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Bert Belongs

I know it.  You know it.  He knows it.  They should know it.

I want to be as objective as possible, which should almost go without saying since I don't really remember seeing Bert pitch.  Nevertheless I have a bias.  So instead of innundating all of you with subjective points that are vulnerable to argument, I want to point out some things about Bert Blyleven that can't be argued and support his long overdue bid for the Hall of Fame.  First, his career ranks.

Stat      Rank    Note
Wins      26th    Of the 25 pitchers ranked ahead of Blyleven, 20 are in the Hall of Fame.  Of the remaining five,
                  three are still active.  Only Bobby Matthews (297 wins) Tommy John (288) have more wins than Bert and
                  aren't in the Hall.  Seven of the next ten pitchers ranked behind Blyleven in wins are also in the
                  Hall of Fame.  Bert finished with 287 wins.

Innings   13th    Each of the twelve pitchers with more career innings pitched are in the Hall of Fame.  Just 30
                  innings shy of 5,000, Bert pitched for 22 seasons.  Three of the next six pitchers are also in the
                  Hall.  Of the three that are not, two are active.

Stikeouts  5th    Seven of the top ten career strikeout leaders are in the Hall.  Of the three that are not, Roger
                  Clemens and Randy Johnson are still active.  After Blyleven, the next inactive non-member on the all-
                  time strikeout leader board is Mickey Lolich, in 18th place.  Blyleven struck out 3,701 batters.

Starts    11th    Seven of ten pitchers ahead of Bert are members of the Hall of Fame.  Of the three that are not, two
                  are active (Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux) and the third is Tommy John.  Eight of eleven behind Blyleven
                  are in the hall; one is still active (Tom Glavine).  Bert started 685 games.

Shutouts   9th    All eight hurlers ahead of Blyleven are in the Hall.  So are the next thirteen behind him.  In his
                  career, Blyleven shut out his opponent 60 times.

Home Runs  8th    You might think this wouldn't be something to promote, but it is.  Of the seven men who allowed more
                  long balls than Bert, five are in the Hall of Fame.  Of the other two, one is still active.  Directly
                  behind Bert are Steve Carlton (Hall of Famer), David Wells (active) and Gaylord Perry (Hall of
                  Famer).  Blyleven allowed 430 home runs.

Losses    10th    Eight of the nine pitchers who lost more games than Bert are in the Hall of Fame.  So are four of the
                  five directly behind him.  Bert lost 250 games in his career.

Batters   13th    All twelve hurlers who faced more hitters than Blyleven are in the Hall of Fame.  In his career, Bert
                  faced 20,491 batters.

According to baseballreference.com, Bert's ten most accurate career comparibles are:

Don Sutton
Gaylord Perry
Fergie Jenkins
Tommy John
Robin Roberts
Tom Seaver
Jim Kaat
Early Wynn
Phil Niekro
Steve Carlton

  •  Tommy John and Jim Kaat, the only two on that list who are NOT members of the Hall of Fame, have impressive resumes and could easily have their own arguments for Hall membership.
  •  For the last fifteen years of Bert's career, the only two pitchers who appear on his "most similar by age" list are Don Drysdale and Don Sutton.  Both are in the Hall of Fame.
Common Traits "Sought" for in a Hall of Fame Pitcher

[x]  Longetivity      [x]  Stat Rankings Among the Best Ever      [x]  Post Season Winner

[?]  "Peak" Seasons   [ ]  Cy Young/MVP Winner                    [x]  "Workhorse"

Okay so that last bit is just a tad subjective, being I just made them up.  Would you argue any of those points?

On Tuesday, Bert Blyleven will once again have his career reviewed and judged, largely by those who have deemed him not worthy of baseball's exclusive club membership.  No matter what happens, he was one of the best ever to take the mound, and I believe he deserves a bust in Cooperstown.  Good luck, Bert.  My fingers are crossed that this time they get it right.

Check out THE site for Bert Belongs:  Bert Belongs!

Over at Taylor's Twins Talk, Taylor would have voted for Blyleven himself, but doesn't believe he'll attain membership in 2008.

Joe Christensen voted Bert.  He gets a cookie.

UPDATE: TwinkieTown favorite Seth breaks down Hall candidates in total...guess who's number one on his ballot.

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It's a mystery as to how he isn't in yet, not just because of the numbers, but because of the support.  For YEARS now, every year, at this time of year, writers, syndicated writers, writers with votes across the country pen articles like this explaining with befuddlement that Bleyleven is a clear hall of famer.  I've never read an article stating the contrary.

And yet, for 11 years, he's come up short.  I've got no idea how.  He's CLEARLY the biggest snub currently not in the hall.

Another interesting thought, does anyone think McGwire gets in this year?  Last year he didn't, but maybe a lot of writers just didn't want him in his first year.

We shall see...

Baseball is great because you cant take a knee or kill the clock. You gotta put the ball over the plate and give the other guy his damn shot E Weaver abridged

by AdamOnFirst on Jan 8, 2008 12:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

more backup stats
this is from dan perry of foxsports.com

same career park- and league-adjusted ERA as Warren Spahn, 2.47 career postseason ERA.

by doofus04 on Jan 8, 2008 10:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Blyleven should be in
There are no good arguments for omitting Blyleven.  He and Santo are the two biggest snubs.  Every time my fellow Tiger fans start pushing for Jack Morris, I tell them if Blyleven is not in there then we can't even talk about Morris.

Lee

by tiger337 on Jan 8, 2008 10:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

bert and jack
Speaking of Bert and Jack, if you didn't catch this post on firejoemorgan.com, check it out. Good times.

http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2007/12/jack-and-bert-and-hallway-where-famous.html

by cooldude on Jan 8, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks jesse
I really appreciate the time you take to put this stuff together for us.

I never knew for sure if Bert was worthy. Now I know that it isn't even close. I sure hope he gets it this year.

by montanatwinsfan on Jan 8, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unanimous vote?
Last time I checked, it was the first unanimous vote on the site.
"You're thinking too much. Just have fun." -- Bennie "The Jet" Rodriguez in Sandlot

by cmathewson on Jan 8, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

One has voted 'No' so far
I actually encourage anyone who thinks Bert doesn't belong to express their reasons why.  This shouldn't be a monologue...dialogues are much more fun.  It'd be interesting to hear why people don't think he belongs.

by Jesse on Jan 8, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Voting
14 folks voted over at MLB.com.

I'm hard-pressed to say that folks should vote all their votes, rather than just for 2-3 players, as some did on this site.

In some ways, it shows the stupidity of the working writers? Don't they research these guys?

"Goose" has a great nickname.......yep, makes me want to vote for him fer sure. I do think his record speaks better of him than just his nickname.

I can't see anyone voting for Morris and/or John and NOT voting for Blyleven. That's an explanation I need to read.

Anyway, gives a good idea of a cross ection of writers voting and it does make you shake your head at some of the choices (or lack of more choices).

Goose is probably in. Disappointed that raines may get a poor showing. Wonder if Markie will reach the minimum to stay around. Look for lots of folks to totally disappear.

And I got my fingers crossed for Bert!

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by twintown on Jan 8, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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