's a little more palatable with Johan, Joba, Mussina, Kennedy and Johan. But the Yankees package is pretty weak compared to the others, again, relying on Seth's rankings.

"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 4, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we were to get Reyes...
...what do we do with Everett and his nearly $3.0mm?  Can't imagine he would be happy sittin on the bench?  

by roger on Jan 4, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You could play...
...Reyes or Everett at 2B for next season.  Harris and Lamb then share 3B and the 1B backup duties, while Punto is the backup middle infielder.

by ubelmann on Jan 4, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't do that
Everette is the best fielding shortstop in baseball, so he gets short. That leaves Reyes at second, which is an awful waste of talent for a second baseman. Presumably, the Twins would not get much more than Reyes in any trade. So we're trading Santana for a second baseman when we already have three (Harris, Casilla, and Punto). Granted Reyes is better than any of them by a long shot, but his presence doesn't help fill the hole in center or in the rotation.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 4, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You could
You could send Everett in the deal as a sweetener I guess...
Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Jan 5, 2008 5:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No you couldn't...
Everett can't be traded until May.

by ubelmann on Jan 5, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you really wanted to...
...I think you could make him a PTBNL, but I doubt the Mets would want Everett so badly that they'd be willing to settle for a stopgap solution for a month.

by ubelmann on Jan 7, 2008 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Scoff
Scoff, fine, it was just a thought...

*sulks away

Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Jan 6, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes at second...
...really isn't a waste.  He'd be a huge upgrade at that position, and it'd be for one year.  After that season, Reyes goes back to SS, and he'd be a huge upgrade over our other options for SS in 2009.  If we're trading Santana, next year really isn't the year we're worried about anyway.

by ubelmann on Jan 5, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ellsbury
crisp will give you a consistant .280-.300 and lights out defense. Ellsbury MAYBE gives you more. big key is MAYBE. lets get lester and coco and the sox will give lowrie,masterson and kalish too. I see this filling alot of holes quick and cheap. this is the only scenario where we would be getting into the postseason to be able to say "oh crap, Santana is going shut us down"

by realfan on Jan 5, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya CMath...
As great as Reyes is, I'd rather have the other trades for the reasons you mention alone.

by djskilbr on Jan 5, 2008 12:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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